I know it's easy to say what you would or wouldn't do when it's just fanciful supposition. But when faced with these decisions in real life, I think it'd be a lot more difficult to choose.
I know it's easy to say what you would or wouldn't do when it's just fanciful supposition. But when faced with these decisions in real life, I think it'd be a lot more difficult to choose.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I think the most I'd do is slowly grow more and more resentful toward any of my friends if I actually faced that decision and turned it down.
"Oh, you can't make it for my birthday...? That's cool I guess..."
"Oh, you forgot to invite me to that party? No problem man...these things...happen..."
Those are some drastic examples, but even the little stuff could add up. Under normal circumstances, your best friend not having time to listen to your problems because he's busy is acceptable, but once you've given up your greatest wish for his sake it can be some pretty unforgivable shit. Certainly not something I'd like to imagine myself doing, but I wouldn't rule it out.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
That shows some balls admitting that could happen. I didn't even think about that side of it, but I know I'd feel the same way. If I gave up my greatest wish for someone's sake, they'd better be worth it. I'm not proud of it, but I think I would want them to know about the deal, so they'd realize how much of a friend I am to them, and how close they came to death.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Lol, sounds like you gave the option some serious thought Ani. If you really want to scare the guy, tell him you can take up the option anytime you want.Originally Posted by Animeniax
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I think Xan is also neglecting the fact that if you kept thinking like that, you would actually be severing the friendship bond on your side. Naturally some amount of skepticism is allowed in any relationship but the moment you start to seek reasons to lessen the bond in order to carry out the grim mission, you aren't anymore looking at a best friend, or a friend at all.
If the deal is explicitly for a best friend, it should be carried out soon or totally rejected. If you take time to look for excuses and convince yourself, you have actually already stopped to consider the person a friend and view him/her as a mere tool anymore.
I don't know, I think you could still be best friends if you don't put too much weight on the possibilities if you had taken the wish. It would be like if you had a chance to cheat on your wife, but decided not to. You could still be a loving husband and your wife could still be your soulmate, even if there are other chances to cheat.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Whats this, we discuss hypothetically killing a few people and you gotta call our psychological state into question. You guys really need to get down from your moral high ground. I wish I could see the world like you guys do, from behind a wall of moral boundaries, laws and psychological barriers but I can't and I really don't see the need for any of that to be a part of this discussion.
Saying no, and then going on to discuss everything that is wrong with killing your best friend is rather boring and its just going to kill this thread, the flip side is much more entertaining.
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This is totally true for the every day, average person IMO. People can't deal with such big decisions. And even once they've made the choice, in the end, they'll always be like: WHAT IF? WHAT IF I HAD KILLED THIS LOSER AND GOTTEN THAT DAMN WISH?!
You've made a great point here. It's amazing how your affinity for someone can rapidly decrease by such things.I think the most I'd do is slowly grow more and more resentful toward any of my friends if I actually faced that decision and turned it down.
"Oh, you can't make it for my birthday...? That's cool I guess..."
"Oh, you forgot to invite me to that party? No problem man...these things...happen..."
Those are some drastic examples, but even the little stuff could add up. Under normal circumstances, your best friend not having time to listen to your problems because he's busy is acceptable, but once you've given up your greatest wish for his sake it can be some pretty unforgivable shit. Certainly not something I'd like to imagine myself doing, but I wouldn't rule it out.
D: But I'll admit, I am greedy as hell, but still, I wouldn't give them up. I prefer to work for my rewards in life. =) roflmao.
You people scare the living hell out of me. But yeah, I thought some more about it, and it turns out my greatest wish, and even the next few under that, involves my friends being around. I'd have to disagree with the resentment thing. I've been in similar, admittedly less drastic situations, and have made the choice of putting my friends first, and even after things didn't go perfectly with them, there was no resentment as a matter of principle. Your choices are yours to make and I make them usually based on what is, and not what I hope could be, when it comes to other people.
Did I mention you people scare the living shit out of me? Oh I did? good.
One thing you'll have to consider besides trading your best friend for a wish is the manner of killing. Is there some supernatural power that'll just obliterate her existence, and no one will remember she existed, or are you going to have to personally slip a blade between their ribs? I think before you ask "Will I kill my best friend for a wish", you first have to ask "Will I kill for my wish."
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Really depends on the wish. I've learned that despite whatever people may or may not think of themselves everyone and I do mean everyone is capable of killing under the right circumstances. You are right though before you can think of killing your best friend for your greatest wish you have to think of whether or not you would be willing to kill for that wish, period. That however depends completely on the wish and the costs/benefits of the wish, but because in this thread the wish you would hypothetically make can only benefit you then I fully expect everyone here to say no.
Yeah I get that alot.
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I've also been in such situations and come out exactly the same. I'm just trying to be realistic here. Frightening, I know, but I like to imagine all the possible outcomes of a hypothetical situation.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
I'm going to propose slightly different question:
Say both you and your best friend have a prize you both really want. Only one of you can have it, and you're both evenly matched if you're contending for it fairly, whatever that may be. Now you have the option to kill your friend and make your wish come true. Thing is, your friend also has that option.
Would you do it? Will you have faith that your friend won't? If not, will you take his instead?
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As Saman said, its something I would not even have to think twice about. What is right is right, what is wrong is wrong. And being on an internet forum or in real life doesnt change that.
You're not being serious are you? Right and Wrong is not as simple as black and white.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
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I don't know what reality you have in your head when you say that, but the decision to kill someone or not over what is essentially your pleasure is pretty black and white to me.
Have any subpoenas been issued for the contents of this thread in a murder trial?
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Would you eat shit with one of the girls in 2 Girls 1 Cup if she promised to fuck your brains out?
I mean, I just thought I'd ask if the point of this thread is to ask a hypothetical question.
To answer my own question: yes.
You're creepy.
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Sapphire is awesome!
Yes i would for omnipotent power and then resurrect him - its simple isnt it? and since i have omnipotent power i would made him omnipotent too for his sacrifice. Well you said wish that benefits me not other ppl - so it is omnipotent power.
and of the second question, if its my best friend i would not kill him but ask him to give prize to someone other.
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