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    Due to continuous intense battles between Jiraiya vs Pain and Itachi vs Sasuke, we all have forgotten about the secret scroll that 4th Hokage passed to Jiraiya before he died (I suppose so). Right before Jiraiya went into the battle with Pain, Jiraiya had passed the scroll to one of the frog. Surely, we can't underestimate the importance of this scroll. We know that the scroll contains the secret of unlocking the seal of the Kyuubi. Now Jiraiya is dead and he left us with a combination codes that we still not sure what is it. Will it relate to the scroll? This is a bit question I ask myself when I reviewed by previous chapters. I think it's almost time for Naruto to be stronger, not because I hope him so, but since the story has developed into this peak, it is an obvious call for Naruto to be stronger. As there is possibility that the codes relate to Naruto, this prove more us more that Naruto's time has comes and apparently we know a real heat battle is going to exploit.

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    I was a bit surprise too when I read the part where Madara mentioned they still don't have enough power to suppress or attack Konoha. And I am not underestimate Konoha here but we are fully aware of how powerful Pain is and plus team Eagle with Madara, this is clear how Powerful they are now yet Madara still claimed they don't have enough power.

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    Again, it's not only a matter of power it's also a matter of numbers.

    U can't go to war with a military nation with about 20 guys, even in the Naruto universe and , apparently, even with their enormous power.

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    Yeah, that is the reason Oro had to enlist the aid of the sand village when he attacked Konoha. Secondly we don't know what other secrets Konoha is hiding. Its obvious that they were ridiculously powerful and there was alot of stuff going on behind the scenes that the public and us readers don't know about. Madara just gave Sasuke a little example of what the Sengu are capable of and its reasonable to think that there is a lot he left out.
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    lol wtf? that guy posted exactly what's on this blog, grammar mistakes included:

    http://naruto2talk.blogspot.com/

    Do you at least own the blog john?

    Anyway, i'm also curious to the reason why the fourth decided to seal the Nine-tails inside kyuubi.

    Was that really the only way to defeat it? Apparently the first took out both madara and the nine tails and the fourth is said to be the greatest of all hokages.

    Did he want Naruto to do something using that chakra? Does that mean that the rasengan isn't completed yet or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    lol wtf? that guy posted exactly what's on this blog, grammar mistakes included:

    http://naruto2talk.blogspot.com/

    Do you at least own the blog john?

    Yeah, john has been lingering around here for the last few weeks and does nothing but copy and paste his blog.

    Most people just skip over his posts; you'll learn to do the same.

    Anyway, i'm also curious to the reason why the fourth decided to seal the Nine-tails inside kyuubi.

    Was that really the only way to defeat it? Apparently the first took out both madara and the nine tails and the fourth is said to be the greatest of all hokages.

    Did he want Naruto to do something using that chakra? Does that mean that the rasengan isn't completed yet or something?
    This has been discussed a few times already. Its been theorized that the kyuubi is too strong to be destroyed, and sealing it is the only way to keep it out of the control of Madara (or any other Uchiha). And I believe it was stated in the manga (by Jiraiya I think) that the 4th hoped Naruto would learn to control the kyuubi chakra and use it for good, or something like that. Probably had nothing to do with the Rasengan though.

    The first defeated madara, but we don't know anything about him defeating the nine-tails. We know that he had the ability to control the bijuu and suppress them, so its more likely that he used that ability during his battle with Madara to make the nine-tails a non-factor.

    We don't really know enough about Minato to doubt him being the greatest of the hokages and its not really fair to compare the first and the fourth based on encounters with the kyuubi.
    The fourth did, however, sacrifice his life in order to finally get rid of the nine-tails and save the village. So, I'd say that alone is worthy enough of bestowing upon him the title of "great" in the Konoha history books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    That would be a miraculous feat if Jiraiya, in his last breath, wrote a series of numbers that pointed to specific words in his book that completely described Pain's secret.

    Seriously, that would be some hardcore photographic memory shit right there.

    Well he is Asian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne
    The fourth did, however, sacrifice his life in order to finally get rid of the nine-tails and save the village. So, I'd say that alone is worthy enough of bestowing upon him the title of "great" in the Konoha history books.
    Not only that, but he gave the village a Jinchuuriki, which seem to be Naruto-universe A-bombs.

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    didn't all the villiages already have one?
    after all, the two tails (the girl with spicy breath) was around 20, Gaara is around Naruto's age (probably older by a few months?) and the rest of the jinchuuriki are probably accomplished ninjas, well over puberity.

    maybe Madare attaked the previous Jinchuuriki and released the kyuubi from the former host?

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    Well all the five major villages had a bijuu that doesn't necessarily mean they all had a jinchuuriki. For example Chiyo said that the first two Kazekages were jinchuuriki, but the only reason a jinchuuriki would be neccessary is if they are unable to control the bijuu without the use of one. The Sengu and the Uchiha both had means of controlling the Kyuubi without a Jinchuuriki so creating one wasn't necessary. Besides it was implied that the Kyuubi disappeared when Madara did and Jiraiya thought that when it attacked Konoha sixteen years ago it was summoned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopdeville
    How many Japanese letters (in a relevant alphabet) does "Uchiha Madara" have? It has 6 syllables, but does it have any 'silent' letters?
    Uchiha Madara = うちは マダラ
    One character for one syllable. Hiragana for Uchiha, katakana for Madara.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage
    Well he is Asian.
    Asians have photographic memory?
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Asians have photographic memory?

    You didn't know?

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    Asians are the pinnacle of human evolution Assertn...

    As a fellow white guy you have to learn to deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    As a fellow white guy
    Oh dear...no one's told you, have they?

    I'm not completely sold on the "page numbers" solution to Jiraiya's code. If it were 6 numbers, perhaps each number could refer to one of Pain's bodies. It's the 7th number that throws it off.

    Though, this chapter hints heavily towards the page number theory, what with the "it's probably something someone close to Jiraiya would know about" thing. Kinda silly that half the internet has guessed the answer and even ninja "code breakers" are having a hard time with this. It's all about suspense with Kishimoto.

    Or at least his ridiculous conception of it.

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    Lol come on at least give it a chance, it may not be the books.

    I still think that Tsudade's measurements hide the key

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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    Oh dear...no one's told you, have they?

    I'm not completely sold on the "page numbers" solution to Jiraiya's code. If it were 6 numbers, perhaps each number could refer to one of Pain's bodies. It's the 7th number that throws it off.

    Though, this chapter hints heavily towards the page number theory, what with the "it's probably something someone close to Jiraiya would know about" thing.
    Well the seventh doesn't really throw it off since Jiraiya did suspect that there was a seventh, Nagato's original body, controlling the others from somewhere else. Even if Pein only has six bodies I don't think there being a seventh number disrupts anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    Kinda silly that half the internet has guessed the answer and even ninja "code breakers" are having a hard time with this. It's all about suspense with Kishimoto.

    Or at least his ridiculous conception of it.
    You're not being serious right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    Well the seventh doesn't really throw it off since Jiraiya did suspect that there was a seventh, Nagato's original body, controlling the others from somewhere else. Even if Pein only has six bodies I don't think there being a seventh number disrupts anything.
    You're right. I had forgotten about Nagato's original body. I guess he could be out there acting as a puppet master somehow. At the very least, the bodies we saw before showed signs of having his memories. I wonder if the "identity" is any more complex than that. I hope it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    You're not being serious right?
    Of course I'm being serious. It's retarded that Kishimoto has to make his characters so stupid and oblivious just so he can create "suspense" and put off a revelation for another few chapters.
    Last edited by XanBcoo; Mon, 06-30-2008 at 12:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    You're right. I had forgotten about Nagato's original body. I guess he could be out there acting as a puppet master somehow. At the very least, the bodies we saw before showed signs of having his memories. I wonder if the "identity" is any more complex than that. I hope it is.
    This was discussed quite a bit before you started reading the manga. My theory is that Pein's Rinnegan is a genjutsu eye that allows each to send what he sees into the others, P2P style. Pein is 6 (or 7) master shinobi, with one mind and will, and so perfect teamwork.
    Each of the bodies is probably a different elemental type. There is no puppet-master, exactly. Pein will live on, even if Nagato dies.

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    Oh dear god, I've figured it out.

    It's the one thing closest to any man:

    the size of his dick.

    I mean c'mon, who memorizes letters on page numbers in porno books?

    Each number must be a different unit of measurement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    Asians are the pinnacle of human evolution Assertn...

    As a fellow white guy you have to learn to deal with it.
    Photographic memory isn't an evolution.
    People who devote a larger portion of their brain to capturing data subsequently reserve a smaller portion of their brain to logic and reasoning.

    This is why someone like Einstein had a notoriously bad memory, while that one guy that had been reported with the highest possible level of eidetic memory ended up in a mental hospital.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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