Well in DBZ, when the Asian people get mad they turn into a white man. Explain.Originally Posted by The Archangel
Well in DBZ, when the Asian people get mad they turn into a white man. Explain.
You do have a point there. Anyway anyone interested in getting back to Naruto, this is kinda annoying.
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No, I say we continue this into the next chapter thread.
Here's a good topic for discussion that came to me today:
Can anyone help me remember the last time the Sharingan was actually used to copy other Jutsu?
I'm much more interested in that than Jiraiya's dumb page-number code.
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previous Sasuke fights list -
Itachi.
Deidara.
Naruto
Orochimaru (escape from crap pen)
Naruto (the river fight) before Naruto Z
the sound four
Hospital fight
Itachi fight
Gaara fight2
Gaara fight1
...
yep, I think we have nothing sense Lion combo. though it's just from my memory.
it's a well known fact that Sasuke is a complete, raging, flaming asshole that doesn't appriciate his luck and what he already has.
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Pffft sharingan's way too powerful to be wasted on copying other techniques.
Actually, Chidori came right after the Lion Combo. So we have nothing since Chidori, which, when considering the potential of this particular aspect of the sharingan, is pretty sad. Maybe Kishi forgot about that part?
That's what I was insinuating, yes.
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Didn't Kakashi copy Kisame's Suikoudan no Jutsu when he, Asuma and Kurenai were fighting Kisame and Itachi.
Gaara fight 1: Not much to be copied since he's only using sand and i didn't see any seals to be copied.
Gaara fight 2: Basicly the same, not much to be copied.
Itachi fight: Not much to be copied except for some plain taijutsu, and only suffering tsukiyomi.
Hospital fight: Could copy shadow clone here, and the naruto combo if you're pushing it.
Sound four: Only taijutsu used on him, nothing to special.
Naruto river fight: Yet another chance to get shadow clones but that's it
Orochimaru: Who knows what techniques he copied during his stay, and in his fight with Oro, well you can hardly call it a fight since Oro was to busy getting his ass handed to him.
Naruto + Rest: Haven't seen a single technique from anyone he could copy, maybe Sai's painting technique.
Deidara: Don't know how the clay works but he seems to be molding without any seals and only uses seal to blow it up, so the way i see it he could only use the blow up seal on pieces of clay. Non moving parts.
Itachi: Again not much to copy since itachi really didn't use that many moves, mostly mangekyou based.
The way i look at it Sasuke somehow ended up fighting people that mostly use some kind of special technique or bloodline and there really isn't that much to copy. He really hasn't seen that many copyable things being used against him.
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Well that is kinda the point isn't it. It you know you're going to be fighting the sharingan then using techniques you know can be copied would be down right stupid now wouldn't it. Everyone jounin level and above seems to develop their own unique and un-copyable techniques, if not a completely unique fighting style, and that is especially true when it comes to akatsuki members.
Well it has been said many times before but honestly I don't think he has forgotten it. Copying jutsus always seemed to me to be the least usefull of all the sharingan's abilities and the easiest one to defeat. Besides as Lee pointed out once your opponent reaches a certain level, jounin and above, copying techniques pretty much becomes a useless waste of chakra.
Copying techniques always seemed to me to be one of lower end of the sharingan's abilities which is why you only need two tomoe to be able to do it.
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Sasuke didn't copy Chidori, he learned it from Kakashi. even if the process involved using the sharingan, it doesn't count as copying (at least no sharinganly-wise).
so, since copying the lion combo (around chapter 50?) he didn't copy any new technique. in some ways, it's as lame as Naruto.
really, he has the ability to stack up on skills at a rate that no one can rival. but he doesn't. that's being an ungrateful emo bitch.
but ofcourse, Sasuke has better things to do than be thankful for his incridable luck, like getting himself into deeper shit, and discard what others gave their life to give him.
Backtracking to the point about the fourth only being strong enought to seal the kyuubi vs. defeating it, i think that the only reason he probably didnt just outright fight it was for the same reason gaara lost to deidara in the sand village. I think that the fourth didnt want to end up destroying the village to stop the kyuubi. They did say that the fourth was the strongest ninja that konoha ever produced. And also with all this new info that we've found out about the first, lets not forget about how the third owned both him and the second with bunshins. So that old guy could still do some serious damage. And the fourth surpassed him during his prime.
It's not like i'm trying to defend him but as i stated in my previous post he didn't have a chance to copy any techniques in his fights. So how can he make use of that ability then if this is the case. For all we know he learned dozens of moves under Oro, seeing as how that would be beneficial to Oro as well for when he'd take over the body. Granted that he could've used those against either Deidara and Itachi but didn't then.
But i've still seen him use more new or atleast altered techniques then all of the rookie 9 and team gai combined after the time jump.
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Actually, he copied Rock Lee's speed I think (although i think it was Kakashi who showed him, so Kakashi's speed...). But still, Kishimoto should have made more use of this.
He actually copied Lee's Taijutsu, and Kakashi made him focus on speed training....
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
They explained that the sharingan "copies" techniques by giving you insight into the workings of the technique, so that the mental part (the understanding part) of learning a technique is out of the way. If the technique is so simple and easy to perform that you can do it as soon as you get it, then great, you've copied it as soon as you've seen it with the sharingan. But concerning Chidori, it probably wasnt very easy to do even if you get how it's done. So it took training to master it. So yeah, I'd say he "copied" chidori. Kage bunshin...he "copied" that too I'm sure, assuming this insight ability is passive with the sharingan activated.
Kakashi also copied Itachi's genjutsu that he used during the rescue gaara arc.
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Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. My point was that Kishimoto "forgot" (or changed, whatever) the fact that Sharingan was originally a copying eye-technique. That was the long and short of it. By introducing several different flavors of Mangekyou Sharingan and orchestrating the fights so that no Sharingan user could or would copy an opponent's jutsu, he's essentially written that part of the Sharingan away in lieu of ridiculously overpowered eye-hax-no-jutsu.
Even the "Copy Ninja" Kakashi has lost his original gimmick and replaced it with a Mangekyou Sharigan that warps space and time, as Assertn has just pointed out.
First we're told that the Sharingan copies enemy jutsu, and that was cool. Several hundred chapters later we're being told that it can also control the Kyuubi. It's a pretty telling example of how the series has progressed over the years. Sorry for going so off-topic, everyone.
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<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
I dont know, they did have restrictions on the Sharingan early on, I mean from the first time Sasuke used it against Haku we knew that he wouldnt be able to copy the move because it was a bloodline limit. And of course the person narrating the Sharingan's Abilities at that time was Sakura, and Kakashi, so maybe neither of them knew about MS or any of the other stuff at that time. Either that or Kakashi thought that it was too soo to train Sasuke on that stuff. Ya never know in the Naruto-verse. I just want the new chapter to come out so I know what the code is!
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
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