Amazing. The scene where they were inside and then cut to Gluttony worrying was classic, like his stomach was aching. And nice to see Envy's true form.
Amazing. The scene where they were inside and then cut to Gluttony worrying was classic, like his stomach was aching. And nice to see Envy's true form.
Somehow summoning a little blade when facing a monster the size of a tyrannosaurus doesn't seem like the smartest idea.
Right now it looks like Mustang is tightly grasping the shorter stick in the competition with Bradley. It's quite interesting, though, that Bradley doesn't seem inclined to neutralize Mustang more forcefully but rather tame him.
Great as always, and that true form of Envy is some freaky ass shit O.o
Also, the pygmypanda knows kung-fu!
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Seeing Envy transform was ten times more amazing than it was in the manga. I'm so pumped for the next episode. :3
yeah...he also seems much bigger in the anime as well.
good eye.Originally Posted by ForteCross
i was pretty impressed with the fight in this episode. as most people said, it's rare for a show to be consistently good, but this remake is turning out that way.
i absolutely loved the scene with Pride and Wrath speaking (Wrath is the fucking bomb). and i liked the end of this episode. the music and sudden cuts work perfectly.
got a real bone to pick with the first scene though. Envy is as delightfully evil as always, but, fuck, I spit on that retardedly over-powerful hinting... thought it was a pretty anti-climactic way to reveal what could have been a huge shocker.
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
i do hope they include some more of Envy's body screaming and moaning, next episode. i think his animated form is cool (a little green in that dark abyss, though), but i really thought the freakiest thing about it is all the corpses/souls bubbling and shouting. that was the gut-wrencher for me when i saw the scene in the manga.
comedy was on point in this episode. Gluttony and Al make for such an unexpectedly comic duo. Scar seems to be turning the proverbial corner at the intersection of Forced Villian and Anti-Hero boulevards, and I'm not sure I really like that.
Bradley's hands shaking while he recounts how Hughes' daughter's crying infuriated him at the funeral has got to be in my top five Wrath moments ever. you think Gluttony's stomach is deep?
like Kraco said, it really seems that Bradley is making the classic villain "KILL HIM ALREADY!" mistake by keeping Mustang alive. He does have the good sense to separate him from his loyal subordinates, but you have to wonder what it all means, especially if you recall what he said to Pride last episode.
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
Gluttony blushing when Al touched his belly was strangely heartwarming. Definitely put a smile on my face, no matter how evil that plump bastard may seem, there has always been a naive innocence to balance it out.
That line definitely proved once and for all that Bradley is a complete monster.
Not having read the manga, I'm just guessing at his motivations for doing this. To me, Bradley is doing what all villains set up for a fall do, trying to prove they are dominant by breaking the will of those who oppose them. They kill the weak, kill the small fry, kill the incompetent. But the ones who are smart, clever, or devious in their own right, they have too much pride to just kill them off. They want them to submit. For characters like Bradley, the reward of that far outweighs the risk. Watching someone who they consider a worthy opponent (but still view as a total inferior, which is why they usually fail), squirm, suffer, and eventually break is too far tempting a scenario.
Like always. Thanks Marik!
Edit: I thought this episode was pretty boring. But the ending was decent. Liked the backstory on King Bradley.
Last edited by LaZie; Sun, 10-04-2009 at 09:11 PM.
Really? I thought this episode was amazingly paced, one of the best yet.
I dont think there has been an episode of FMA that has not been well paced yet!!
So Ed got eaten by 2 of the homunculi. Sweet.
It was nice that Al's body understood Edward.
"After all, I am strangely colored."
-Ed's last scene was cool.
-Dang that's one screwed up country. I'm waiting to see how Lin(?)'s earlier observation will play out, that the Alchemy in this country is strange.
-You'd think with helping Scar escape and all, the Xing girl's mug would be labeled as a criminal already.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
loved this episode. they went and did a great job with the Xerxes souls. the single soul thanking Ed as it's swallowed is an absolutely deep as the sea moment. it also marks a great departure for the characters. you see so many anime good guys following their lofty morals right to a happy ending, but this time Ed had to go and use people (even if they are just souls), and didn't even subject us to much "wah, wah, wah, i don't want to have to do this"
also, any episode that has a heavy dose of my second favorite bad guy is a winner. Bradley's backstory was done very well, far outdoing its manga counterpart (as all animes should). you really get to see that he actually once was (is?) a person, like anyone else. his comment on "his soul" is a big part of my big fat Bradley theory
of course, the scene with Al and Ed in between the two Gates was done very well, as mentioned.
this remake has been doing just about everything right. it's been excellent.
i believe they showed that the guards and everyone thought she was just an innocent bystander. (except Ed and Al, who wouldn't try to get the littel girl arrested, i don't think). it was one of those comic lampshades.
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
Wow, that whole scene was amazing, especially when Ed busted his way back in .Sadly, that body seems to be near it's end. Looks like it's suffering from a lack of food among other things.
May Chang looked pretty badass fighting against those chimera. Nice to see that she can hold her own. I found the part where she imagined Alphonse as some sort of an evil monster quite amusing.
I was also amused by Shao May, being scared out of her mind the entire time they were down there with Gluttony.
Overall, I felt this was a way better episode than last's week's. I enjoyed it a lot more.
Last edited by Marik; Mon, 10-05-2009 at 02:43 PM.
Well I have to say I loved the episode. But 2 gates? Where does the other one lead to? And if Al's body could speak and understand Ed that would mean that AL lost his body AND mind, leaving only the soul behind.
Regarding Alphonse, I thought that was kind of obvious. He has a soul sealed into his armor, not a mind. The mind is how the soul and the body interface, so that means that Al's "mind" is embodied by the blood seal. You do have a point though. This was the first time (I noticed) that they made a distinction between minds and souls.
If the gates are the manifestation of the Liebnitz monad, as I imagine, one gate leads to the other, via the "the Truth" (which is the "the real world", "all at once". In other words, the Truth is a boolean lattice modeling the laws of causation)
"After all, I am strangely colored."
since Al was waiting, facing the gate opposite the one Ed emerged from, i was under the impression that the second gate was Al's gate. it would, in theory, lead back to the real world, but to Al inside the armor, which is why Al couldn't go with Ed.
i believe the reason the gates are so close together is because Ed and Al are tied together. (likely by the blood seal transmutation, which in an earlier episode they theorized could be the reason why Ed, eating and sleeping in the real world, might be able to keep Al's body alive somewhere else). This, of course, presents the possibility that EVERYBODY has a gate somewhere in that wide, wide, white space.
of course, Ed still has his own body, his own life, and when he tries to go towards Al's, it is then that his Gate opens up and pulls him back in. He is literally bound to his life, but is willing to fight against those bonds (risking his life) for Al's sake.
Note: the gates themselves are different. Ed's is quite obviously The Tree of Life as we see him ultimately swallowed up in the clearly bottom Malkuth sephirot. Al's, on the other hand, seems to almost be completely upside down from what Ed's is. I'm no expert on these kinds of things.
Note again: the fact that at least Ed's gate is The Tree of Life (the path to God, how the world was created starting at nothing) suggest quite a heavy load of philosophizing. it would in fact seem, to me, that this suggests that all humans are themselves God, and alchemists' ability to rearrange the world simply highlights this. 'The Gate of Truth' is the manifestation of God (one individual), and The Truth itself is that there is nothing but these Gates.
Note also: when the transmutation consumes Ed, we see seven separate strands of light/color winding toward one point. They are, quite clearly, Ed, Ling, and Envy. From the 'bottom to top' pan, it suggested, to me, that the bottom three are Ed, Ling, and Envy, as well as the top three. The white point they pass through on the way is, probably, the same space Ed and Al's gates appear in. There is an additional path that reaches the 'Gate', but it does not emerge from there. Quite possibly Al's.
i have almost zero idea what you mean in the end of this post. i do tend to agree with you on the first part though (particularly with Envy's line "You want to believe these souls are still human, because your brother is just a soul, too"). It's clear that Al's body, and something of his mind, are in what we saw between the gate.
I thought Ed said something along the lines of "the mind is the link between the body and soul". In this case, it seems that Al's blood seal can't simply "embody" the full mind. It can be one end of the connection (that reaching the soul), but there has to be another portion of it that is completely contained within Al's body.
One doubt remains: If both armor Al and flesh Al have portions of 'his mind', how can it be that armor Al does not known about the body portion? does the flesh Al, sitting in between the two gates know what is going on in the world? somehow i think both Als are not aware of what is going on with the other, but that implies that, like you said, armor Al and flesh Al actually have two, separate minds, one embodied in the blood seal and the other in flesh Al's head. However, if the mind is the link between the soul and the body... And now I start going in circles...
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monad_(category_theory)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_(order)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monadology
Also, can compare this idea about "The Truth" in FMA to the Buddhist Samsara or Greek Logos.
"After all, I am strangely colored."
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