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Last edited by Marik; Fri, 07-11-2008 at 01:20 AM.
So the 8 tails is a vulgar black guy...didn't see that one coming at all. But kudos to whoever said that Naruto was gonna do the toad training. I kind of thought that he'd go that route too but I didn't expect it so soon. And I wonder if his orfficial rank will ever improve. He's still technically a genin.
I can't pinpoint why exactly.....but I didn't like this chapter at all....maybe it'll come to me later.
I just want to say again... Sasuke's eyes look fucking retarded.
Naruto's growth gets lamer and lamer. First, Naruto goes train with Jiraiya for about 3 years, doesn't learn a thing. Second, we're introduced with hax bunshin training which Naruto learns only a new move. And now, apparently hax bunshin training isn't good enough so he'll be training with that toad. Seriously... Why does Naruto(the character) have to be so freaking stupid that he can't train by himself.
He better utilize that hax training with the toad.
Ok, a comment here...I think this is Naruto's last shot at gaining some skill that doesn't involve him looking incredibly stupid before winning a fight. 1 week to train with this sage combined with the training method that kakashi came up with can make this happen in a realistic fashion (hahahahahahahaHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahahaLOL!... *cough* disbelief suspended). I don't see how the story has anymore room to fit more Naruto power ups. I can't think of a more prolific trainer than someone like the frog sage, who trained Jiraiya AFTER the third did. I'm hoping Naruto learns some seal Jutsu.
There really wasn't anything else interesting at all to this chapter. Some "new" sharingan power's been shown. Big whoop.
edit @ above: You can't fault that he's learned only one jutsu with the training method kakashi taught him. There hasn't been time. He trained to create the technique, had to use it in battle before it was complete, had to recover from the injuries it caused him, and then had this mission to go after Sasuke. I agree with everything else though.
Holy shit Sasuke's Atom-Sharingan looks dumb. It's like Kishimoto is trying to incorporate all his old Sharingan sketches that never made the cut into the manga before it ends. How many is this now, 5? That said, I really love the artwork for the Land of Clouds on page 7. Looks like exactly how a "sky city" should.
I'm glad Naruto's gonna train with the frog guy. I think everyone saw that coming a mile away, so I'm glad it's actually gonna happen.
Someone help me understand what's so "vague" about Jiraiya's message. There must be something in the translation, because it seems absolutely straight-forward to me.
Also how is Orochimaru not the 8 tails? I was honestly shocked by that.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
i really dont like sharingan now. Its just so excessively lame. Its like when you play pretend with the kid who cant stop making up powers as u go along. Its just no fun.
i understand how seigetsu and jugo wheere able to enter akatsuki but how in the world did the girl get in shes probably the same as sakura....
I don't. I don't think any of them is good enough to join the group for any mission Madara gives them or match any of the akatsuki's skills. They're all just little brat kids. Sasuke isn't even strong enough to join in my opinion. Yes he beat his brother, but that was at his limit busting out new moves at random. So don't pull the whole EMS, he beat his brother, wtf are you talking about docdan crap on me. Because I know what I'm saying.Originally Posted by deathnote-fan
About the bijuu and their hosts. Yeah for the last time. I'll only explain this once to read it well and carefully. The reason I started this whole firestorm of posting lately about the 8 tials being stronger is because he is. Naruto isn't stronger because he's like a giant lake. Not a lake, a giant deep lake. But a lake with no ripples and no waves at all. Very calm. This new 8 tails is like the same lake, but with a series of fire hoses ready to go at any time, and at his own controlled will. So, lets do some math.
If every bijuu gets stronger as tails get added (from Gaara to Naruto), then by definition naruto should be the strongest one with out question, right? Wrong.
1. Naruto can't control anything that Kyuubi gives him
2. Is wild and crazy when even 3 tails are grown
3. young and inexperienced on how to even begin to have a master slave/best friends relationship with his bijuu.
4. because of reason 3, doesn't have the ability to tap 100% of the potential that the 8 tails obviously has. With out the ability and power to control his bijuu, he's just a well of power and Kyuubis bitch. Until then, thats all Naruto is.
5. Because of reason 4, and the rule that every bijuu gets stronger as the tail count goes up, doing the math, right now, the 8 tails is the strongest one.
Thats all I can come up right now. Thats the best I can explain it.
We don't know this for sure. I only brought it up as a possibility. It's never actually been stated that the tailed beasts with more tails are stronger, and the mythology doesn't confirm this either. We know that the 8 tails is likely very strong, but he will eventually be beaten by Sasuke, so it probably doesn't even matter. The power of the other tailed beasts doesn't even factor into this now.
The rest of what you said is pretty self-explanatory for anyone who's been keeping up.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Actually I think it's been said many times that as more tails get added, the capacity of chakra and power goes up exponentially with each tail. So I think that can be laid to rest soon after Sasuke and team hawk meet the 8 tails. And then again when the rest of the akatsuki invade Konoha for the 9 tails and Naruto.
I don't have beef with people liking the new team hawk. But why does everyone thing that the kids in the series are getting stronger? They're really not. The only one that has gotten a little stronger was Shikamaru and that was because he was a genius at strategy. Juugo hasn't shown anything. No one from team konoha has shown much growth yet (if Kishi has it planned) Sakura is maybe a kick ass medic that's all and a physical fighter. And about Sasuke, I'm going to settle thing once and for all.
He's strong because his brother and Orochiumaru made him that way. Yes he was the all star rookie when he graduated, but that doesn't mean shit now. 80% of what he has came from those two men training him. And don't pull the "so what if they trained him, now he's stronger because of it" bullshit on me. Yes he has EMS now and yes he's part of the akatsuki, but he can't compare to someone like Kisame, Madara, Pein or Konan. Most seem to think that he's the one to be the next god because of his eyes (once again that his brother gave him) One top of all that. People think that he's jounin level and that he's the level of Kakashi or other jounins in other countries. That fucked up right there. You all need to stop and take a look around. He just got back from training with Orochimaru and Kishi is already having him take orders from Madara on getting some bijuu for him.
I don't know. Yeah the kid is strong but you guys are way over playing his power and skill level. By massive levels and over statements. Most of what he's done now hasn't been very strong or impressive in my book. Here some impressive things to me
1. Kakashi ripping off Diedaras arm with his sharingan
2. The 2nd and Kisame making lakes from just clapping their hands together
3. Gaara fighting in the sky with Diedara and tracking him down with his sand
4. The 3rd being able to keep up with Orochimaru during the fight even in his old age
5. Diedara being able to keep up with Gaara and also being able to create animals from just clay as well as giving them the ability to blow up
6. the old man 4th jinchuriki being able to create lots of elemental fusions
7. Kakashi keeping up with Itachi when he and Kisame visited the first and knowing they were at the bar talking earlier (now that's a man who could be called jounin at age 9 in my opinion
8. 4th sealing the 9 tails in his son
9. the 1st being able to control (repress whatever the fuck you want to call it) the bijuu with out the use of the Sharingan at his disposal.
10. the 1st also being able to summon and make 3 different types of jutsus. Earth water and from them, wood
11. Madara (and yes I know Sasuke probably has this ability now too) being able to command and control the Uchiha members during the Senju and Uchiha wars like they were his soldiers.
12. anyone who the village ninjas think is Kage material (except Tsunade, I'll never get how that happened. Or why they wanted Jiraiya)
13. the 4ths flash step move
Those are some of the things I actually tihnk are worth getting frothy over. The things that you people think are impressive aren't really that impressive at all.
Last edited by docdan63; Sat, 07-12-2008 at 04:31 PM.
I get the feeling that he's only going to train for a week. If that's the case, and he becomes ridiculously strong, then I might actually start ranting on the message board too. I mean, sure KBJ can give him an edge, but Jiraiya was with them for YEARS.
Well, he hadn't done the Kage Bunshin training with Jiraiya. It does raise the question of "What the fuck was he doing for 3 years??" but everyone's already had a go at that.
I think a week of Frog training using Kage Bunshin could at least teach him some new Frog Jutsu. Maybe, just maybe, he'll emerge as the kind of badass we wanted him to be post-timeskip.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
That would be a big suspension of belief, even for Naruto. I mean becoming like the terminator or something in only a week? I guess we'll see in the ensuing chapters (itll probably be like 3 months worth of training in a week's time a la the show that must never be named).
It also gives everyone else more time to "decipher" the code.
And by "decipher" I mean "realize the obvious". Are we really going to have to wait until Naruto's done training for them to figure out what it means while simultaneously coming up with the results from the autopsy?
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
This is probably just me trying to give Kishi some undeserved credit (yeah the sage toad who even had a flashback of Jiraiya talking about Negato not being there... and the message saying the real one isn't there or whatever wasn't able to figure it out - makes alot of sense), but I think the Toad knew but for some reason kept it to himself, maybe for Naruto or something. Doesn't make much sense I know, but why the fuck would he bother with a flashback if he didn't think it had some indication.
[21:48] * DO furiously masturbates to #gotwoot
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I don't know what you guys are complaining about. So his eye looks like an atom, big deal. Maybe it was an artistic look he was going for. I actually think it looks fine for him. And Kishi made him hella strong. He looked at the guy with only one eye, and he talked. That's just plain bad ass.
My main omg moment was when the Hawk group was all wearing the akatsuki robes. That was awesome to see. It's like they're the akatsuki's new recruits and are now working with them on one of their personal important missions. And to back my above paragraph, it's led by Sasuke with his new eyes people! So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
The Jinchuriki not being Oro was kind of weird, but it kind of makes more sense now. There was so much speculation about him being it, Kishi probably just said fuck, and went with something else. Him giving in to us thinking would be boring and you guys all know it. We would've packed a thread for him all saying that we expected it and Kishis a boring writer not following his own creativity. Besides, all the other Jichuriki so far have been from all other nations and villages hidden away not known by the villages themselves. It should stay that way. It makes the akatsuki seem smart and driven towards achieving their goal. They actually do research and find out where they're located.
Now about the 8 tails. He's going to be bad ass. Just plain bad ass. You can totally see Kishi writing it that way, which by the way is fine by me. It was also really cool how they showed a bit of him training and retracting his "animal form". Also, yeah, he's not a snake like we all thought. He's an octopus type. You can tell by the suckers in the 2nd pic of him in the cave training. So that's going to be really interesting to see in a fight.
LOL at Suigetsu saying that Sasuke's sharingan is broken. I think Kishimoto realizes how much unfair power he's written to the sharingan and poked fun at himself. I can dig that.
Also it seems like the 8-tails has attained the most realized control and power out of his bijuu compared to all the other jinchurikis, including Naruto. The fact that he goes in and out of his released form at will, as docdan pointed out, is proof of that.
more sharingan shanningans...
but the snake\falcon\akatsuki team looks great now.
the 8-tails also looks neat, I hope he won't die right away. in fact, I think we'll see a scene of him fighting Sasuke, and then Sasuke uses Sharingan, and the scene changes. and few months later it will be revelead that Sasuke let him go.
actually, it's a shame that Naruto won't get to train under this guy, he probably is a good trainer for naruto.
Yes I believe he's the most controlled of his bijuu out of the 9. And actually, I know it's too soon to tell because we just saw Naruto go into training with the person who taught Jiraiya everything he knows, but if Naruto doesn't learn to control it, the 8 tails could be the strongest in the series for a long long time. Till naruto is a full grown adult in his 30's or late 20's. But who know maybe the frog sage can change that soon with this training.
I actually think Kishi planned for us to find out that the 8 tails can control his power like this, to think maybe naruto has some training to do so he can get ready for the akatsuki when they come to town like the 8 tails more than is for team hawk. Obviously making him fully able to control the 9 tails will have it's issues.
1. Kyuubi is extremely dangerous and wild
2. Naruto is the youngest jinchuriki yet (probably why the old man 4 tails new how to control his bijuu and form lots of elemental seals. And why it was even hard for Kisame to take down.
3. Since naruto is so young it could be a problem for him to know Kyuubi well enough to control him, or even have the relationship that the 8 tails probably has with his bijuu. However, he does and has talked with him a lot in his subconscious. Although most of it was not really talking as it was Kyuubi convincing Naruto he can make him a guest god, and then using his body as a killing machine.
4. The training with the frog could maybe not help Naruto with bijuu. In fact he probably won't even help naruto touch on that. But who knows
@death booz:
he won't die right away. In fact, I think Sasuke and the whole team hawk is going to have a bitch of a hard ass time to fight him. The guys is the strongest bijuu right now and has 8 tails to work with. And he's only a smidgen less chakra than naruto holds. He'll be fine. Sasukes eyes probably won't even work on him. He's probably going to have use what his brother gave him to get the job done well. He won't let him go. But he's going to need more akatsuki members to give him a hand with this one. They aren't sending in a jounin level ninja at full training capacity age. They're sending in a new recruit with fresh sharingan and a relative in the akatsuki. All of the akatsuki are still much stronger than Sasuke is right now. He'll need back up. At least 2 more people. 3 of peins bodies and Kisame should do the trick.
Yeah him not being able to train and teach Naruto is a real shame. With the right teachings from this 8 tails, naruto could own entire villages with one hand tied behind his back.
Should be getting good from here. Interesting to note. I haven't read the last 4 chapters, and then 7 more before that. But I'm starting again on this chapter. Oh well spoilers for me.
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