Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood

[TwisT]

I came. That was one kickass entry by Lan Fan. And that automail was badass.

Also seem to be some insight to Prides powers. He can't use the shadow if there is no light to cast one. Also when he got that hit on GreedLin he actually bounced the shadow of the ground. Maybe it has some kind of mass and he can't actually change the "trajectory" of the shadows that easily. So instead he recoils the shadows to quickly change the path.

And the chimeras shows of some coolness. They seem to have a really great team able to fight in any environment. Also nice that Lin and Greed seem to work more and more together.

[Kraco]

This was a kickass episode for sure. One thing I'm wondering about is why Ed doesn't try to transmutate Pride's shadows. Ed's no Scar, that's true, but still he should try it when everything else fails. They can harm things so they should be made of something solid he could affect.

[Y]

This was a kickass episode for sure. One thing I'm wondering about is why Ed doesn't try to transmutate Pride's shadows. Ed's no Scar, that's true, but still he should try it when everything else fails. They can harm things so they should be made of something solid he could affect.

In order to transmute something, like Greed's armor, I think he has to know what it's made of first, even to decompose it. I doubt he knows what Pride's shadows are made of.

[kyubisrage]

Wow shits intense....... I wonder Who is dying next week..

[Ryllharu]

Heh, just when I was wondering whether she'd come back or not, she comes back in style. What's really impressive is how proficient she is with the arm in such a short time. Ed took a several months or maybe even a year. I guess Lan Fan was even more determined considering how much her honor and pride was hurt for failing to effectively protect Lin against Bradley and later being forced to leave his side. She must have gotten the arm and then rested only when she was too exhausted to stand while learning to use it.

The rest of the episode was great too. Ed punching Hoenhiem right in the face. Ed was even a lot smarter than most who have faced off with Pride. He figured out the connection to shadows fairly quick. It doesn't hurt that Pride is under orders not to kill him, but he's certainly a bit better off than most so far.

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Grumman too. I shouldn't have thought of him as some innocent old man considering his military position, but I guess I'm a little naive then. Everyone in the Amestris army has ambition, no one is purely altruistic (except maybe Armstrong, which is why his sister kicked his ass so thoroughly).

[DarthEnderX]

Heh, just when I was wondering whether she'd come back or not, she comes back in style. What's really impressive is how proficient she is with the arm in such a short time. Ed took a several months or maybe even a year. I guess Lan Fan was even more determined considering how much her honor and pride was hurt for failing to effectively protect Lin against Bradley and later being forced to leave his side. She must have gotten the arm and then rested only when she was too exhausted to stand while learning to use it.

Also to keep in mind is that Ed was just a kid when he got his automail and Lan Fan is a freaking NINJA!

[fireheart]

Well in Ed's defense he had 2 automail he had to get used to and did it in 6months while the normal time required is a year I think and this happened when he was 11(?). Also did they ever say how long the timeskip is? Since don't know if they ever said what time of the year it was when Lan Fan left or when the timeskip started. But nonetheless nice entry of her, wonder how she found them.

[Buffalobiian]

Heh, just when I was wondering whether she'd come back or not, she comes back in style. What's really impressive is how proficient she is with the arm in such a short time. Ed took a several months or maybe even a year. I guess Lan Fan was even more determined considering how much her honor and pride was hurt for failing to effectively protect Lin against Bradley and later being forced to leave his side. She must have gotten the arm and then rested only when she was too exhausted to stand while learning to use it.

The rest of the episode was great too. Ed punching Hoenhiem right in the face. Ed was even a lot smarter than most who have faced off with Pride. He figured out the connection to shadows fairly quick. It doesn't hurt that Pride is under orders not to kill him, but he's certainly a bit better off than most so far.

At first I was wonder what Ed did, since any transmutation at a distance was usually associated with Eastern Alchemy. Then after remember seeing the sparks travel across the ground I settled with that Ed busted up the ground in a continuous line all the way to the power poll. You'd need damn good accuracy to pull it off for sure, but I suppose that's plausible since I don't remember him learning Eastern.

When we only saw the blur and blades, my thoughts were seriously:

It's Al?!
It's Hoenheim?!
No.. It's Lan Fan!!

When the Elric brothers promised to introduce her to an awesome automail mechanic, I thought for sure it would have been Winry. Then, remembering how surprised (and hence impressed) her gramps was at Paninya's hidden cannon, having Dominic take on the job makes perfect sense.


edit@edit^: Having Grumman being powerhungry was surprising, but that got one-upped by having the young Miles one-up him. Given the brilliant display of deception skills last episode, that only makes our Ishbalan even more impressive.

[Ryllharu]

Well in Ed's defense he had 2 automail he had to get used to and did it in 6months while the normal time required is a year I think and this happened when he was 11(?). Also did they ever say how long the timeskip is? Since don't know if they ever said what time of the year it was when Lan Fan left or when the timeskip started. But nonetheless nice entry of her, wonder how she found them.

I think the difference is how much more proficient she seems than Ed was. Even if it took both of them 6 months (I forget how long the jump was supposed to be, winter -> spring/summer), Ed could walk and move with his arm and leg, but I wouldn't say he was really proficient with it until he and Al trained with Izumi. Lan Fan on the other hand seems to be even more powerful that she was before. She's integrated with the blade the same way Paninya was with her canon, and the huge guy at Briggs was with the crocodile arm or the claws. Ed is pretty sloppy as a fighter when he transmutes his arm into a punch blade. He's certainly better than the average person, but he gets tossed around a lot without the assistance of his alchemy. I'm not knocking Ed so much as admiring how much more impressive she appears to have become.

When the Elric brothers promised to introduce her to an awesome automail mechanic, I thought for sure it would have been Winry. Then, remembering how surprised (and hence impressed) her gramps was at Paninya's hidden cannon, having Dominic take on the job makes perfect sense.

Are we certain it is Dominic? Your logic makes perfect sense, but can we be really sure? Integrated weapons aren't something specific to them, Ed's automail (Rockbell creations) actually seems to be a bit on the uncommon side because it doesn't have some integrated weaponry. It seems to make up for it by being more powerful, more durable, and more maneuverable than the average automail. If I'm not mistaken, Dominic's was special because not only did he squeeze a cannon of all things into it, he also made it quite well rounded like Rockbell automail.

Also the grandpa had said that despite Ed and Al recommending Winry/Pinako, they will decline because by going to the Rockbell's they would be bringing an enemy into a friend's of Ed and Al's. The two of them were Enemies of the State, which would put anyone they went to potentially at risk.

[Buffalobiian]

I think the difference is how much more proficient she seems than Ed was. Even if it took both of them 6 months (I forget how long the jump was supposed to be, winter -> spring/summer), Ed could walk and move with his arm and leg, but I wouldn't say he was really proficient with it until he and Al trained with Izumi. Lan Fan on the other hand seems to be even more powerful that she was before. She's integrated with the blade the same way Paninya was with her canon, and the huge guy at Briggs was with the crocodile arm or the claws. Ed is pretty sloppy as a fighter when he transmutes his arm into a punch blade. He's certainly better than the average person, but he gets tossed around a lot without the assistance of his alchemy. I'm not knocking Ed so much as admiring how much more impressive she appears to have become.

On this topic, I've always wondered how much of Ed's non-elite fighting skills (and growth stunt) can be attributed to Winry's heavy creation of an automail. Dominic (? -> might have been someone else) could have been joking when he said it made Ed so short, or he could have been serious.

One point that really supports this was how fast Ed was when he was equipped with Northern automail. They made it sound like carbon fibre, so it being lighter makes sense. Whether such an incredible increase in Ed's speed can be from simple carbon fibre alone is debatable.

But in any case, I agree with you that Lan Fan's very proficient with her new toy. Besides determination, I see her background as a contributing factor too. As she seems to come from a lineage of guards/servants, daily training should be nothing new to her, while Ed was, back then, just a really smart kid.

Are we certain it is Dominic? Your logic makes perfect sense, but can we be really sure? Integrated weapons aren't something specific to them, Ed's automail (Rockbell creations) actually seems to be a bit on the uncommon side because it doesn't have some integrated weaponry. It seems to make up for it by being more powerful, more durable, and more maneuverable than the average automail. If I'm not mistaken, Dominic's was special because not only did he squeeze a cannon of all things into it, he also made it quite well rounded like Rockbell automail.

Also the grandpa had said that despite Ed and Al recommending Winry/Pinako, they will decline because by going to the Rockbell's they would be bringing an enemy into a friend's of Ed and Al's. The two of them were Enemies of the State, which would put anyone they went to potentially at risk.

My idea was a total assumption, yes. I completely forgot on what basis gramps declined their offer though, so you're right in that approaching anybody would have meant gramps taking back his words.

[fireheart]

I think the difference is how much more proficient she seems than Ed was. Even if it took both of them 6 months (I forget how long the jump was supposed to be, winter -> spring/summer), Ed could walk and move with his arm and leg, but I wouldn't say he was really proficient with it until he and Al trained with Izumi. Lan Fan on the other hand seems to be even more powerful that she was before. She's integrated with the blade the same way Paninya was with her canon, and the huge guy at Briggs was with the crocodile arm or the claws. Ed is pretty sloppy as a fighter when he transmutes his arm into a punch blade. He's certainly better than the average person, but he gets tossed around a lot without the assistance of his alchemy. I'm not knocking Ed so much as admiring how much more impressive she appears to have become.

Not really arguing your point but don't think Ed really had any reason to increase his abilities as a fighter or integrate his automail into his fighting style until stuff started to happen in the series. After all he's an alchemist and not a fighter so his focus most of the time has been on the alchemy part and the only reason he can fight is because Izumi made them do it while teaching them alchemy. And as Lan Fan wanted to get stronger and better at fighting so that she could fight against the homonculus it's more natural that she's stronger now.

I think Ed realized that he either have to get a lot better at fighting since Father neutralized their alchemy so he can't depend on that or learn eastern alchemy and integrate it so that he can still fight with alchemy. Which comes down to if Ed is willing to ask his dad for help to get better at alchemy.

[Penner]

I seriously thought it was Bradley that cut up Gluttony, mostly because he seems to be the the only one skilled enough to do that, while at the same time thinking "why the fuck would he do that?"

I knew Lan Fan was good but i had no idea she was that good.

[masamuneehs]

i greatly enjoyed this episode, even if the "we take over one of your friends and make you fight the body" bad guy move is one of the most overused.

the highlight for me was Grumman. not only did he show a great amount of surprisingly vicious ambition, but all his logic is rock solid (and you know he has to have a hunch about how everything is still working in the military even though Bradley is gone). I also love any guy who says "I need to see the body".

Heinkel and Darius really made this fight. Then Lin had a good entry, and, of course, Lan Fan comes to the rescue (so where's the old ninja?). Made me chuckle when Ed cried "I'm just a normal guy!" because he really is the least special of the entire group when it comes to something like this. guess it goes to show that people are totally useless when they're blind.

also, well, dudes, we don't really know Lan Fan's past, but she was definitely trained from a young age and, yeah, she's had to learn to fight with only one arm, not minus an arm and a leg, AND she's significantly older than Ed was when he got his automail. also, with The Eclipse nigh, there's not like we could get a Bleach training arc out of her...

what the fuck is hoenheim doing? get involved, dude!

[Kraco]

I'd like to note here that a kid would learn much faster to adapt to an automail than an adult that has been using a real arm for all her life already.

Still, aside from becoming a clockmaker, an arm won't slow one down quite as badly as a leg. Lan Fan can still run just as well as before. The only difference now are finer tricks that rely on hands, but slicing somebody isn't such a fine trick. She really didn't have that much to adapt to.

[DarthEnderX]

I'd like to note here that a kid would learn much faster to adapt to an automail than an adult that has been using a real arm for all her life already.

Still, aside from becoming a clockmaker, an arm won't slow one down quite as badly as a leg. Lan Fan can still run just as well as before. The only difference now are finer tricks that rely on hands, but slicing somebody isn't such a fine trick. She really didn't have that much to adapt to.

I'm sorry, I still say the biggest contributing factors are the fact that Ed's job was effectively "scientist" and Lan Fans job is "freaking NINJA!".

[Marik]

[Eclipse] Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood - 48 - HD | SD

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There's 2m:30s of extra footage after the ED theme. 21:25 - 23:55

[Sam98034]

What happend to gluttony was pure irony.

[Buffalobiian]

I was already feeling sorry for Gluttony when he was being diced up by the Xing. He's creepy and demonic at times, but otherwise he thinks like an innocent kid. Pride tearing him apart was brutal.

Ed's carbon trick was neat, though when you have so many "tentacles" at your disposal, it's hard to imagine Pride couldn't even scratch him. I guess they're still playing on the fact that Ed's got lightning speed with that Northern automail.

Likewise with Lion King. You'd think with all that talk about animal instincts, he'd know to bite off the throat/head once you've pounced your prey. They never showed Selim being cut neither, which suggests that the durability of his shadows also applies to his main body. If that's the case though, then it makes no sense for him to "die", unless you count multiple instances of spinal injury and brain slosh as death.

[Prof. Chaos]

Poor Gluttony. We never did get to see Lust come back and he was always lost without her. Though Pride was a real monster, cannibalizing him like that.

[Kraco]

It didn't surprise me in the least. Actually I'm somewhat surprised how aghast the good guys were because of it. They are homunculus, not human, after all, free of emotions save one rather negative aspect. Keeping that in mind they actually behave in a most civilized manner.

Interesting episodes. I consistently hated the homunculus fights in the old series but in this one they couldn't be more intriguing.