Future of America

[itadakimasu]

So, this morning I was given a reminder of just how grim our future is in america.

I was leaving for work and there was a group of kids in the middle of the parking lot, i stopped as they very slowly got out of the middle of the road. the last and oldest of the bunch (12-13 years old tops.) very slowly moved, after looking and seeing my car.. i turned around him slightly and was looking in my rearview mirror only to see some probably 8 year old kid with his middle finger raised high in the air at me... i can understand if i'd honked my horn at them or something but i didn't...

This.... is our future. Very sad.. Living in a predominantly black area sometimes makes me feel like a racist since i get to see how uneducated and stupid alot of these people are that live near me..... and the sad new is, they're breeding.

[animus]

Well one thing's clear. You are a racist, since you're so inclined to relate something like the future of a country to a single scenario that happened.

[Buffalobiian]

Well one thing's clear. You are a racist, since you're so inclined to relate something like the future of a country to a single scenario that happened.

A country isn't a race.

Behaviour is definitely a problem, but since we're also talking about education, you can't help but notice the declining standards in education these days, and we're meant to be moving forwards...

[XanBcoo]

What's with the alarm bells? This kind of thing happens in every generation. Congrats man, you're getting old.

Also it's not a matter of being a black area, it's a matter of being a poor area. Unfortunately in many places in America, there's no difference between the two, but it doesn't have anything to do with race. Poor areas will always have more petty crime and more kids running around without proper parenting.

If this country's fucked, it's not because some black kid flicked you off. Calm down.

[Uchiha Barles]

What's with the alarm bells? This kind of thing happens in every generation. Congrats man, you're getting old.

Also it's not a matter of being a black area, it's a matter of being a poor area. Unfortunately in many places in America, there's no difference between the two, but it doesn't have anything to do with race. Poor areas will always have more petty crime and more kids running around without proper parenting.

If this country's fucked, it's not because some black kid flicked you off. Calm down.

Thank you for saying that. I've had this argument so much lately I think my head's going to explode. Now, not calling you a racist man Ita, but you do sound like one in that post. Which, is fine by me. You should hear me after getting into a confrontation of nonsense with a black person. My calming down process involves saying every vicious stereotype that I thought that person brought forth. If someone could only hear me, they wouldn't know I was black.

Here's the real unfortunate thing: I don't know what not poor black people are like. It's been awhile since the cosby show was on, and even that seemed like a fairy tale.

[Animeniax]

Check the news man, the Obamas are basically an answer to your question. They also have some "well-to-do" black comedies on UPN, the WB, and Disney Channel.

Really it is Itadakimasu/bbaucom's fault. Poor neighborhoods are meant for the poor, not for average folks who want to save money for PS3s and other toys.

[Jaitne]

Here's the real unfortunate thing: I don't know what not poor black people are like. It's been awhile since the cosby show was on, and even that seemed like a fairy tale.

It's not about being poor, though, it's about how well you speak and present yourself.

I'm not going to lie, because I do it a lot myself, but.. it's hard not to stereotype people who are trying to be 'ghetto' and have their pants hanging down to show off their underwear, but they hold it up with a belt so it doesn't fall too low??

I've also realzied that a lot of blacks will use the 'you're racist' card against people to get what they want, or to make some people seem less than what they are.

The problem with the future of America is that people are dumb, not in the mentally accepted way, either. There are always going to be idiots in the world, we all just have to deal with it But that's my opinion.

[Ryllharu]

Also it's not a matter of being a black area, it's a matter of being a poor area. Unfortunately in many places in America, there's no difference between the two, but it doesn't have anything to do with race. Poor areas will always have more petty crime and more kids running around without proper parenting.

I think kids these days (I do enjoy saying that) have bigger issues when they come from affluent areas. Their false sense of entitlement is much higher than in poorer, urban (and thus stereotypically black/latino) areas. They get pretty much whatever they want already from their yuppie parents.

The lack of respect for others, and I mean all others, coming from children who have a copy of mommy and daddy's credit card in their wallet and can afford copious amounts of hair gel (because the wannabe "punk" bands on MTV do it) all while hanging out in front of the Hollister store, has been in my expierence, far worse.


/and get off my lawn!

[Jaitne]

The gangster folks with all the clothes sure aren't poor, either.

Anyone, poor or rich has the capability of being a killer, or annoying, or an idiot. Children who are poor and do work to better themselves have a better chance of getting into colleges, too, what with all the scholorships going around taking into consideration the lower income people.

For all we know, the kids he saw were well off, but acting like they weren't.

Oh and the fact that kids are exposed to and influenced by technological mediums (TV, Video Games, etc.) more and more nowadays than in generations past. The amount of exposure at such a pivotal age range coupled with a moderate lack of parenting (Not in all cases, but it is apparent in many) to instill a warped sense of normalcy.

Yea, since younger kids are looking older and doing things most younger kids didn't do at that age. I mean younger as in.. 9 - 12, we've already heard some stories about kids that age getting pregnant at that age, among other things.

I always wondered where they got the time to do that and where the parents were when it happened.

[Board of Command]

I think kids these days (I do enjoy saying that) have bigger issues when they come from affluent areas. Their false sense of entitlement is much higher than in poorer, urban (and thus stereotypically black/latino) areas. They get pretty much whatever they want already from their yuppie parents.

The lack of respect for others, and I mean all others, coming from children who have a copy of mommy and daddy's credit card in their wallet and can afford copious amounts of hair gel (because the wannabe "punk" bands on MTV do it) all while hanging out in front of the Hollister store, has been in my expierence, far worse.


/and get off my lawn!

I can relate to this. I live in a predominantly white neighborhood where every family is pretty well off. My family is probably the poorest in the whole area, but that's beside the point. I've lived in far poorer neighborhoods in the past and back then, I don't think I encountered any snobby kids, except the delinquents, who did whatever the hell they wanted. Where I live right now, there are always herds of white kids who have no sense of respect or responsibility towards others.

Just last year, I got into a scuffle with some retarded kids who kept "disrupting the peace." I know I probably should have dealt with their parents instead, but I was just so pissed at the time that I took it out on the kids instead. Things like that never happened in the old places I've lived in, even though there were a lot more "troublemakers" in those areas.

[animus]

I think it's pretty obvious that a country isn't a race. But how does relating a scenario that happened on your way to work with a particular race, directly lead to the downfall of said country?

It's definitely not the black people that are ruining the USA right now. Far from it.

[Kraco]

I have long thought that world wars are needed to make mankind progress not only technologically but also culturally and socially (or is it societally?). When there have been no major wars, namely wars within the borders of the country, the society begins to deteriorate over time, with generations that take everything for granted and suffer no hardships like the generations of the past that saw total wars and total ruination, and had to rebuilt everything, creating a sense of communinality and common good like no other.

When a nation as a whole has no common interest, we will eventually see all kinds of divisions that cause unrest within and promote decay instead of progress.

Still, I can't say I'd particularly hope for a world war... Even if it gave a fresh beginning, it would suck majorly while it lasted and long after.

[Y]

I have long thought that world wars are needed to make mankind progress not only technologically but also culturally and socially (or is it societally?).

just write "I'm a child" instead of this to save a reader time in the future.

[Kraco]

just write "I'm a child" instead of this to save a reader time in the future.

Thanks for the deep insight, Yroll. It's just idle thinking and wouldn't bear analysis of the cons vs pros, but I still believe there's a little truth to what I said.

[Y]

Thanks for the deep insight, Yroll. It's just idle thinking and wouldn't bear analysis of the cons vs pros, but I still believe there's a little truth to what I said.

What does this even mean? Your idea wouldn't "bear analysis"? Ok, I agree, your idea is wrong. I'm glad we got that out of the way.

[Uchiha Barles]

@Jaitne

Yeah, what I said about not knowing what "not poor black people" was a unclear. I thought it'd be taken in context with what XanBcoo said. More specifically, I don't know what the typical imagery is of blacks who live in generally "good neighborhoods" that aren't associated with poor residents, be they predominantly white or black. I agree with you that on an individual level, it's about how you carry yourself. But then you have to ask yourself, why is it that you're far more likely to run into the stereotypical "black thug" in a poor neighborhood than a not so poor one? Here's a bit of a hint: how many times have you hear of a person robbing someone by saying "Please, hand me your wallet and valuables and lets us make this experience as painless as possible on the both of us. I would hate to resort violence." as opposed to "Motherfucker run yo shit 'fo I bust yo shit!" ? There's definitely a link between poverty and that type behavior, specially on a societal level.

@ Animeniax

Obama doesn't count, most people will never be "like Obama". Presidential candidates with Ivy League degrees and lots and lots of money aren't like most people who are "not poor". Most poor people can't look at him and have a realistic chance of becoming like him either. The UPN and WB shows might actually provide some good approximations. No substitute for seeing some real ones though.

edit: I hate that "You talk white" nonsense. It implies that "speaking black" is speaking as if you've no command of classical english and would kill yourself if you used it. People without that command are generally unschooled in it or unpracticed in it. That, again, is not a black or white (or any other race thing) but an education thing and a poverty thing.

[Carnage]

just write "I'm a child" instead of this to save a reader time in the future.

I actually lol'd.

[Abdula]

Any thread created by Itadakimasu is always opened with a bit of trepidation.

Anyway instead of calling you an idiot or a racist I'll go with Xan and say you're getting old. You're only 25 and yet you sound as if you're 65. A kid gives you the finger and suddenly you're worried about the future of America. Funny thing is I thought this thread was going to be about the economy, or education or even the upcoming election. I mean if you're worried about the future of America it shouldn't be because of an 8 year old flipping you off. I am seriously trying not to laugh here.

Living in a predominantly black area sometimes makes me feel like a racist since i get to see how uneducated and stupid alot of these people are that live near me..... and the sad new is, they're breeding.

Trust me its not where you live that is making you feel like a racist and what do you mean they're breeding, are they animals or something. I wonder if you even read that before you posted it.

I have long thought that world wars are needed to make mankind progress not only technologically but also culturally and socially. When there have been no major wars, namely wars within the borders of the country, the society begins to deteriorate over time, with generations that take everything for granted and suffer no hardships like the generations of the past that saw total wars and total ruination, and had to rebuilt everything, creating a sense of communality and common good like no other.

When a nation as a whole has no common interest, we will eventually see all kinds of divisions that cause unrest within and promote decay instead of progress.

I agree with this completely, I've often had the same thought.

[Animeniax]

The US is a cesspool, no doubt, but black, white, brown, yellow, whatever, they're all for shit in the US. I'm on a personal journey of discovery of sorts in my parents' 3rd world homeland. Here they may not flick you off, but they'll make you feel the same way as those kids in your neighborhood, just in their own way. Even rich white snobs will treat you like shit if you're not one of them. I'm appreciating more and more what we have in the US now that I'm in the middle of a 3rd world country. Maybe you should go stay in Mexico for a couple weeks.

I think this entire incident could have been avoided if you learned how to deal with these kids. Maybe talk some ebonics with them, like "sup dawgs, whitey needs to pass on through, ya heard? We coo? Yeah, we coo. Big ups little homies." Or something like that. Sorry if any of those terms are no longer "hip", but I haven't watched MTV in a few years. The kids probably didn't appreciate the angry stare or nervous look you were giving them, or when they saw you slowly reach down and lock your door. Really you should have done that as soon as you got in the car.

[The Heretic Azazel]

"sup dawgs, whitey needs to pass on through, ya heard? We coo? Yeah, we coo. Big ups little homies." Or something like that. Sorry if any of those terms are no longer "hip", but I haven't watched MTV in a few years.

No, you sound completely up to date with your ebonics, don't hide the fact that you study it. Big ups. That's real spit on the fly tip!