Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood

**fireheart** · Wed, 10-21-2009, 04:57 PM

Started thinking about how they were talking about the birth of alchemy. On how a man came from the east and gave them alchemy while in the east someone came from the west. Since these seem to be two different sorts of alchemy. Also Scars brother studied eastern alchemy and after he made the tattoos on his arms he commented on how something was weird about the alchemy in the country which I'm guessing is the western alchemy.

Yeah so thinking maybe those two people were Hoenhiem and Father. If Hoenhiem is the founder of eastern alchemy and Father of western alchemy it could explain the difference and why eastern still worked even though Father nullified Ed and Als alchemy. This is mostly assumed on the fact that there's a connection between the two and Envy talking about giving power. Though if that's the case I guess Father should realize why Scar and May could still use alchemy... ohh well.

**Jessper** · Wed, 10-21-2009, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

Father them talked as if he gave them alchemy, which I wouldn't be at all surprised at, given how he's been running the country before they were even born.

Since Scar's human decomposition didn't work on Father, I can confidently say he's no longer human. Even physically.

I'm guessing he never was human. I also get the feeling that there are more than just Father and Hoenhiem, though the other man in Hoenhiem's dream was most probably Father. I wonder how involved in all this Hoenhiem will end up when all is said and done.

edit: The philosipher's stone doesn't seem to be as omnipotent as we originally thought. Gluttony can't die, but there's a limit to how many times he can die, possibly linked to the number of people who were killed in order to make the stone. In a sense, it's still bound by equivalent exchange.

Yep, there is a good chance that things like opening the gate from inside Gluttony cost part of a soul as well.

I do wonder if Father runs on the philosopher's stone or does he have his own power in addition to that?

***Buffalobiian*** · Wed, 10-21-2009, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Jessper

I'm guessing he never was human. I also get the feeling that there are more than just Father and Hoenhiem, though the other man in Hoenhiem's dream was most probably Father.

I initially thought that was Father too, but seeing how it was all a dream about him getting a grip on things, I concluded that it was just his darker self talking. the fact they looked exactly alike, minus the cloak and glasses support this, I think.

**Cal_kashi** · Fri, 10-23-2009, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

FMA 2009 is scheduled for 50 episodes last time I checked, which means it should finish right when it should.

I wonder what this is like for the Manga Artist. He knows how many episodes in the anime are left, has an idea how many chapters remain in the manga. He is watching the anime get closer and closer to where he is but since the manga has not been completed he doesn't know where the anime is headed; similar to everyone who is only watching the anime.

I think I am doing an absolutely horrendous job expressing the thoughts that I am having with regards to my hypothetical situation and how it feels.

***Kraco*** · Fri, 10-23-2009, 08:54 AM

If the mangaka is any sort of a serious author, he knows precisely how and when his story will end. Furthermore I still find it extremely hard to believe the studio would have started to animate a second FMA anime if they weren't sure they can have the manga ending for it as well.

***Buffalobiian*** · Fri, 10-23-2009, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Cal_kashi

I wonder what this is like for the Manga Artist. He knows how many episodes in the anime are left, has an idea how many chapters remain in the manga. He is watching the anime get closer and closer to where he is but since the manga has not been completed he doesn't know where the anime is headed; similar to everyone who is only watching the anime.

I think I am doing an absolutely horrendous job expressing the thoughts that I am having with regards to my hypothetical situation and how it feels.

If I was the mangaka, I wouldn't care or feel pressured by the anime. He's the author of the manga, and it's what he'll be remembered for. If finishing the manga properly meant conflicting with the anime's schedule, then so be it.

He should be out to write a memorable manga. It's the studio's fault if the anime isn't up to scratch, not his.

Also, I don't see that the anime is destined to finish up in line with the manga. There's plenty of ways to finish off a series, be it OVAs or just a movie.

Hell, a 2hr movie or something will be around 6 episodes of material.

***Buffalobiian*** · Sun, 10-25-2009, 09:09 PM

Eclipse - Episode 29 SD | HD

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If there was still any doubts which real life country Xing relates to, Ling wrote in Chinese.

Young Armstrong was pretty appealing in his cute, upright way.

**NeoCybercoin** · Mon, 10-26-2009, 01:11 PM

It's interesting to learn that every single Alchemist in Central couldn't use Alchemy. Well most anyway. Scar and May Chan could so as I said before: They must be using a different type of Alchemy. Like Alkahemy ( if it were called that by one of Ling's bodyguards ).

**Cal_kashi** · Mon, 10-26-2009, 04:21 PM

I like that Greed appears to not have completely taken over LIng. It's double the awesome.

**Cal_kashi** · Mon, 10-26-2009, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

If I was the mangaka, I wouldn't care or feel pressured by the anime. He's the author of the manga, and it's what he'll be remembered for. If finishing the manga properly meant conflicting with the anime's schedule, then so be it.

He should be out to write a memorable manga. It's the studio's fault if the anime isn't up to scratch, not his.

Also, I don't see that the anime is destined to finish up in line with the manga. There's plenty of ways to finish off a series, be it OVAs or just a movie.

Hell, a 2hr movie or something will be around 6 episodes of material.

I guess for a shorter story this is absolutely true. But take Naruto and Bleach, NAruto especially, how much of the plot do you think was solidified when it started?

**Xyrox** · Mon, 10-26-2009, 06:32 PM

I like that Ling is a monster with a human inside that tries to take over, and not the other way around.
Wow, the Führer really scared me when he stabbed Al.

***Buffalobiian*** · Mon, 10-26-2009, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Xyrox

Wow, the Führer really scared me when he stabbed Al.

The Fuhrer really cracked me up when Ling yelled at him.

**Ryllharu** · Mon, 10-26-2009, 07:32 PM

Ling was badass. I guess there really is someone who can out greed Greed. He is right up there with Scar if he can wrest control back. I still wonder how Lan Fan will approach this.

I liked the fighting between May and Lan Fan as well.

But the Winry phone call was my favorite, especially when she started twisting the cord around her finger. A very cute scene.

**DarthEnderX** · Mon, 10-26-2009, 10:11 PM

Anyone else find it really annoying that they are playing important pieces of the storyline AFTER the ending credits now?

**RyougaZell** · Mon, 10-26-2009, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by DarthEnder

Anyone else find it really annoying that they are playing important pieces of the storyline AFTER the ending credits now?

No. Tons of shows do this... and personally I always watch even the opening and ending credits

Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

The Fuhrer really cracked me up when Ling yelled at him.

Ah yes. He got me too there. He stole the episode with that.

**Jessper** · Tue, 10-27-2009, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by DarthEnder

Anyone else find it really annoying that they are playing important pieces of the storyline AFTER the ending credits now?

damn, I missed this one too. I guess I'll get in the habit of checking. o_O

**Cal_kashi** · Tue, 10-27-2009, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by Jessper

damn, I missed this one too. I guess I'll get in the habit of checking. o_O

I think it started last week, at least you know now and not nest Saturday or Sunday

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It's an exuse to go re-watch it for that part at the end.

**NeoCybercoin** · Tue, 10-27-2009, 11:32 AM

I think it's a bit strange why he remade Gluttony but inserted Greed into Ling's body. I mean I am pretty sure he could also remake Greed the same way. Or it's because he made Gluttony with that fake "truth"...I dunno.

**itadakimasu** · Tue, 10-27-2009, 03:42 PM

I think Gluttony is special because of the whole false gate, etc. Plus, he was telling him he'd recreate him w\ his memories intact. Greed didn't get to keep his memories, because he was off doing his own thing I think.

I got excited about how wrath provoked ling into yelling at him. I was glad may didn't get shanked like one of my Marta. good ep.

***Buffalobiian*** · Tue, 10-27-2009, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin

I think it's a bit strange why he remade Gluttony but inserted Greed into Ling's body. I mean I am pretty sure he could also remake Greed the same way. Or it's because he made Gluttony with that fake "truth"...I dunno.

For whatever reason Father wanted to use Ling as a human base so he could create another aging Homunculus like Wrath is.

Gluttony was just remade the good old way.

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