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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster
    A) Please tell me you saw the 3 hours extended version. I did some days ago, and it felt so much more awsome than the last time i saw it.

    B) Read the comics, do yourself a favor.

    C) SOME movies are better than it`s book version... just saying...
    The one I saw was about 2hrs 35 minutes long, the DVD release of the movie. I didn't know there was an extended version out when I rented the movie.

    I'm looking into getting the graphic novel. It's $12 on Amazon.com.

    Actually I remember now, but Forrest Gump the movie was much better than the book. I'm sure there are others too, so I stand corrected.


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    I think it's better to watch the movie first, because most of the people who have read the novel before watching the movie seem to be less satisfied with the movie..

    ..maybe reading the novel at this point will seem like an enlightening experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire
    I think it's better to watch the movie first, because most of the people who have read the novel before watching the movie seem to be less satisfied with the movie..

    ..maybe reading the novel at this point will seem like an enlightening experience.
    Confirming this. I read the comic after I saw the movie and appreciated it even more.

    I actually watched the Director's Cut this weekend, with all the extra footage and whatnot. Some of it was really worthwhile and some of it was dumb.

    Depicting what happened to Hollis Mason - great. Should have been left in the theatrical cut

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    I'm trying to figure out, but what super powers do most of the Watchmen possess? From the movie, it seems they all have some super-human strength, speed, and they all know martial arts. Other than that, only Dr. Manhattan has any real super powers. And maybe the moth guy who went to the insane asylum can fly.

    And what's the significance of Rorschach's face mask changes? Is that a special ability of some kind?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    I'm trying to figure out, but what super powers do most of the Watchmen possess?

    And what's the significance of Rorschach's face mask changes? Is that a special ability of some kind?
    They don't.

    That was kind of the point. The graphic novel was written as a sort of reaction to superhero archetypes. They are all normal people with normal limitations, that either have neat gadgets (Nite Owl II), lots of guns (Comedian), martial arts training (Laurie and Viedt), or are just plain determined (Rorschach). All except for one.

    Dr. Manhattan. He is what would happen in a real world if superpowers existed. They would be exploited by the powers that be for war and agendas, but still be more or less a god. It sets them apart from humanity, and slowly drives them away.
    (Well, Viedt is a genius too, but that's within normal limits)

    Now the movie on the other hand...made it look like Nite Owl and Laurie had super strength with all the exploding limbs on the street gang. That's not in the comic book. They just stab them with their own weapons, mabye fracture a few arms, and break some noses, but it isn't as over the top as the movie makes it seem. Viedt is pretty athletic though, he smacked that assassin into the fountain pretty hard, but he knocks the guy only a few feet in the book, not the 5-10 feet the movie shows. The movie exaggerated the fights quite a bit.


    As for Rorschach's mask, they skip it in the theatrical release of the film and I don't know about the extended cut, but he cuts it out of a special order dress that was rejected because the customer thought the dress was ugly. It's a special fabric with two different fluids floating between the layers of latex. It's "heat and pressure sensitive" (Chapter 6, page 10), so it reacts to his breathing, expressions, and physical states (moods, exertion, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    And maybe the moth guy who went to the insane asylum can fly.

    Nop, the only super power he had was alcoholism wich caused him mental illness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster
    Nop, the only super power he had was alcoholism wich caused him mental illness.
    Yes but he had wings on his costume. Are you saying they were nonfunctional? I'd find that hard to believe that a superhero would have nonfunctional elements to his costume.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu

    Now the movie on the other hand...made it look like Nite Owl and Laurie had super strength with all the exploding limbs on the street gang. That's not in the comic book. They just stab them with their own weapons, mabye fracture a few arms, and break some noses, but it isn't as over the top as the movie makes it seem. Viedt is pretty athletic though, he smacked that assassin into the fountain pretty hard, but he knocks the guy only a few feet in the book, not the 5-10 feet the movie shows. The movie exaggerated the fights quite a bit.
    I thought Ozymandias was at least enhanced by technology or something. Was the death of the comedian at the beginning exaggerated in the movie too? In the movie they commented on how strong the glass was (the one that the comedian was thrown out of).

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    Quote Originally Posted by animus
    I thought Ozymandias was at least enhanced by technology or something. Was the death of the comedian at the beginning exaggerated in the movie too? In the movie they commented on how strong the glass was (the one that the comedian was thrown out of).
    Yeah, in the comic the entire fight isn't shown. You just see a flashback here and there as the police investigate the scene. The movie drags it out and adds in the super-brick-breaking-strength.

    That was one of the movies worst flaws. The "superheroes" were too super. Definitely confused a few friends of mine, and probably turned a lot of people off of the movie. All expecting the next Iron Man or Hulk and just getting a dingy little fight in a back alley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    Yes but he had wings on his costume. Are you saying they were nonfunctional? I'd find that hard to believe that a superhero would have nonfunctional elements to his costume.
    I beleive most if not all of the minutemen were suposed to look corny, and technically, night owl II`s cape is a wing, him resembling an owl and all.

    Quote Originally Posted by animus
    I thought Ozymandias was at least enhanced by technology or something. Was the death of the comedian at the beginning exaggerated in the movie too? In the movie they commented on how strong the glass was (the one that the comedian was thrown out of).
    Yeah, they just show him being bitchslaped in some parts, but the glass part is the same if i remember correctly.
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