Had a little mental error there huh. Just so you know, you could have simply edited the post and changed the thread title.Originally Posted by Marik
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
New opening = win. Izumo and Kotetsu are like the Genma and Raido of chuunin.
Last edited by Yukimura; Thu, 09-04-2008 at 10:19 PM.
^ I didn't even noticed that, since I usually just skip it. Only noticed that they took the movie crap out. Wonder how long they'll use it though? It's about time for a new OP. Nevermind new OP and ED start with ep 77 and 80 it seems.
OP #4: "CLOSER" by Inoue Joe (eps 80 -)
ED #7: "Long Kiss Goodbye" by HALCALI (eps 77 -)
Last edited by Marik; Fri, 09-12-2008 at 11:15 PM.
i love the new op
And I might be the only one, but that whole scene in Sakura's room made me think the anime is trying to go into a slightly more 'mature' direction.
Last edited by Kusanagi; Thu, 09-04-2008 at 10:14 PM.
not a bad ep....mostly buildup though.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Mature, haha, you can't possibly be serious. If they wanted to be more mature they would stick to the canon material but no its back to the same old formula.
Add in ridiculous BS for no other reason than an attempt at comic relief. Whats with this whole Sakura and Sai watching Naruto train nonesense anyway, I noticed they did that since the beginning and I was wondering why. Now I know, its just another excuse for them to stretch things out. Speaking of which damn, whats with the stretching and the flashbacks and Naruto talking to himself. Not only did they stretch out Naruto's training by adding in Sai and Sakura, not to mention that horrible filler arc, but didn't it take Naruto only one night to cut the waterfall, not what was it three and whats with that stupid music.
Oh and why are we seeing Choji and whats her name, or are we supposed to believe that those useless guys are actually part of the Nijyuu Shoutai. Yeah I'll form twenty new squads to hunt down Akatsuki and I'll put Chouji and Ino in. Uh huh.
I'm praying, just praying that they don't ruin the fighting in this arc like they did in the last two because that is the only reason I'm still watching this shit.
There is something else I'm forgetting to bitch about but I guess I'll have to leave it for another time.
Ah, that was a good post
Last edited by Abdula; Fri, 09-05-2008 at 12:31 AM.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
The new opening scenes were the best part of this episode. If those are an accurate portrayal of coming events, I feel bad for those two chuunin who are always in the background who have to fight that Akatsuki guy.
The one thing I've been noticing the past couple episodes is this growing sense of foreboding surrounding Asuma, and frankly, I'm worried about him. It's like he has all these scenes and they are filled with this ominous foreshadowing and its just giving off this vibe like he's not gonna survive this arc.
I'd be concerned about Izumo and Kotetsu (sp?), as generic chuunin = red shirts of the Naruto world
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Well, they're hardly generic. Those fuckers have been around since the chuunin exams. Always guarding the gate and killing zombies and other filler foes.
After the scene with Kurenai, it's hard to not worry about Asuma.
the new opening is *awesome*
I don't understand Abdula's bitching for now, because this episode was rather good... It was the first time I thought Naruto (the character) is awesome, when he managed to cut the waterfall in half.
and why shouldn't Tsunade put Ino and Chouji in the new squads? arn't they both Chuunin? and Ino is a medical-nin too isn't she? The only stupid thing about it is that everyone was wearing their cool "ninja armor-suits" and they were the only ones who didn't... why don't they just follow Shikamaru's lead and wear it!
I liked the musicwhats with that stupid music.
Don't know if it is nonesense yet... I remember Sakura being sad that she couldn't do much to help her friends.. and even though she grew up to be a strong medic-nin she still can't do much... and sai + yamato *both* told her that it isn't important if she can't do much, but it's important that she tries to do something... and thats enough.. however I still don't know if she can accept it or notWhats with this whole Sakura and Sai watching Naruto train nonesense anyway
To come back to the opening (because I've watched the fighting scene in the opening for like 8-10 times)
I hope the fighting scenes will be that good too... I want it to be as good as the "Naruto vs Sasuke" fight during the Sound Four incident.. because both Hidan and Kakuzu deserve it.
They were shown only for like 20 seconds in this episode and it made me like them even more (maybe the new opening has to do something with that too ^^)
I couldn't care less about that... for me Asuma was always a character standing in the background. The filler-arc didn't change my mind in that point... however it might change very soon.. but for now he isn't more important than (*scrolls up to see the names*) Izumo and Kotetsu... in fact, I think even they got more screen time than Azuma. I have more sympathy for them than Asuma at the moment.After the scene with Kurenai, it's hard to not worry about Asuma.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Fri, 09-05-2008 at 09:43 AM.
I'm beginning to fail to see what good Asuma's wind chakra knives are. They don't seem to cut anything more efficiently where it really counts. Yes, if you believe the filler you could become a carpenter with a pair but in a fight..? To make any sense they would need to be able cut Hidan's multiblade scythe to pieces but that didn't seem to be the case based on the OP. So, they apparently just shine nicely bright so that if you try to sneak in the dark, your enemy will spot you from a hundred meters afar. Brilliant.
I liked this episode, though. It didn't have much action but it didn't feel like wasting time. Perhaps one reason was I was genuinely able to laugh at the beginning (and the end), and not mockingly like far too often with Naruto these days. Yamato turning into a veritable mummy while trying to keep up with Naruto and his bottomless chakra pool was a funny enough detail. And the end with fooling Kakashi was a decent joke as well.
Sakura still seems to be a crybaby but seeing her reflect her shortcomings in this ep didn't make me despise her. That might have been due to how good her profile looked against the nightsky...
Needless to say, Naruto's progress with his training also makes me somewhat glad. I'm so goddamned bored of kage bunshin and rasengan that it's sweet beyond measure to think Naruto might soon be able to overuse a new technique instead of the same old ones seen hundreds of times.
Well, I look at it this way.
Asuma has never been in a real, non-filler battle against an equal level opponent in the entire series. The closest he got was a 10 seconds exchange against Kisame. And as he hasn't been in a real fight, his real powers have never been shown to the audience.
So if he's going up against an Akastuki member for real, I expect to see what other jutsu he knows besides chakra blades.For me it was the scene with the cigarettes. When a chain smoker all of a sudden decides to stop smoking for no apparent reason, that's bad man. Ominous.After the scene with Kurenai, it's hard to not worry about Asuma.
Thats okay
You know why they don't look the part, simply because they weren't there.and why shouldn't Tsunade put Ino and Chouji in the new squads? arn't they both Chuunin? and Ino is a medical-nin too isn't she? The only stupid thing about it is that everyone was wearing their cool "ninja armor-suits" and they were the only ones who didn't... why don't they just follow Shikamaru's lead and wear it!
You actually like that stupid music they played when he cut the waterfall?I liked the music
Sakura=waste of time
I hope they won't be that good, because that generic fighting is boring and as Kraco mentioned it looked ridiculous. Hidan has a huge triple bladed scythe attached to a huge string/chain, so why why in the world would Asuma try to fight him using close combat. Not to mention that as he said it makes Asuma's blades look useless, not that that crappy filler arc didn't down play the effectiveness of chakra weapons enough already. You're just excited to see fighting because honestly you could replace that little fight in the op between Asuma and Hidan with any other characters and it would just as good to you.To come back to the opening (because I've watched the fighting scene in the opening for like 8-10 times)
I hope the fighting scenes will be that good too... I want it to be as good as the "Naruto vs Sasuke" fight during the Sound Four incident.. because both Hidan and Kakuzu deserve it.
Yeah seriously, what is with that.They were shown only for like 20 seconds in this episode
Thats just sad really, sure he never really did anything but he is a pretty good character and he should be winning you over right about now. I mean that was the purpose of us seeing him so much but they are failing to do even that, and really fillers can't make anybody look good.I couldn't care less about that... for me Asuma was always a character standing in the background. The filler-arc didn't change my mind in that point... however it might change very soon.. but for now he isn't more important than (*scrolls up to see the names*) Izumo and Kotetsu... in fact, I think even they got more screen time than Azuma. I have more sympathy for them than Azuma at the moment.
There was a reason but just like everything else they managed to mess that up as well, but we'll get to that.
Last edited by Abdula; Fri, 09-05-2008 at 09:57 AM.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
You seem to be forgetting something. I'm sure it will come to you in a couple of weeks.
(chapter 327, page 11, taken in the context of chapter 324 page 11 the bottom left box...)
Last edited by Narasho; Fri, 09-05-2008 at 12:16 PM.
yes I liked it, I don't know why you would call that music stupid. Typical music for a "heroic" moment.
it makes you think that he just did something awesome when he cut the waterfall in 2... and it *is* awesome.
and I don't think Sakura was a waste of time in this episode... it was well made and just because it didn't happen in the manga doesn't mean it was useless or a waste of time. It often is, but not always ^^ it was decently done, actually I feel pretty sad for her now because whatever she does, she never reachs her *own* expectations.
what the fuck ^^? those fights are the only reason to watch the anime instead of reading the manga... and it didn't look ridiculous... and who says that Asuma has the chance to fight him with range jutsus?I hope they won't be that good, because that generic fighting is boring and as Kraco mentioned it looked ridiculous. Hidan has a huge triple bladed scythe attached to a huge string/chain, so why why in the world would Asuma try to fight him using close combat. Not to mention that as he said it makes Asuma's blades look useless
ever played a MMO or something similiar to that? the melee class does always try to get the range class into melee, because he is a smaller threat then and you take less dmg. and if you yourself have only melee techniques you have to get near the enemy...
I doubt that it's different in Naruto
who says that he didn't try to fight him at range? maybe he just failed? or Hidan finally managed to get close to him and now it's his turn, while Asuma is only defending himself
and why does it look ridiculous? I think it was skillfully done (and not "overdone"), Hidan uses a scythe, but a scythe can also be used like a polearm. If they would make it look totally realistic, THEN it would look ridiculous
Taijutsu or Taijutsu with weapons (it it the same thing? I don't know) is one of the best things about the anime Naruto... I like when a fight starts with Taijutsu -> short moment for using Ninjutsu -> Taijutsu again etc.
I don't like the big Ninjutsus like Zabuza used... it took like 20-30 seconds to summon that Water Dragon...
Last edited by KrayZ33; Fri, 09-05-2008 at 12:27 PM.
You seemed to have misunderstood me KrayZ.
For one thing that scene with Sakura in her room was in the manga, the anime guys could never come up with anything good on their own. What was a waste of time was us seeing her buying ingredients and making soldier pills to bring to Naruto just for comic relief. Sure the fact that she was thinking about Naruto and trying to help was nice but that stuff was really unnecessary, especially since we've been seeing it since Naruto's training began, Sai too. That scene with her and Iruka was also pointless and we weren't supposed to see Iruka again so soon anyway.
What is it about the word generic, that you don't understand. As for Asuma and Hidan, Hidan is a melee fighter and he would have a big advantage against Asuma in close combat. Nothing about a guy with knives that are no bigger than a kunai fighting a guy with a huge triple bladed scythe seemed strange to you. If you had a knife and you had to fight a guy with a scythe on a chain no less, would you go close to him? Btw don't make too much of a big deal out of this its just an opening.
Not at all friend. That has nothing to do with the fact that they weren't there.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
generic = typical or something like superficial isn't it?
and if you call *that* typical then I have to say that, this is the way I want them to fight the whole time :/...
I don't understand what you are trying to say at the moment with "that generic fighting is boring", explain it to me then ^^
and yes I would try to get close to him, because a swing-weapon is useless in really close combat... a spear/polearm/scythe is only usable in mid range.
this is why a weapon like that sucks at close quarters.
you need *a lot* of room to fight with such a weapon, if you are able to get close to Hidan, he won't have that freedom and his weapon gets inefficient.
and in the opening we can see (when he is standing near Kakuzu) that he uses his scythe like a spear.. so if you ever have to face him in melee, get as close to him as possible and his weapon will be useless.. all he can do is push you away or make a long swing to break your ripps (which creates a big opening once he reaches back ) another possibility would be that he trys to step backwards to get to mid range again, if he does that you can do the same thing and you are free from him for a while because now there is a big gap between you and him -> time for some ranged jutsu, but since Hidan isn't stupid he will most likely use the chain on his weapon and try to interrupt you...
well.. and so on xD
and yes I'm well aware that it's just an opening scene, but I just wanted to point out that it would be awesome if the fight is really going to be like this ^^ (I know that it is 95% unlikely)
btw kakuzus fight in the opening was much cooler than Hidan vs Asuma :P
he stopped the sword with his bare hands followed by an elbow check! then grabbed the sword while it flew in mid-air to block the next attack by the other guy and kicked him in da face! Huuuuuuuuuah awsome!
Last edited by KrayZ33; Fri, 09-05-2008 at 12:56 PM.
It'll be a whole lot better than that
Btw did it look like Hidan was inefficient, I mean he is laughing and swinging away while Asuma looks like he is struggling just to keep up with him not to mention he got cut across his cheek. Your strategy is logical but it depends on the level of the people involved, this is Akatsuki.
Last edited by Abdula; Fri, 09-05-2008 at 12:48 PM.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
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