Naruto Chapter 408

[Abdula]

There is so much that can be said but I'll try not to make this too long...hahaha

Actually I think it's been said many times that as more tails get added, the capacity of chakra and power goes up exponentially with each tail. So I think that can be laid to rest soon after Sasuke and team hawk meet the 8 tails. And then again when the rest of the akatsuki invade Konoha for the 9 tails and Naruto.

That only applies to Naruto because the number of tails he is able to access represents how much of the Kyuubi's power he is using, you can't apply that to anything other than Naruto. Secondly how is anything going to be laid to rest after we see the eight tails fight. Even if he is extremely powerful we haven't seen any of the other bijuu fight so we have nothing to compare it to. Naruto can't control the Kyuubi you said so yourself and we can't judge what shukaku's level of chakra is because we didn't really get to see him in action, Naruto woke Gaara up and that dispelled the jutsu that didn't defeat shukaku it merely dispelled the jutsu. We have no idea what else he has.

He's strong because his brother and Orochiumaru made him that way. Yes he was the all star rookie when he graduated, but that doesn't mean shit now. 80% of what he has came from those two men training him. And don't pull the "so what if they trained him, now he's stronger because of it" bullshit on me. Yes he has EMS now and yes he's part of the akatsuki, but he can't compare to someone like Kisame, Madara, Pein or Konan. Most seem to think that he's the one to be the next god because of his eyes (once again that his brother gave him) One top of all that. People think that he's jounin level and that he's the level of Kakashi or other jounins in other countries. That fucked up right there. You all need to stop and take a look around. He just got back from training with Orochimaru and Kishi is already having him take orders from Madara on getting some bijuu for him.

Wait I don't get this, so you don't think Sasuke is strong because Oro and Itachi made him that way and you completely disregard his EMS because Itachi gave it to him, yet you still say Kakashi is some great ninja. Wait wasn't kakashi trained by his father, who was on the same level as the sannin, since birth and then after his father died he was trained by the fourth. Come to think of it wasn't Kakashi given Obito's sharingan, I mean atleast with Sasuke we can say that its his own bloodline limit.

1. Kakashi ripping off Diedaras arm with his sharingan
2. The 2nd and Kisame making lakes from just clapping their hands together
3. Gaara fighting in the sky with Diedara and tracking him down with his sand
4. The 3rd being able to keep up with Orochimaru during the fight even in his old age
5. Diedara being able to keep up with Gaara and also being able to create animals from just clay as well as giving them the ability to blow up
6. the old man 4th jinchuriki being able to create lots of elemental fusions
7. Kakashi keeping up with Itachi when he and Kisame visited the first and knowing they were at the bar talking earlier (now that's a man who could be called jounin at age 9 in my opinion
8. 4th sealing the 9 tails in his son
9. the 1st being able to control (repress whatever the fuck you want to call it) the bijuu with out the use of the Sharingan at his disposal.
10. the 1st also being able to summon and make 3 different types of jutsus. Earth water and from them, wood
11. Madara (and yes I know Sasuke probably has this ability now too) being able to command and control the Uchiha members during the Senju and Uchiha wars like they were his soldiers.
12. anyone who the village ninjas think is Kage material (except Tsunade, I'll never get how that happened. Or why they wanted Jiraiya)
13. the 4ths flash step move

1. Lemme see this, EMS>MS right but you don't think Sasuke is stronger than kakashi. Kakashi ripped off Deidara's arm but Sasuke forced him to blow himself up yet Kakashi is still stronger than Sasuke.
2. What the hell does water jutsu have to do with anything, Sasuke can make freaking lightning bolts fall from the sky and you're talking about water jutsu.
3. Deidara beat Gaara, Sasuke beat Deidara and the big deal here is tracking him down with his sand, did you not see any of the things sasuke did to deidara during that battle. What the X ray vision, seeing chakra, genjutsu, and deactivating his bombs doesn't beat tracking him down with sand.
4. So Sasuke owning Oro didn't mean anything or the fact that Sasuke was able to go toe to toe with Itachi the man who run Oro out of Akatsuki.
5.Sasuke beat Deidara and Deidara didn't even pull half the stuff on Gaara that he did on Sasuke.
6. Where is your point here, him being able to mix elements was as a result of the abilities his bijuu gave him and you didn't even see any of that happen so why are you talking about it.
7. This one is a good one. So all that fighting and high speed taijutsu Sasuke and Itachi did in the beginning of their fight meant nothing nor does the fact that Sasuke completely defeated Itachi's Tsukiyomi something Kakashi wasn't even able to do. How does knowing they were at the bar even mean anything. All three noticed the two suspicious guys in black robes you'd have to be an idiot not to, and he didn't even know who they were which is why he just made Asuma and Kurenai tail them. Anyway did I mention that Kakashi lost to Tsukiyomi and he would have probably been taken by Itachi if Gai hadn't shown up because that is big. What is with this keeping up thing anyway if I remember correctly Kakashi was struggling just to follow Itachi's movements and he was on the defensive for that entire battle he didn't even get an attempt at offense.
8. Wait, what.
9. What does without the use of the sharingan have to do with anything. The sharingan is a kekkai genkai, the first had a kekkai genkai that gave him that ability what difference does it make and what does being able to control the bijuu have to do with the first's actual strength.
10. Again Kekkai Genkai.
11. WTF. They were his soldiers, he was the leader of the Uchiha clan just as the first was the leader of the Senju clan
12. This doesn't make any god damn sense. You say anyone that the village thinks is Kage material but then you exclude the current hokage. How does being Kage material mean anything anyway everyone in the village thinks Naruto is kage material but yet Sasuke is leagues ahead of Naruto which is why Naruto was always training to catch up to him. By the way Asuma mentioned that he thought shikamaru was kage material, you're not going to tell me that based on that you think Shikamaru is stronger than Sasuke.
13. Flashsteps didn't help his ass against the Kyuubi now did it.

Anyway since people tend to confuse things I'll just say that this isn't a personal attack or anything. I wanted to say that I disagree with what you said and I don't see what you're basing any of this on. I don't see how you can say you don't consider Sasuke to be Akatsuki level when he already defeated two akatsuki members, you can question whether it was a true defeat or not if you want but fact is he beat two of them(three if you count Oro). Plus the fact that Sasuke is in akatsuki pretty much answers the question of whether he is on their level or not. I think you just need to think a little bit more before you post, your long posts in the One Piece forum are a fun read, here not so much.