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    I think chouji's techniques are closer to medical ninjutsu than anything else. Since your using your chakra to effect a living body.

    Then you get into someone really weird like Shino. Are those bugs just trained like the way Kiba would train a dog, or does he control them with his chakra somehow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    So anything that can't be explained by just shape manipulation or nature manipulation or both is supposedly yin/yang, which Kishi conveniently hasn't explained.
    When you say yin and yang, is that what DB translated as Light and Dark manipulations?
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    Nah, medical jutsu is about restoring while shaodw jutsu seem to be about transforming

    The bugs are probably already trained by their ancestors to obey their owner, than it's a matter of how many bugs you can handle in your body ( chakra supply ) and how imaginative you can be with your attacks.

    Edit: Yeah it probably is, the manga also translated it that way ( y the double post? )

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    Yeah yin and yang is what they called it in the manga, DB translated it to light/dark. I prefer to use yin and yang though it makes a lot more sense that way. I agree with DarthEnder, I think Chouji's techniques are closely related to medical jutsu although since its yin and yang its probably just a matter of balance, this much yin to this much yang. I suppose all three of their techniques, Shikamaru's, Chouji's and Ino's are related.

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    why not? shino bug training makes as much sense as Kiba and Akamaru merging into a two headed chimera (special note: WHAT THE HELL?).

    (note: last anime episode I saw was 130, or something, right when the fillers started).

    it's not like shino just takes any bug he finds outside and mind-controls it. the bugs he uses are special breed. probably the result of genetic experiments of twisted apiarists.
    it's not even so hard to figure, shino acts as hive\queen, and by use of pheromones, can direct them to do certain actions.

    anyway... continuing the discussion of crap in narutoverse. what group does Kage bunshin fall into?
    it looks like form manipulation, but then you'd have to believe that a sentient being, with ability to move and acts on his own, is less complicated than gathering some chackra in your hand.
    also, despite the name, it has nothing to do with shadow manipulation (shdaow, darkness, Yang, evil parts of the color spectrum). and the yin\yang crap is just a lousy way to bail-out of a serious explanation about jutsus.

    DBZ, didn't watch naruto anime since 2005. and it's much better this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    DBZ, didn't watch naruto anime since 2005. and it's much better this way.
    No shit. We seriously have to get these guys to watch Soul Eater, now that's what i call a kickass shonnen anime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    it's not like shino just takes any bug he finds outside and mind-controls it.
    Actually, I'm pretty sure he can do that. Since during the chuunin exam it shows him using a bunch of, I guess they're like, giant tree leeches to attack another team. He certainly doesn't carry those around with him.

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    My theory is that it is either one of two things.

    1) Shino has the ability to communicate with the bugs, whether it be through brain impulses or chakra.

    2) Because Shino feeds the bugs his chakra, maybe they don't digest the chakra immediately, allowing them to store the chakra in their bodies. Considering this chakra is still Shino's, maybe he is able to manipulate it even though it is outside of his body.

    This second theory does bring up a lot of questions though, as I have always thought of chakra to flow through the body such as blood, but then again using chakra: people like yamato are able to move trees into the direction he wants.

    So maybe he has a strong affinity for inserting chakra into insects?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    No shit. We seriously have to get these guys to watch Soul Eater, now that's what i call a kickass shonnen anime
    Or One Piece if you want a long running shonen series that is not constantly disappointing.

    Anyways, since we are on the topic of shit in Naruto that doesn't make sense there is one thing that has always bothered me.

    The Replacement Jutsu

    Here we have this incredibly convenient technique usable even by little kids that let you replace your body with a chunk of wood and potentially stop you from dying, except for the fact that NOBODY ever fucking uses it when they are about to die.

    It seem that most ninja forget every single basic jutsu the moment they reach a certain rank since a lot (like 95% of the no name ninja that attacked Konoha) are prone to dying from shuriken or kunai without even putting up a fight.

    I can understand why he introduced the technique since it's a famous ninja staple but it would've been nice to introduce some limitation that would prevent peoples from using it readily in battle (like using up a large percentage of your charka) instead of never actually explaining it so now we have a shit load of inconsistencies in the story.

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    easy.
    it's taijutsu movement, a skill depending on speed ant expertise. you need to have something to switch with close by, and be fast enough to do it, that's why it mostly used by Kakashi.

    people who won't use it (and reasons for it).
    Naruto: too stupid to think of dodging, too sucking a being cool to preform properly.
    Sasuke: too cool for taijutsu, he's all about the show and the shannigans.
    Sakura: honsetly, sakura? who's adapt at dodging and is smart? she's a girl, and girls can't be ninjas.
    Sai: too cool for anything that didn't come from art school.
    villains: they can't use anything that isn't their special power, so anything basic is out of the question.

    that covers it, anyone other than Kakashi can't use the replacement skill. it's like a forbidden taijutsu skill.

    (obviously, someone has to say that it's a ninjutsu skill and then I'll have to say that Kishimonto is an idiot, which I could have said from the start and not have to write this all)

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    Sakura hasn't been using now since she can either dodge or punch whatever's thrown at her, but pre-shippuuden, the Replacement Technique was like the one she used the most.

    I guess if all the ninjas use it too much, it'll just be a hax move, if it isn't already.

    Other people who have used it (or a variation of it) recently:

    1) Sasori (Sand Substitution Technique) - against Konkoro
    2) Yamato (Wood Substitution Technique) - FAIL XD
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