Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood

[masamuneehs]

Where did that thing come from in the first place? If it did come from somewhere, it might want to go back there - and needs lots of power for that purpose

So, it seems to me that Father is a tiny bit of the truth ripped out into the real world.

Putting these two together, (and putting aside the idea that what Father wants is companionship), I get a really big hunch that this would make a lot of sense as for postulating about what is going to happen with the gigantic array that Father has been building using Amestris.

Throw in "desire for companionship", and, well, he just might be planning on taking everyone along with him... He was, after all, "nice" enough to give Hoenheim a freaking immortal body (and spare his life).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus

[itadakimasu]

my patience is low.... I want it on monday-tuesday.

[itadakimasu]

This was one of the best episodes yet.

[Cal_kashi]

That episode absolutely kicked ass!

[Sam98034]

So is the "Sage of the East" Van Hoenheim? or is it the guy who made the flask of the homunculus? Apparently, whoever made the flask knew a thing or two about alchemy, right?

[DarthEnderX]

I didn't mention it last episode, but the new opening is freakin' great.


Hmm, so Ed and Al are basically half philosopher's stones. I'm sure that entitles them to at least one Shounen powerup right there.

[Belial]

One of the best episodes since the series started, so many questions answerd, so many new ones to ask

[NeoCybercoin]

I dont think it works like that Darth...

But what Pride means by being the first Homunculus was that he was the first one that was made by Father. Or the others just don't know that Father is a homunculus

[ForteCross]

So is the "Sage of the East" Van Hoenheim? or is it the guy who made the flask of the homunculus? Apparently, whoever made the flask knew a thing or two about alchemy, right?

the sage of the east and the sage of the west (can remember their names) both appeared after xerxes died. one being father and one being hoenhein.

[gos27]

I liked this Ep, explained everything much better and clearer than what i originally thought

[Buffalobiian]

I didn't mention it last episode, but the new opening is freakin' great.


Hmm, so Ed and Al are basically half philosopher's stones. I'm sure that entitles them to at least one Shounen powerup right there.

Father's and Hoenheim's bodies are made of souls and stuff. Basically, they're not human, as the people of Xing have noticed. Scar's failed "human destruction" move proves this.

Seems like their sperm is relatively intact, if not just a super-soul-charged version that survives nukes and spermicides, resulting in quite the human Ed and Al.

What makes this episode all the weirder is that if Father is indeed part of the Truth, how is it that it doesn't know about Eastern Alchemy?

That either leaves the Little Guy In The Flask as something other than the Truth, or the Truth really isn't as God-like as we thought.

[masamuneehs]

What makes this episode all the weirder is that if Father is indeed part of the Truth, how is it that it doesn't know about Eastern Alchemy?

That either leaves the Little Guy In The Flask as something other than the Truth, or the Truth really isn't as God-like as we thought.

I think this goes back to when Mei and Marcoh spoke about the differences between Amestrian alchemy and Xing alchemy. Mei said that Xing/Eastern alchemy "uses the Earth", while Amestrian alchemy, for all intents and purposes, uses human souls.

The original Homunculus has no idea how it came to be, where it came from. All it knows is that it has Hoenheim's blood. While it mentors Hoenheim (and, from the flashback, much of Xerxes) about alchemy, it itself is a manifestation brought forth via human sacrifice.

Basically, Father does not know anything that hasn't been made through humans. He was "born" using human material. He gained a body from using human material, and he and the Amestrian military have been focusing on human transmutation alot.

Fact is, Father was surprised as hell that Scar and Mei could use their alchemy. It's almost as alien a concept to him as the "family" that Hoenheim talks to him about.

The funny thing about "The Truth" and "The Gate" is that you have to go to one side of the Gate to meet "the truth". But on the other side of that ridiculous boundary, there is teh world of Individuality.

Father knows alot about the real world, but at the same time he really doesn't. If he is from the Truth ("The Singular"), I don't think that means he really understands the world of humans ("The Many"). It might take a human to realize that "All individuals are just one thing (The Truth)" but why not an exact opposite side, that something from beyond the Gate might have to struggle to fully understand the part about "One is all".

[Sam98034]

This isn't a spoiler since it has nothing to do with the new anime or the manga, but they had some kind of movie after the first series was over that showed what was on the other side. Basically, it was our world. The original premise of the show is some alternate reality where alchemy took off back in the day instead of getting debunked, leading to the regular science we have now. So Ed went to Europe in late 1800s early 1900s when he went to the other side.

As far as this show, I think it might get really religous as to what is behind the door. Whatever it is, I have a feeling it will probably be pretty dark.

someone neg repped me...how exactly is that a spoiler?

[Marik]

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[Jessper]

Neat stuff.

I wonder if Ed will steal the stone and bring Al back to the real world soon. I always expected that to happen at the end of the series but it is clearly quite urgent at this point. Though Hohenheim last episode said that the organs taken from Izumi (Master) could not be restored as they were proof of her sins, is this a fundamental truth or just a rule of his own? I wonder if the physical material taken from them is gone forever and would have to be reconstructed through more human alchemy, of course requiring a philosopher's stone.

[Cal_kashi]

Jesus, that was an intense scene.
Good episode.

[Buffalobiian]

I can't believe I somewhat found May-chan annoying when she was first introduced. I adore her now.

I liked how they portrayed Ed's "softness" as a weakness for much of the episode, foreshadowing what ultimately came. In the end though, it's more like a double edged sword, the effectiveness of which depends on the proportion of people with similar morals (or can be converted to such).

[NeoCybercoin]

I thought that God really hated Ed when he used his own life to close the wound only for the guys to find the Philosopher stone a few minutes later. But overall good ep. I think Ed's physical state could also have something to do with Al being drawn in. I mean when Ed was practically dying Al fell down as well. And since it is Ed's blood that made the transmutation circle on the armor. It wouldn't be that far fetched to say that they are connected like that.

Oh and I hope we get to see Hohemheim vs Pride next week.

[masamuneehs]

i loved this episode and i didn't. they've been taking their sweet time through this arc, and I thought the action could have been a little more intense. I mean, remember the Wrath vs. Greed fights? or even some of the first fights with Scar?

Yoki made this episode for me.

it would seem to me that Al is really dependent on Ed. like NCC said, not only is Al's blood crest made with Ed's blood, but they had a theory a bunch of episodes back about Ed's sleep and nutrition partly going to maintain Al's body beyond the Gate (a theory I buy at full retail price)

I am really, really, really confused about what Hoenheim said regarding Izumi's wounds. If she can't get those organs back, then, by the same logic, Ed can't get his limbs back, and Al can't get his body back. Since Hoenheim is basically the biggest Philosopher's Stone ever made, and a top level alchemist, it makes me wonder what exactly in the blue blazes they'd need to atone for these "sins".

i was never a big fan of this near death scene, partly because it doesn't make any sense to me for Ed to be able to use part of his life force when he's so close to death. a guy who's almost dead shouldn't have that much life force...

i also just despise "hero is severely wounded by OBJECT. Will he survive?" a fucking steel girder is not going to take down a shounen protagonist. the tension is just not there for me in scenes like that. i will admit, however, that it is good to see how people act in that situation, since Ed himself doesn't know he's a main character. like Bill said, the fact that he saved the chimera is probably what saved his life, and that kind of "softness" is one of his biggest aids.

[Marik]

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