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    Now Sharingan doubles as a Geass? Okay.

    WHen did they start letting black people into the Narutoverse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage
    I can't pinpoint why exactly.....but I didn't like this chapter at all....maybe it'll come to me later.
    Same here.
    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    Holy shit Sasuke's Atom-Sharingan looks dumb. It's like Kishimoto is trying to incorporate all his old Sharingan sketches that never made the cut into the manga before it ends.
    Yes, yes, yes we've gone down this road before.

    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    It also gives everyone else more time to "decipher" the code.

    And by "decipher" I mean "realize the obvious". Are we really going to have to wait until Naruto's done training for them to figure out what it means while simultaneously coming up with the results from the autopsy?
    Yes, exactly....
    Quote Originally Posted by chet_chetty
    Also it seems like the 8-tails has attained the most realized control and power out of his bijuu compared to all the other jinchurikis, including Naruto. The fact that he goes in and out of his released form at will, as docdan pointed out, is proof of that.
    Um, the two tailed could transform at will, so could the four tailed guy I'm sure, hell so could Gaara so thats not proof of anything except for the fact that naruto is a noob.

    I can't believe that you guys honestly believed that Oro would be the eight tails. Yes as I've said before Oro was my favorite character but come on, are you guys idiots. As I've said before there are any number of reasons proving that Oro wasn't the eight tails first and foremost being that he was in Akatsuki. Anyway so you guys would have actually wanted to see Immortal Oro, Oro in Sasuke's body, Kabutoro and still want Oro to be the eight tails that's just too much. He was my favorite character and even I didn't want to see anymore of him after he lost to Sasuke. If Kishi used him anymore it would have been ridiculous, and he would have missed the opportunity to introduce a new character.

    Anyway if Naruto trains for a week and somehow manages to surpass Jiraiya who trained with the toads for years then...... I can't even finish this sentence because the idea is so absurd.
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    Wasn't the 2-tails also from the lightning country? I thought she said she was like, the strongest one in the cloud village.

    Well, ok...I can't find where she says she's the strongest...but she is indeed from the cloud village
    http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...3/page005.html
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    Actually what she said was that she was the second strongest ninja in the village, I guess we now know who number one is.

    -Ah here it is.
    Strange that of the four scanlations I checked only one group had it.

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    Anyway if Naruto trains for a week and somehow manages to surpass Jiraiya who trained with the toads for years then...... I can't even finish this sentence because the idea is so absurd.
    You'll still come back for your fix. Just because we know the crack is bad and even when it hurts us, we still have to have it. As long as Kishi provides the (absurd) plot twists and keeps characters we like doing things that hint at other things things we'll just keep lighting the pipe.

    I seriously hope Naruto ends up staying with the Frogs for a more appreciable amount of time than a week, maybe there'll even be another time skip after Sasuke beats the eight tails guy (I really hope that takes more than one-two chapters of staring) and Pain kills [Insert Important Konoha Ninja] looking for Naruto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docdan63
    So his eye looks like an atom, big deal. Maybe it was an artistic look he was going for.
    Well of course it was an artistic look he was going for. That's why he drew it. It doesn't mean it doesn't look goofy and ridiculous to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    Shit about Orochimaru not being the 8 tails
    What can I say? Orochimaru was such an unnatural character I thought the only explanation would be that he was a Jinchuriki, or possibly even the 8 tailed beast incarnate. The 8 tailed beast is a snake/hydra demon in the mythology and I thought Orochimaru had got himself some 8 tails action at an early age and had successfully hidden that fact from Akatsuki. I was always skeptical about it, but his fight with Itachi made me actually consider it. I also thought it would be a convenient way to work Kabuto back into the plot if he had suddenly become the 8 tails Jinchuriki.

    In any case I like the look of the black guy. Something about him seems really imposing, so I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a while for Sasuke to kill him. I always assumed the Tailed Beasts' power was proportionate to their tails, which is why Naruto has such a hard time controlling Kyuubi. If this guy can control the 8 tails with relative ease he's probably one to be reckoned with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joker-kun
    This is probably just me trying to give Kishi some undeserved credit, but I think the Toad knew but for some reason kept it to himself, maybe for Naruto or something. Doesn't make much sense I know, but why the fuck would he bother with a flashback if he didn't think it had some indication.
    I like this theory. At the very least it's a better excuse than "this message makes no sense derrrrr" and that's cool with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    In any case I like the look of the black guy. Something about him seems really imposing, so I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a while for Sasuke to kill him. I always assumed the Tailed Beasts' power was proportionate to their tails, which is why Naruto has such a hard time controlling Kyuubi. If this guy can control the 8 tails with relative ease he's probably one to be reckoned with.
    Just to clarify thats an incorrect assumption. Although the Kyuubi and eighttails are the strongest and second strongest respectively, the power of the tailed beasts is not based on their number of tails.
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    A bijuu's power (chakra amount) isn't respective to the number of tails it has? I dont remember any indication proving otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Heretic Azazel
    WHen did they start letting black people into the Narutoverse?
    At least Kishi didnt give him ridiculously oversized lips.

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    Well, it never explicitly stated that the Bijuu's powers are respective to their tails either. It's not an ironclad theory, merely an assumption based on Naruto's own level of power with his increase in tails. Kyuubi, having the most tails, has also been called the most powerful beast multiple times. Gaara on the other hand, the one tails, was comparatively weak fully transformed.

    Chiyo said the Bijuu have different characteristics based on their number of tails, which could mean anything from "their power increases with the number of tails" to "Each one has one more tail than the last".

    It's not something I'd base an argument on, but is something that would make sense if it were explained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    Just to clarify thats an incorrect assumption. Although the Kyuubi and eighttails are the strongest and second strongest respectively, the power of the tailed beasts is not based on their number of tails.
    it isn't? my pokemon memory says that the power of the fox demon (vulfix and ninetails) is represented by the tail number... while it may not be the same with other demons, it sounds logical enough (then again, we get back to the argument about Zabuza and Kisame, where logic lost).

    anyways, I'm going to call the 8tails Kratos, as in GoW kratos, since they both give off the same murderous vibe...

    I really hope that Sasuke can't kill Kratos, it'll be such a let down, if after going through the entire jinukrichi set, we are still stuck with Naruto and Gaara (did we ever find out what happened to him? dead? alive? zombie?) as infulencial charecters.
    it's been ages since we got another guy to the Naruto-team... I think Sai was the last good guy, and since then we only had Madare and Payne...

    I think it's time one of the snake\falcon\akatsuki rookies kicks the bucket (or gets seriously injured) fighting Kratos, so Sasuke has to pull out (before using his sharingan shananigans and deusEXing his way to victory).

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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    EDIT: In before Abdula "YOU GUYS ARE ALL IDIOTS I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU REALLY THINK THAT WAY GOD"
    Huh? and I got neg repped too. What the hell?

    Anyway, yeah I'm hoping we'll get to see another Jinchuuriki hanging around but I don't think that can happen at this point. If we were introduced to them earlier it would have been great but the series is winding down and Kishi is trying to tie everything together so I highly doubt any Jinchuuriki's are getting away if Gaara didn't. I don't even know why Kishi brought Gaara back to life if we were never going to see him again. If he's not going to use him again he should have just left him dead and it would have been yet more motivation for Naruto and the others to go after Akatsuki. That one is really strange because right after he brought him back to life he started killing of people left and right.

    Anyway I doubt this encounter with the eight tails will serve anymore purpose than showing off Sasuke's new found strength. Beyond that if Kishi is really following the mythology an Eighttails-Kyuubi/Sasuke-Naruto confrontation is inevitable.
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    Gaara was brought back to life, because unlike the characters that died after him, Gaara can sell keychains and T-shirts. Of the people who did die, only Jiraiya and Deidara were merchandise sellers. Akatsuki badguys had to die otherwise he'd lose all credibility as a story teller, Same for Jiraiya. Now, while Jiraiya's death was sad, it's expectation made it bearable.. It's an optimization problem: "How do I sell the maximum number of t-shirts and key chains while remaining a credible enough story teller to sell t-shirts and keychains?"

    Yeah, I'm not too fond of the assumptions going around that the 8-tailed Jinchuuruki is currently the strongest. It's just too baseless. Without knowing what kind of powers he has, all you're left with is an impression.

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    I can't see a reason why not, he obviously is stronger than Naruto (let's face it, who isn't stronger than Naruto nowdays?) and Gaara isn't a host anymore, which makes Kratos, automatically the strongest one, since he and Naruto are the only ones left alive.

    yes, the bijuu's were all defeated by turds in the akatsuki, who were in turn defeated by turds like Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke and shikamaru. way to go, kishimonto. you're portraying a perfect scale of power, there's so much left for the teenager kids to look up to.

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    It would be senseless to assume this last jinchuriki isnt the most powerful. One, why wouldnt Kishi save the most powerful for last? Meaning it would be pretty stupid if Kishi saves this jinchuriki/bijuu for last only for it to be weak and easily beatable. What kind of suspense would be built for Sasuke and Hawk's ensuing fight with the 8-tails if he wasnt the most powerful? And why would Akatsuki target the 8-tails last (besides Naruto) if he wasnt the most powerful? Obviously those of us saying he is the most powerful are not basing it on the few panels he's been in.

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    The problem with this not being based on what you know of the eight tails, is this: take away the last few panels, and you'd have the same conclusion. Knowing nothing of the demon other than it's tail number, nothing of the Jinchuruki who controls it, nothing of where he's from, nothing of what he looks like, and certainly nothing about his techniques or fighting ability, you reach same conclusion. He is the strongest. This amounts to you reading the writer's mind. He's strongest because he's last. He's strongest because it builds suspense. Not very compelling arguments I must say.Not by themselves anyway.

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    The last and most powerful Jinchuuriki is and ofcourse will be Naruto. Now as for this one I don't really care and senseless kinda does describe how Kishi does things now doesn't it. I mean why was the capture of the two and four tails done off screen and why why did we not see any of the other jinchuuriki's at all. Anyway I'm convinced that the only reason we are even seeing any of this is because of Kishi's obsession with Sasuke, if it was someone else going after the eight-tails I doubt we would be seeing anything at all.

    Anyway yeah he is probably going to be really strong but that still isn't going to stop him from getting owned by Sasuke and yeah since there are only two Jinchuuriki left you could call him the strongest all you want but he is still gonna get beaten by Hawk.
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    If the eight tails gets owned within seconds by the MS i'm gonna buy a trip to Japan and kick Kishi's ass.
    Btw someone clear a question for me, wasn't the MS's genjutsu supposedly on the left eye and the ninjutsu on the right one? So that thing Sasuke did was a ninjutsu?

    I don't understand the code, me retarded ( OMFG!! ). There is some evidence, with the fucking obvious flashback and all, that the toad sage really did understand the meaning behind the code but decided to keep it to himself for some reason but then again i'm just probably being hopeful...

    As for the bijuus power i don't think we can say anything for certain except that the nine tails is the strongest of them all, although it would make sense that their level of power is equivalent to the number of tails they possess we have no proof of that.

    Gz to the first guy who said the toad sage was going to be the next pokemon trainer, but even with the kage bunshin method how much of an upgrade are we looking at here? Also, we'll we get to see this training or will the moves be shown in the fight against pain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chet_chetty
    A bijuu's power (chakra amount) isn't respective to the number of tails it has? I dont remember any indication proving otherwise.



    At least Kishi didnt give him ridiculously oversized lips.
    His look reminds me of Dutch from Black Lagoon. Only he's probably infinitely less badass
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    I believe as far as youma mythologies go, the 8th and 9th tails were the only demons of notable rank above all the others, and the 9th was the strongest. So this doesn't mean that Gaara's was the weakest, just that Gaara's was weaker than the last two remaining ones.
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    At this point I don't even expect Sasuke to break a sweat. I mean the Sharingan's entire purpose is to copy ninju, no..to slightly hypnotize opponen....ummm...to see high-speed movemen...err...to copy taijut...wait...to see chak...uhh...to do high level genju....umm...to do high-level ninju..to control bijuu! That's it, he can suppress them just like Yamato but infinitely easier. If Madara controlled the nine-tails in it's "pure" form I'm sure God, I mean Sasuke, will have no problem with the eight when it's boiund in a human.

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