I assumed he just widened the existing river by moving out the dirt
I assumed he just widened the existing river by moving out the dirt
That makes so much more f*ing sense now.Originally Posted by Abdula
That may well be the case. If memory serves me right, when they introduced the 2nd Hokage, they described him as being able to use high level water techniques without a source of water.
If that's the case, then it depends on whether maintaining a waterfall of that magnitude is a high level technique. We know it expends a lot of chakra, but that's about it. Further more, the First had a Earth and Water disposition, while the Second, being his brother with similar DNA, had supernatural Water affinity.
It would probably make sense that Yamato's water control is above normal ninja levels. Besides, does being an ANBU mean you're necessarily below a Jounin?
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Above a regular ninja sure, but thus far there are only two people capable of creating their own water source The Second and Kisame and I don't think Yamato is on their level.
Oh and the Anbu are just a group. The members are chuunin or above, the majority of them actually seem to be Jounin. The Anbu are actually pretty strong, Yamato and Kakashi are perfect examples. Kishi just doesn't have much love for them and he likes to use them for fodder, so they get a bad rap.
Last edited by Abdula; Sun, 08-31-2008 at 10:57 PM.
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Would you be able to address this part without spoiling, Abdula? Or anyone else?
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I don't think there is anything to spoil, basically you know all we do. Other than the second there doesn't seem to be anyone who can use high level water jutsus without a source. What exactly is high level is debatable and Kisame is a unique case because he creates his own water source by spitting up a ridiculous amount of water. Water jutsus aren't really popular, after this I can only think of maybe four instances where one was actually used, three of them being in this arc.
Oh and there doesn't seem to be any maintenance involved, at least not to me.
Last edited by Abdula; Mon, 09-01-2008 at 12:04 AM.
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I guess this means Naruto will eventually master Wind techniques enough that he can use them even without air (should he ever build a shadow clone pyramid high enough to reach the orbit)...
I'm not a totally manga reader. I'm stop reading manga after the end of naruto training arc. I cant remember whether yamato adding more waterfall for naruto. I think, yamato just create a circulation waterfall. We know he is an earth element user. The water should flow underground from down to top of waterfaIl. Basically thats my theory and i think its possible in manga only. But now we can argue about time when yamato create a waterfall, sora's filler and naruto resuming his traing with a huge waterfall. Maybe yamato just stop his water jutsu and leave it like before the training.
I must admit the previous filler leave a bit effect to the original story. What can i say, the previous filler is just to introduce about chiriku from fire country. Sorry guys for my poor english.
anyone else notice Kakuzu's arm? it looked like it was sewn or stitched together. You see it when he picks up Chiriku's corpse and puts it on his back. Maybe that has something to do with whatever techniques he uses? I dunno just something odd i noticed was all.
I don't see the connection with his techniques there yet... (especially after seeing his arm turn totally black... as if it froze or something)
the first thing which came into my mind was that he is stitched up together some people of you might have played warcraft 3, there is a unit called "abomination" it's stitched up together with many different parts of human flesh and limbs.. (so it's a being made out of 10 other beings )
it's a weird "medical project"... so I thought Kakuzu might be something like that too... it would be cool if he has a connection to orochimaru or something like that (because we've seen him doing this stuff)
btw...
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Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 09-01-2008 at 03:53 PM.
Why can't a ninja just be ninja-esque without people assuming he has some sort of physical deformity? Jesus, all we've seen Kakazu do is punch down a door.
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well maybe because he's got weird eyes... and maybe because both his left AND his right arm have those stitches?
that, plus he is a member of akatsuki might be the cause why people think "there is more to him than a mere ninja-esque appearance"
Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 09-01-2008 at 03:32 PM.
Me wonders if KrayZ knows more than he's letting on.
Because, really when was the last time a normal ninja was introduced. Hidan is a freak so its reasonable to assume that his partner is one too, and before them we had Deidara and Sasori, and Yamato who was Oro's guinea pig.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
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well I noticed the stitches on both arms in the fan art I made my avatar from ^^
but it's shown in this episode too (when he closes the map and when he smashed down the big gate) so it's not a spoiler anymore, heheee
Yamato probably used the water from underground and pooled it together to compose the waterfall, and then changed the earth to allow it to actually be a waterfall, and to move the water together.
I just thought that they were ninja tatts.
And for Yamato being able to make the waterfall bigger or calling for water at all...could have just made the water from the moisture in the air, in one of the fillers someone was able to do that.
Plus the wood technique does require a lot of water and earth knowledge.
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
There's more Water jutsu users in the series than any other element so far. With the 1st(earth and water), 2nd, and the 3rd, Zabazu, Haku(water and wind), Yamato(earth and water), Kakashi and Kisame. That's 8.
How many Wind users are there so far? 4? Naruto, Temari, Asuma, Haku(wind and water) Earth element? The 3rd, the 1st, Jiboro, Kakashi, Yamato(earth and water).
How many lightning users have they shown? Just Kakashi and Sasuke.
The only one that comes close is Fire because in addition to Kakashi and Sasuke, a lot of generic kohona ninjas are shown using fire techniques.
um, that wasn't fan art.
Never ever use filler to try and explain canon material. Okay, got it. Good.
Uh, I think the only one you actually got right was lightning. Anyway my point, wasn't about the number of people who can use water jutsus, my point was that we don't get to see many water techniques. Like I said after Yamato's little waterfall creation, we're only going to see about four water techniques, and then there is a drought.
Last edited by Abdula; Mon, 09-01-2008 at 11:10 PM.
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I see, if your only speaking of people that used a water jutsu, and not just those who could use the water element, then that would leave most of the combination users off the list.
If we're just talking about jutsu, then yeah, there's probably even less. But I still think there's more water jutsu shown than any other just because there's been two main villains that were water specific. I mean, Zabuza had the water prison, the water clones, the water blast, the water dragons, the and Kisame had the sharks and I think a couple other techniques, and the 2nd, Kisame and Yamato can all summon bodies of water. And then there's Gamabunta's water bullet.
I can only think of three fire jutsu(fireball, fire blossom and fire dragon), one lightning(Chidori, although I guess fully body chidori and chidori sword count also). Maybe three wind jutsu(Asuma's wind chakra blade, and Temari's wind scythes, Shukaku's air blasts, oh, and Gaara's squad leader had some kind of wind sword jutsu, but they cut away and didn't actually show it). Then for earth you have like the mud replacement, earth wall, earth decapitation, and Jiroubou chakra eating dome thing.
It all boils down to what elements had main characters/villains that really represented them. Kisame and Zabuza were both main villains. Temari is the only main character that uses wind until Naruto actually learns the how to use it. Sasuke is the only character that had a fire theme going(and now he's also the only lightning themed character), And the only real Earth element character was Jiroubou.
EDIT: Ooh, I just remebered that Sasori's final puppet form had a water jutsu and a fire jutsu.
I don't think puppets count...
Just wondering when they are going to give a bit more information about the elements natured jutsu's. When they said that Naruto had the "rare" wind, I think they mean it's rare for people from Konoha. Think they got lots of them in the wind country.
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I always wondered why it's called the "fire country" when actually only a few people use fire techniques..
When I started to watch Naruto and they explained the 5(?) Different countrys, I thought of it to be similiar to "Avatar: The Last Airbender"... people in Konoha mainly using fire techniques (like Sasuke), Land of Water using Water Techniques like Zabuza or Kisame...
I was fine with it when they also use different elements... but for some reason Konoha seems to be the only country which uses earth, lightning, fire, water, wind, water techniques without limitations...
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