This post has truly inspired me.Originally Posted by Carnage
This post has truly inspired me.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I approve of your inspiration. It is very inspiring.
You'd make him suffer a slow and painful death like that? Some friend you are.
Last edited by Animeniax; Wed, 06-25-2008 at 09:15 AM.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
No, but i would kill my worst enemy just for the hell of it.
I would do it. My biggest fear is death. Since you cant imagine not existing and i don't believe in a life after death, the only thing left is being trapped in complete darkness. And every time i have been thinking of death that's what pops up. Being trapped for all eternity alone and in complete darkness. So yeah i fear death more then anything. If i could become immortal by killing my best friend i would. And by immortal i mean i cant die by any means. Not decease, not old age, no wounds, nothing! Then i would. Then the only fear would be the sun going super nova and make this part of the universe completely dark, trapping me alone in it ^^
But since immortality don't exist as far as we know, the closest thing to a wish come through would be like Assertn said. Wealth. And like he said, what's the point of being filthy rich if you have nobody to share it with. Every time i have ever dreamed about being rich my best friend is always the first thing that i think about. Without him the motivation to become filthy rich would drop with at least half.
So it depends on how you see it. Yes i would do it for something i know don't exist and that only a genie could grant. But for what does exist in todays world there is nothing that could make me kill my best friend.
This does not make sense. You say you cannot imagine it (which I agree with), yet you say you imagine it to be a state where you are trapped alone in darkness for eternity.
I do get your point though, but immortality, while no one can be sure, may be one of the worst tortures one can experience.
Peace.
Since my greatest wish is my greatest wish ,it also includes that all my friends are alive and healthy
so I kill my friend and he will be resurrected just right after doing so...
good game, djinn trapped in the flask, I tricked you!
edit: oh shit I fail.... just read the "only benefits you"-part :P
hmm then.. I guess, I wouldn't do it... especially if it is my best friend after all, but then again, it depends... for example I move to a new country or city and make a friend there, then at the moment, he's my best friend... but he's still some kind of "stranger"..If thats the case, then I might be able to do this crime
If I kill the guy, will I forget that I killed him after making the wish? Or do I have to live with the memory of taking someones life away, who didn't do anything to me?
Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 07-07-2008 at 09:50 AM.
You need to think bigger. If you were immortal, you could travel to the far reaches of space and conquer all the worlds in the universe. That would kick ass.
Really there was no need to revive this thread.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Yes but not in my mind. In my mind immortality is the salvation from the fear of death. And as far as we humans know, time heals all wounds. You get over the death of your friends and family. You deal with the pain and grief over their deaths but with time it disappears. Sure it leaves scars and even 20-50 years after their deaths you may still remember them and cry but it's not like you do that 24/7.
And even if all the deaths stack up after a while and it becomes torture i wouldn't know that today and would gladly take my immortality.
NOTE: I assumed the torture you where talking about would come from seeing your loved ones die one after another for all eternity since i can't think of anything else making immortality being a curse.
EDIT:
Only problem i have with that would be of how you propel yourself through space and how to navigate. And once you land on a planet and it turns out to be barren and dead, how do you leave the planet and it's gravitation.
Actually, it was from boredom.
One should remember that even if a year or so is short compared to an eternal existence, it does not make time pass by any faster.
Peace.
Well you would be on a spaceship capable of intergalactic travel.
Just because your life sucks now, doesn't mean it would be the same once you're immortal. You could live it up and be daring, and date women and race cars and stuff. It might get boring 1000 years later, but it'd be a blast until then.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Yes, until then... then what?
Once you get bored (probably because you have run out of stuff to do, which undoubtedly you will, being immortal) what then? That is an eternity of boredom for a thousand years of satisfaction. One cannot be sure, but I might not prefer such a fate.
Peace.
It's funny you say that since people often give up a lifetime of happiness for one night of fun. So being bored for a long time isn't worth it for 1000 years of having a great time? I'll worry about the boredom part when I get to it, but I'd enjoy the 1000 years first.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
What if I were to capture you and make you my guinea pig and swear an oath that for as long as a member of my family walks the earth we will hunt you down and torture you. Lock you up in a dungeon without any sunlight, and because there is no risk of you dying, we wouldn't even have to feed you or give you water. Then we could take our time and torture you, pull out your fingernails, peal off your skin, burn you alive, remove some organs etc etc. I'm sure in a situation like that you'd wish that you could die, coward.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
But i can't be sure of death either but my imaginary version of it consist of the boredom of being trapped in eternal darkness. It's like laying down, closing your eyes in a completely dark room and with the knowledge that you are dead and that you will never be able to open those eyes. You will never hear another voice or another sound for that matter. You will never see anyone else, never be able to talk to anyone. And that will go on for all eternity. Wouldn't that torture be worse then your boredom torture? And that torture is only 5 years to 100 years away. While the borddom torture would be probably 500-5000 years away. I'll take my immortality any day.
Sure i would. But then i have already made my choice. So i can't. And eventually i would get free. Either someone would find me and free me, or i would be able to escape, or your blood line dies out somewhere on the way, or someone of your family feels guilty and stop that oath and frees me (which wouldn't save them because now the tables would turn and i would enjoy all eternity to torture any one connected to your bloodline. And i wouldn't have to worry about some offspring needing to agree and take over the "family business" And at that point i would be glad i was immortal. So in the end i would find a way to feel happiness and pleasure even if i have to redfine what that is ^^What if I were to capture you and make you my guinea pig and swear an oath that for as long as a member of my family walks the earth we will hunt you down and torture you. Lock you up in a dungeon without any sunlight, and because there is no risk of you dying, we wouldn't even have to feed you or give you water. Then we could take our time and torture you, pull out your fingernails, peal off your skin, burn you alive, remove some organs etc etc. I'm sure in a situation like that you'd wish that you could die, coward.
Last edited by TwisT; Mon, 07-07-2008 at 10:24 AM.
And those people more often than not regret that one night don't they? It is probably the same situation, only multiplied a million-fold.
Peace.
Regret is a funny thing, it's all how you look at it. Plus if you're immortal, that changes the game entirely.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Like regretting something forever, I guess.
Once you bring up that argument (namely "it's all how you look at it") then further discussion becomes pointless since it can be reduced to such a claim.
Peace.
I'm amazed at how this thread turned into some deep conversation about immortality and boredom.
Why immortality? It's better to live a life you are satisfied with. Live your 70-90 years and do everything you want to. When i'm dying i want to feel satisfied with my life and feel that i did everything i ever wanted to do. If you feel bored at an age of 24 you fail big time, get off your ass and do something.
If you see eternity and all you can think is that it will suck just like your life sucks now, then you must live one boring and pointless life. With our limited lifespans and mortality, there are too many restrictions to what we can do, and also, limits to what we can get over as far as regrets, so I can't agree with PSJ. Imagine not having any of those limits, and the possibilities are vast. You could do and try anything and everything.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
If it is an eternal life that I have the choice to end when I see fit, then I agree with your assessment. But being trapped in an immortal body forever not being able to end my life if I ever desire or see the need to do so is similar to the ultimate lack of freedom. Well, that is what I believe anyhow.
Peace.
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