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    I don't know if this has been said before, but was the entire first episode filler? I suppose they had to reintroduce the characters... but hopefully they stay true to the manga in this rendition.

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    I watched the first episode just to see YUI's new song in the OP. I didn't like the song at first, and I'm not enough of an FMA fan that the show would change my mind, but the song is growing on me, mostly because I love YUI and it's cool to see the song to animation. I imagine I'd like the song even more with a live action video from YUI.

    I never made it through the entire first series; didn't care enough about the storyline or characters. From what I can tell, almost everything is the same in this new series: the animation style, voice actors, humor, plodding storyline, characterizations, etc, just set to a new (or more manga based) storyline.

    It's like the different versions of Tenchi Muyo to me, though I liked the characters on that show enough to see all versions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    plodding storyline
    Not exactly sure how you can determine that from one episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    Not exactly sure how you can determine that from one episode.
    The episode's storyline was plodding, the previous series storyline was plodding. I extrapolated to determine the rest of this series' storyline will probably be plodding.

    Hey if I'm wrong, I'll be the first to apologize. If I'm right, life goes on.


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    Um... I was under the impression that it was starting 4-9-09...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    Based on their portfolio, Eclipse has better video quality, as well as very good subs. The general consensus is that Shinsen aren't quite up to par with them quality-wise.

    Speed: Shinsen - if they prioritise it enough. These guys are a big group who try to sub as many shows each season as they can. When they bite off more than they can chew, some shows get dropped, while others get released erratically.

    Eclipse is a much smaller group, and their release schedule has been very consistent, though not necessarily the fastest.


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    Good episode, coming from one who hasn't seen any previous material. VAs were all pretty good, and nothing felt out of place, but of course things can only be out of place if you assigned a correct place for them to begin with (for those who know each character's personality from other FMA media).

    Alphonse was a biit annoying, if anything. Not so much girly, but more kid-like.

    It's probably the art style, but some shots of Mustang's and Winry's face seemed rather squashed and square....

    Agreed with your post pretty much. Eclipse's release was quite stunning. I definitely like their quality much better.

    It is a bit weird to hear Roy Mustang's voice to be the same as Urahara/Lockon/Col Romanov's but its all good. All I can say is that the OP was awesome and it was an awesome episode!

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    Roy Mustang's animation seems to be a bit sketchy... Did anyone else notice his face is sometimes stretched out to the sides a bit and his hair looks like it was drawn in MS paint? Same with edward elric sometimes...

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    Btw., with all that hype this series is getting...can someone explain whats the big deal with Fullmetal Alchemist? I mean...not to be rude, but this first episode could as well have been a Naruto-filler episode, except for the character change, of course.

    Is it getting better?
    Or did the original FMA-series a better job in starting the whole thing? This really seemed as if it was aimed at knowledgable fans.

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    Fullmetal Alchemist: Ep. 02

    Not sure if this was supposed to be in some other already existing thread, but here it is anyway.

    subbed by Shinsen-Subs

    FMA: Brotherhood - EP 2 (720p)
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    I think because it's a better rendition of something we all at least mildly liked years ago (or were pissed that it was ruined by changes from the manga years ago).

    So a mixture of nostalgia, curiosity, or just pure enjoyment has hooked most of us.
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    Relevant quote from the episode 1 thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    Or did the original FMA-series a better job in starting the whole thing? This really seemed as if it was aimed at knowledgable fans.
    I know that this is not a popular opinion, but I think this was a perfect example that "true to the manga" does not necessarily mean better.

    The pacing on this episode sucked.

    The whole thing felt incredibly rushed, maybe that's the way it is in the manga, but that does not change that it is badly done. If you were not familiar with everyone already (hence the quote) I think you'd be fairly lost. The scene where the brothers attempted to resurrect their mother felt very cut, as if a large section was simply missing. There was also a significant rush from where Ed told the Grandma and Winry that he was going to be completely rehabilitated in a year to him taking the State Alchemist Exam.

    I have never read the manga, and if they go back to any of these later, great, otherwise this definitely felt like insider information that only fans of the original series or those who are far into the manga would be able to fill in all the gaps.


    New Winry VA is fine, no complaints, though I still preferred Megumi Toyoguchi.

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    Yeah it did feel like it fast forwarded at times.

    One more thing, i find that voice in the mid-ep-cut that says "Fullmetal Alchemist" to be incredibly....lame/annoying/tacky or whatever -.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penner
    Yeah it did feel like it fast forwarded at times.

    One more thing, i find that voice in the mid-ep-cut that says "Fullmetal Alchemist" to be incredibly....lame/annoying/tacky or whatever -.-
    Agreed very much. I am finding that I liked the other series better so far. Granted its only 2 episodes old the new series...but still.

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    It seems like they are intending to rush through most of the manga material that is covered by the other series. Looks like they are going to Lior next episode and it's possible that the whole event will ends in one episode.

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    I was very upset because the State Alchemist exam of the original series was one of my favorite parts and they completely butchered it here...

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    Yeah it seems like they are just trying to go through the overlapping parts of the manga and the previous anime as quickly as possible, which is not too bad for those who have already watched the previous series, but sucks for those who haven't. To be fair, the beginning of the original anime is pretty much the same as the manga, so if they didnt rush through it and change some stuff here and there, you would be watching the exact same episodes as the last series. So for those of you who enjoyed the previous series, you can just think of the beginning of the previous anime as how everything really started. Its an awkward way to start of the anime, but I can't really blame the producers, its a tricky business to start all over again, while making sure its still different. Depending on how they approach it, it could end up being a disaster. But I still think its worth that risk to try and recreate the manga storyline, its just that good!(at least in my opinion).

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    I am fine with exam being shortened but i do hope they will expand on after transmutation and Eds rehab.


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    i think Ryl did well bringing up MFauli's question from the first episode. there is a TON of stuff crammed into this episode, and in many ways I think it was bad to give us so much backstory without developing the characters more. Based on just these two episodes, I'd hardly care about Ed or Al at this point, much less their mom or Winry...

    They really jumped back and forth too much in this episode. They're working to set the story, but they littered this episode with tons of plot points, and didn't do well elaborating more than two of them.

    They could "go back and add more" to stuff like their training, Ed's re-training, before their mom died, about Winry's parents suddenly being dead. But I've never been a fan of delivering the main course of a backstory first, then giving the appetizers and "rounding it out" with little add-ons here and there. Always feels like poor planning to me...

    I did enjoy the scene where Mustang found the brothers. His VA is absolutely fine in my book. The part with Hawkeye was good as well. They did cut one of my favorite things out of the State Alchemist Examination part, but I absolutely love King Bradley, and so anything with him is solid gold in my book. I was on the fence about the way they did "The Truth", but that isn't the kind of thing you can easily package into an anime. Probably shouldn't have tried to put any humor in that scene...

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    The backstory was indeed glossed over. I haven't read the manga or seen the original anime, but I did know the general plot on how his mother died/Alphonse lost his body/Human transmutation etc ages ago.

    As Masa said, doing things this way really doesn't give you much emotional attachment towards the characters. Since I didn't read about Winry, I was confused. Was she just a neighbour, or a relative? How did they know her, why is she attached to Ed?

    The Truth was interesting...though I wonder why Al didn't get to know anything. From what I think happened, the decomposition/recomposition stuffed up, therefore not recomposing that basin of materials properly, and decomposing Al's body? Is it because it was a "stuff-up" that he lost his body, rather than an exchange for knowledge?

    Then how did Ed's work? It's not like he wanted to know how to do it. It just....happened.

    Meh, they better explain this soon.

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