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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn View Post
    Now might be as good a time as any to take a break for a while.
    My thoughts exactly. I just have 0 motivation right now to keep pushing even with better drops farmable in earlier acts. And 30k after 5 deaths...I guess they decided to go with the high end of the multiplier range they mentioned for repair cost increases. That makes this decision easy; see ya in a few major patches blizzard.
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    I am so glad I sold all my DH glass cannon gear for money.
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    Wow, got to act 2 on inferno with my DH and it's tough as fuck. Even the normal mobs hit for insane amounts of damage, and as others have noted, elites can kill in one or two hits. My DH has 37k HP and 37k damage with sharpshooter. I've defeated 2 elite packs but died 6 times while fighting them. The fact that they gain the death touch if you take too long to kill them makes it almost pointless.

    I might go farm act 1 but at this point I've completed the game 7 times so what's the point. Still, solid 150 hours of my life spent on this game.


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    Completion depends on the person. I personally think completing normal to inferno counts only as 1 play through. I don't usually think like that, but Diablo 3 seems like the type of game that requires the player to play all the difficulties in order to enjoy it fully.
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    I've never considered different difficulty levels on a game as a new game, though Diablo may be held to a different standard by gamers. If I complete the story and associated missions, then I complete the game.

    Elsewise, would you consider it completed if you had to join a group in order to finish all acts on Inferno? Or would you have to solo it in order to feel a sense of completion?


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    Diablo 3 is supposed to be a single player game, and it is possible to complete it single player, so I personally would think that completion means single player completion.

    That does not mean partying is easier though, unless you join overpowered players.
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    It might have been conceptualized as a single player game, but its implementation negated that. As you believe completion means beating all 4 acts of Inferno, have you personally completed the game?

    With 1.03, partying should be significantly easier, as the elites do not scale as much to account for the added human firepower.


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    Yeah, I beat Inferno before 1.03 came out. I never really played in a party because it was more difficult for a DH. It took me 5 hours to beat Diablo (final boss), but it was a satisfying win where skill and luck all clicked into place.
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    That's cool. I find it seems to take as much luck as skill to defeat the big bosses. It took me 15 tries to beat the butcher on inferno, and the time I finally beat him, the flame floor didn't activate when he was down to 5% health. The previous 7 times I died to him, it was because of the flame floor going 100% once he was almost dead.

    Elite packs require more skill, mostly at kiting. I just beat 3 elite packs in act 2 of inferno, but had to run from another 3 that had too powerful a combination of powers. Very dissatisfying to have to avoid them.


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    but it was a satisfying win where skill and luck all clicked into place.
    Can't say I agree with the skill part against Diablo as a DH,

    he was pretty easy to beat imho
    the only boss in act4 which pretty much did nothing, in fact all the bosses except the second one were actually pretty easy to beat

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    Second one meaning the Butcher or 2nd boss from Act 4? I killed the Skeleton King and Magda easily with my DH. The bosses in D3 are thoroughly disappointing. But wouldn't it suck if the bosses were near impossible like some elite packs, and then you couldn't proceed in the story? At least you can run from elite packs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    It might have been conceptualized as a single player game, but its implementation negated that. As you believe completion means beating all 4 acts of Inferno, have you personally completed the game?

    With 1.03, partying should be significantly easier, as the elites do not scale as much to account for the added human firepower.
    Considering that Inferno mode requires strategy and preparation that is unnecessary in the previous difficulties, I'd say it's the most critical part of completing the game. That being said, I'm in no rush to beat it.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    Can't say I agree with the skill part against Diablo as a DH,

    he was pretty easy to beat imho
    the only boss in act4 which pretty much did nothing, in fact all the bosses except the second one were actually pretty easy to beat
    You probably have decent gear. I had decent damage, but my aspd was shit, and I die from 1 hit from anything. The clone part was the only difficult part because my nether tentacles moved at a snail's pace, so I could not kill the clone in time even with SS and the stuns from rain of vengeance.

    The 1st and 3rd phases were almost too easy.
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    Well, with the new patch out at the end of this month, looks like it might be worth it to log back in and peek at the game to see if its fun in inferno. I'm looking forward to the hydra buffs. Blizzard/venom hydra combo is alright but I do wish I could use some of the other hydras as venom hydra is just plain ugly. I'm also hoping they buff the other signature spells, electrocute in particular.

    With the nerfs to some of the more annoying affixes that are coming, dying might be less of an issue, so I might bother trying to level a melee character now. There's also a 25% cost reduction in repair for high level gear, which may be good enough with the increase in gear drops, gear improvement (only weapons for 1.04), and reduction in dying from the monster nerfs.

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    edit: Apparently the enrage timers on some of the champion packs were designed as a dps check...if so, wouldn't it have made sense for loot that allows you to progress to drop? Idiots.
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    There is really nothing to be done with D3 until new content drops, and that's a long time coming. I don't care what the content changes into because the game, unlike D2, does not encourage rapid, repetitive clears, so there's not a whole lot of reason to sit there playing it day in and day out.

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    D3 is the worst game, made by blizzard, I've played so far.. and by far

    I'm just glad that I got enough money from it to buy the SC2-addon when it comes out, so the money loss is not that big.

    I don't know anyone who is still playing this.... and when it got released 9 of my friends bought it the first day.

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    Oh yeah there's no PVP. How the hell do you let that happen? The entire endgame of Diablo II was boss runs and PVP and both of those things were missing and replaced with nothing in Diablo III. No surprise it has no longevity.

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    Oh yeah, granted this game is far from great, but I have yet to beat it on inferno. With the changes that are coming now I should be able to realistically get gear from drops and farm my way to the end without relying on the AH or bashing my skull on the desk because of how stupidly hard and unfun it is. Once that's done, I'll maybe level a monk, and then shelve the game until the expansion is released...if I even decide to buy it. Maybe I could try running a hardcore character as well, but honestly, torchlight 2 gets released end of the month and guild wars 2 is out as well...so I'm not sure that I'll care really.
    "You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."

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    Rolled some new chars with friends last night in hardcore mode. Starting fresh + the relatively unraped HC economy + the excitement of hardcore mode was very refreshing - almost like playing the game for the first time.

    I suggest giving it a try.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn View Post
    Rolled some new chars with friends last night in hardcore mode. Starting fresh + the relatively unraped HC economy + the excitement of hardcore mode was very refreshing - almost like playing the game for the first time.

    I suggest giving it a try.
    Yeah... none of my friends are coming back.

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