Yeah...I haven't been able to rep anyone in like 6 monthsOriginally Posted by DarthEnder
Yeah...I haven't been able to rep anyone in like 6 months
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I think Sai has alot more up his sleeve. That whole arc was an abortion from a battle standpoint. I don't think we'll really see what Sai can do till he goes one on one against an important enemy he's meant to have a typical shounen battle against.Because in the very sentence after you said that you saidSo you said "one of these guys will be wrong, and Krayz is gonna be pissed when it happens" your kinda telling us which one of them is gonna be wrong. Der.
For Christ's sake, leave it alone already. No matter whether you think you are right (or not), I already said that discussion is over. No need to try to wrangle responses from Kage anymore, or get the last word.
-Kraco
Last edited by Kraco; Tue, 09-30-2008 at 03:40 PM.
lol nvm... its done and done.
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Darth: I just hope he gets his chance to really go all out and test his limits. And not just be restrained to the support role his entire naruto career.
Last edited by Kagemane_no_Jutsu; Tue, 09-30-2008 at 08:46 PM.
Well, if that did happen, he'd be the first male major character to never get a 1 on 1 important battle at some point. The only major characters that never had important battles were Ino, Tenten and Hinata, who never had a "shounen showdown" outside of the Chuunin exam prelims.
God I miss the Chuunin exams. "Hey, we're gonna do 10 1v1 battles against people who you mostly never seen go "all out" before."
Those were great days.
Goddamn Naruto needs to take another chuunin exam and all the other genins need to be unknown character.(Actually, what would be hilarious is if Naruto ended up in the same Chuunin exam as Konohamaru.)
Sai? Really? I think that ship sailed when Kishi skipped on the chance for us to see Sai go one on one with Sasuke of all people. I don't think I would mind seeing a bit more of Sai but really we know what his fighting style is so what more is there to show. He draws stuff and it comes to life, sure there are seemingly limitless possibilities using a fighting style like that but really I'm just not interested.
I want to see more of your fundamental traditional ninja battles and there are so few of these already. This time around we have an immortal, before that we had yet another immortal in Oro fighting 4 tailed Naruto and before that we had a living puppet. I'm not knocking any of those battles, I'm just saying that that isn't what got me into Naruto. Fights like Kakashi vs Zabuza, Lee vs Gaara and Neji vs Naruto are what made this series and I just think its getting a bit too gimmicky. I mean Kakashi warping things in another dimension just by looking at them. Once he perfects a technique like that then those stare downs we're used to seeing will take on an entirely different role.
Anyway as for Sai, it doesn't seem like Kishi plans on doing anything with him, it seems as if he really just put him there to fill in for Sasuke. I'm sure we'll see more of Sai, if and when Kishi decides to elaborate more on Danzo. He randomly threw Danzo into the mix and created all this suspicion about his character and then left it at that.
Last edited by Abdula; Tue, 09-30-2008 at 11:34 PM.
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I agree with Abdula. I think nowadays they just want to make money and not really focus on making a quality show anymore. They know they have a hot commodity so they're going to ride the train for as long as they can and make as much as they can. Hopefully it gets better because i enjoy watching this show with my nephews a lot and they just dig anything thats naruto related
What are you guys talking about... We are in the midst of one of those "fundamental traditional ninja battles" right now. Sure it isn't 1v1 and neither was Sasori but they are still the fights I watch this show for.
That was an exceptionally dumb thing to say especially for a manga reader.
Not all ninja's are able to sense chakra, this isn't dragon ball Abdula.
Wow man just wow. If you didn't happen to notice the three pages of discussion after that post, including everyone agreeing that this was over then I really don't know what to say.
Anyway since you don't seem to know anything at all, I'll just say not everyone in DBZ was able to sense people either, its a skill and Vegeta for example had to learn how to do it. It being a skill just like being able to hide your presence, not everyone is going to be able to do it at the same level, just like everything else in Naruto. Not everyone in Naruto is just automatically able to use chakra either you know, they have to learn how to do that too and walk up walls and make seals.........
Way to ignore 3 pages of posts Archangel, besides I've already made my point. Now your post was an especially dumb thing to say, but I know how fond you are of making a fool of yourself. Some people
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
You're right, i didn't notice that everyone else had already told you how dumb you were, my bad.
I'm not even gonna comment on the rest of that post, it's just a bunch of random bs that tries to hide just how retarded that first post was.
My bad, by now I should really know better than to respond to what you post. I guess this lends some credence to the argument that just because you're a manga reader doesn't mean you know everything, or anything at all it seems.
Like I said its not about the fights themselves but the direction the show is going in. Its getting to the point where just being a good ninja isn't enough and you have to have some super ability or another just to be able to keep up. I guess thats not really a good explanation but I'm in a bit of a hurry so I'll talk more about it later.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
I know what you are talking about. And a sure sign of it was when watching the last two eps of School Rumble and witnessing a certain fist fight I found myself thinking Naruto and many other shounen fight animes could learn a lot from it. However, I suppose the whole thing could be more or less inevitable with the setting present in Naruto: Little realism and all manner of fancy techniques there simply to make characters appear different from each other and battles look more and more grand every time.
too bad the things we've seen Sai drawn are almost practically the same, if it isn't the tiger/lion thingies, it's the bird, mice or snakes. I want to see some new sstuff, that's why I'm glad there're new opponents, and in the form of Akatsuki too
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actually, its a good explanation..
If you are "only" as good as Zabuza, you'll sooner or later die, because of Naruto's kyuubi, Hidan's immortality, Sasuke's Sharingan etc. because they outmatch everything
Unfortunately that takes away from how bad ass a character Zabuza was.
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Ehh I dunno....
I would assume that Zabuza's skill level is comparable to Kisame's...since they were both part of the Mist 7.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
well, the point is, that even someone like as strong as him (who is one of the very few "real" ninjas I've seen in Naruto) wouldn't win against superpowers :/
to be honest, he...kakashi + haku were the reason I started to like naruto in the first place, I don't want to bring up that topic again, but the water country arc was the very best of naruto so far.
*cough* btw wasn't raiga one of the Mist 7 too? *cough*
Last edited by KrayZ33; Wed, 10-01-2008 at 06:08 PM.
bold for agreement.
back in the days, Kakashi used his sharingan as a trump card, something to give him the extra mile to win. nowadays, he shoots black wholes through the universe.
when Haku went used his special move, it was damn special, and that was above his regular skills as a ninja. the new generation ninjas don't even try to pretend they can do something, they go straight to the special attack trick.
things went downhill with the 'chase sasuke out of the bucket' arc, the sound 4 (mainly the girl and the two headed emo) had nothing other their power move.
as for mist-sword-ninjas... Zabuza, Kisame, the guy from the OVA, and i think someone from the filler zone. I don't think we saw any more of them.
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I think thats just the way the series has gone.
None of the old characters are comparable to the people they are fighting now, because Akatsuke is like a group of sannin-level ninjas. They're after Naruto, so everyone in the series either has to step up, or step out of the show, because that's who the villains are.
At first, I just assumed everyone of the genins would all end up super powerful and Shippuudden would be alot like the original series. With each of those characters having amazing new powers that got introduced as they got into battle. But now I'm starting to think that characters like Kiba and Chouji etc. are just going to end up left behind in the scope of the show. Naruto is moving on into this god-tier, and only those characters that can move up with him are going to continue to play a role in the series. Because that's who the enemies are.
If Akatsuki's formations were different, this might not be the case. As it is, they travel in pairs of god characters. If instead, each member of Akatsuke had their own squad of weaker ninjas, the show would have more room for more diverse battles. With characters like Naruto fighting the Akatsuke members, while less powerful characters could still have interesting, meaningful battles against the rest of his squad.
But that's apparently just not the case. Since all of Akatsuke is superpowerful, and the only 3 Sound ninjas left(as far as we can tell), are also all superpowereful.
So if you aren't superpowered, you ain't getting a battle in Shippuudden.I don't think they're even remotely comparable, because I have a strong suspicion that Kisame is a jinchuuriki(primarily, his monsterous appearance, and the fact that he seems to have nearly endless amounts of chakra).
oh, going down the bleach road? no thanks.
I try to imagine that couji died after fighting the fat dude, it makes things much better.
whenever some gets 'his' fight, I mark him down as dead, so the series keeps moving with a changing cast of 'fighting' characters, and some weaker 'support' troops to talk and prey out information. like in dragon ball Z, Goku, Vegita and Gohan would do the fighting, with the occasional Piccolo battle, and all the old fellows would just hang around at the background, cheering the good guys to fight on.
it's better than using them just to show that the bad guy is powerful (as in YYH, "OMG! he defeated Kurawabara, he ain't normal', thank you, detective deepshit).
the other way around it, of course, is for them to fight like ninjas, and have two or three teams gang up on a stronger enemy. team-work, careful planning, winning through brains and no with shonen heart. but fat chance for that happening.
anyways, it's better to let the old characters rest, and not push them into fights that don't make sense. I'm still angry over the Lee-Kimimaru fight.
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