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    Quote Originally Posted by poopdeville
    I liked the way Fuhrer Bradley was developed a little -- totally unlike the first series. I didn't even know he used swords until now.
    Right, that means you either didn't watch the first series or simply didn't pay attention because its really hard to miss something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    Hm, it´s still rather hard to watch for me.
    I dont like Edward, he just...seems out of place for a main character of a shounen series.

    What i really hate, though, is that they call this alchemy. What they´re doing is magic, nothing else. They talk about how you need to give something to gain something, but Edward simply puts his hands together and puts a spear out of the ground.
    Alchemy is chemistry, just with the distinct goal of chaning material into another kind of material (making gold, for example).

    I will keep watching, but so far i cannot understand the popularity of the show.
    You obviously haven't studied Chemistry very much. As often cases, getting two chemical processes is as simple as adding two reactive components together, or one reactive component with another element. The process itself will often produce enough heat or energy for chemical reactions to take place, forming new bonds and different compounds and materials.

    And what Alchemy tries to do is manipulate the elements with transmutation symbols or whatever. Alchemy is still fantasy however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by animus
    You obviously haven't studied Chemistry very much.
    Well, im in my 2nd semester, maybe thatīs not enough.

    And what Alchemy tries to do is manipulate the elements with transmutation symbols or whatever. Alchemy is still fantasy however.
    Thats just wrong. Alchemy per se is nothing fantasy-related...well, itīs goal might be, but not how itīs done. What alchemists tried was to find the right mixture of some materials to produce another, rare material. But they didnt use "transmutation symbols". It was chemistry, just with another goal in mind.

    What FMA does, however, is magic. Just magic. And like i said, ill keep watching, but it doesnt really take its own title very serious.

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    You might know a lot about chemistry, but I wonder if your view of historical alchemy is a little skewed towards legitimate science.

    Symbology was a huge part of historical alchemy. Celestial phases, astrology, metaphysics and spirituality were also included.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemical_symbol
    http://www.alchemywebsite.com/amcl_a..._material.html
    http://www.alchemywebsite.com/amclglr13.html

    FMA treats the "magical" powers of alchemy here as very much an exact science, much as historical alchemists treated their own as "science." They may have treated it as science, but it for many of them, it was fantasy all the same, they just pretended to follow the scientific method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    Right, that means you either didn't watch the first series or simply didn't pay attention because its really hard to miss something like that.
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    Poopdeville the discussion in this thread is actually pretty good so please don't ruin it by making a fool of yourself. If all you wish to do is rant about how much you hate me send me a PM, I'll enjoy reading it.
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    poopdeville (and others), please bear in mind Bud's words from the first post of the first thread:

    I'll say this now, when this start I don't want any discussion from the manga OR the old anime. It will be considered spoilers. So the spoiler rules are in place and only discussion about episodes that have been fansubbed in this particular series will be allowed.
    Digging up details from the old anime is not allowed. You are allowed to say "this is worse/better than the old series", but that's it. No details. No trivia.

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    Fullmetal Alchemist: Ep. 03

    [Shinsen-Subs]​ Fullmetal​ Alchemist​ 2​ - Brotherhood​ -​ 03​ [1280x720]
    [Shinsen-Subs]​ Fullmetal​ Alchemist​ 2​ - Brotherhood​ -​ 03​ [848x480]

    [Eclipse] Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood - 03 (h264)
    [Eclipse] Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood - 03 (xvid)


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    I'm starting to like the more lighthearted mix of humor and drama that this season has been fairly consistent using. It reminds me of Soul Eater, and makes it more enjoyable. They don't really compromise when it is time to get serious, but the simplified art and animation are very amusing.

    I'm not sure if Rose with toned-down hair is better or worse. On one hand, it's not bright pink anymore and seems more realistic, on the other hand, she still has two-toned hair and there is less of an excuse that she simply dyed her forelocks and bangs.
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    That was awesome...and hilarious!

    Except for that god awful voice saying "Fullmetal Alchemist" in the middle, it annoys the hell outta me -.-
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    i'm still not sold on how they'll just throw humor into a scene, then try to seriously deliver drama ten seconds after a joke. i also have a bone to pick with not including a certain scene, but on the whole it was decently enjoyable, even if poorly paced.

    Instead we got a "evil masquerader tries to coax the nice little civilian girl to pick up the gun and kill the good guy" standard. And the monster form at the end of the fight? seriously?

    also, can somebody teach the script writer what a "dramatic pause" is? I have never seen so many instant cuts in a dialouge.

    All in all, it was a pretty enjoyable episode, but I can't help but have enjoyed it more another time. I really liked the final scene where Cornello got killed though. The darker and action stuff is what's really appealing to me in this show so far.
    Last edited by masamuneehs; Mon, 04-20-2009 at 08:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penner
    That was awesome...and hilarious!

    Except for that god awful voice saying "Fullmetal Alchemist" in the middle, it annoys the hell outta me -.-
    I will happily watch any group who decides to edit that part out of the track.

    Pretty enjoyable episode otherwise. It's weird how you can have a stone, eve if it's fake, to have the same powers as the Philosopher's Stone. If it does indeed have the same properties, even if fake, you just need to have lots of them to accomplish your task.

    They've also only ever referred to Ed as a State Alchemist, so is Al one too? It would be cool if he is, since I want to hear about whatever name they gave him, but on the contrary, if he's not, then he's not obliged to obey orders, and can do things outside of the limitations of a State Alchemist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    Or to make it short, i prefer well explained stories and things like magical power-sources. Naruto did a great job at the beginning. Another great show on that matter would be Hunter X Hunter.
    Fair enough. I think what might have thrown you off a bit would be the first episode where the Ice Man's 'alchemy' was just way too powerful. Bear in mind though, he was using a philosopher's stone, which even in real alchemy was just a way to explain something that was impossible at that time.

    What Armstrong pulled off should be more typical of what veteran alchemists in the show are capable of. Even for these alchemists, the scale at which the Ice Man was applying his alchemy should have seemed like he was using some sort of magic to bend the rules.

    But I am not going to argue with you about alchemy being magic because you are right. In this show, alchemy is magic, but with a stronger emphasis on transmuation of matter.
    Consequently, most of the explanations will still be along the lines of 'I decomposed this', 'restructured that compound', 'modified this shape', etc. Therefore, you shouldn't expect to see glowing energy balls of willpower and stamina, which hopefully is a plus for you.
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    Al is not a state alchemist.

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    http://forums.gotwoot.net/gallery/fi...l_original.jpg

    I'm surprised I was the only one that noticed this.

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    I noticed it too, but then they panned out and revealed it was a reflection in Rose's eye rather than an animation screw up. My thoughts were, "Nice save there BONES."

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    To the untrained it seems to work, but even as a reflection it doesn't!

    Shitsen strikes again. @15:55 it says Left Arm, when clearly the voice says Migi.

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    Whoops, accidental double post had an internet hiccup. Please delete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animus
    To the untrained it seems to work, but even as a reflection it doesn't!

    Shitsen strikes again. @15:55 it says Left Arm, when clearly the voice says Migi.
    What's the correct version? I gave them a chance....maybe I'll go back to either BSS or Eclipse now. Whichever still releases it by Monday morning before I head off to uni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    What's the correct version? I gave them a chance....maybe I'll go back to either BSS or Eclipse now. Whichever still releases it by Monday morning before I head off to uni.
    Al says Migi, and Eclipse says right.

    Boy that was a slipup with animation. How do you make a mistake like that

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