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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    I wonder if the quality of your friendship or the person sacrificed would affect what kind of wish can be granted. For example I don't think anyone would get much for killing Animeniax.
    Sry Ani, but I loled at this one, no offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    @Abdula: diamonds have a half-life? I thought that property only applied to elements?
    Diamonds, as with all matter in the universe is ultimately composed of elements. Carbon in this case has a half life of 5730 years.

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    If this now turns into a physics class i'm gonna kick your ass ani. What's with your weird ability to transform every thread into a shadow of their former selves?? I still remember how the Goofiest Reps suddenly turned into a race debate about the superiority of the asian people xD
    Oh just like my thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    Well if you leave the object inside the brain, it could not regenerate to the point where it would be functional. If there's an axe blade jammed between the lobes of your brain, no matter how much it regenerated, your brain wouldn't work right.

    Along those lines, it sure would be nice to be immortal, but stuck inside a steel coffin, or inside a concrete wall or structure.
    You could wait so many years that the coffin/structure or whatever is degradated enough so that you can escape.

    Regarding the question of the thread, I have no one I can call a best friend. I have many friends and the like, but nothing as best. Maybe some are better than the others, that's all. And I do not think I'm the best friend for someone. So I guess the question doesn't apply.

    I could try to stretch it, into thinking what I would do if I had a best friend, the problem is that I think I do not have the mind structure that qualifies to answer. Having no best friend, I do not know what it is, so it's a bit hard theorize about it.

    The other point is the kiling. I guess it's the greatest problem here. Are you able to kill, is the first basic part of the question.
    I think I am not able to kill a human being. I can't tell I would'nt be able regardless of the circumstances. Maybe I could be able if I'm incredibly pissed at someone, enough for loosing judgment/reason, but then I'd need something that enables me to kill.
    Maybe if faced to a choice beetween my life and the life of someone else. Or the life of someone I hold dear and someone else etc...
    But I think that I'm not able to. So I guess I do not qualify, again, for the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75
    Along those lines, it sure would be nice to be immortal, but stuck inside a steel coffin, or inside a concrete wall or structure.
    You could wait so many years that the coffin/structure or whatever is degradated enough so that you can escape.
    It would take like 100 years or something, you'd be an immortal looney toon at that point

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    It would take like 100 years or something, you'd be an immortal looney toon at that point
    Yup, immortal but not protected against mental problems people could create for you with mind torture.
    And living forever with the right psychological scars, is living in hell...

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    Wow you guys are really working hard looking for faults with immortality. I guess you're a bunch of "glass half empty" kind of people. All I see are the upsides. Considering this is all fantasy conjecture, why not look at the bright side?


    For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    Considering this is all fantasy conjecture, why not look at the bright side?
    Wait... This is fantasy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75
    Regarding the question of the thread, I have no one I can call a best friend. I have many friends and the like, but nothing as best. Maybe some are better than the others, that's all. And I do not think I'm the best friend for someone. So I guess the question doesn't apply.
    No best friend? But you're married, so doesn't that make your wife your best friend? Or at the very least, someone who you love more than all others, and who cares about you the same way. I can see people with girlfriends seeing this question as not applying, because those relationships can be fairly shallow, but when you make a marriage committment, you choose to spend your life with someone, and that requires all the elements of a strong friendship to make it work.

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    Maybe he's like the Japanese, so it's a marriage of convenience or social standing.


    For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?

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    Probably just didn't think of his wife as a "friend" even though she probably does fit that best friend description. Semantics, whatever.

    I really have no clue if I'd kill my friends or not for my greatest wish. I don't think I know what my greatest wish is. Right now, there's nothing I can think of that would cause me to kill my friends without them knowing it's coming. But in those cases, I'd be killing one or more of them for things that are less than my greatest wish, because I think of wishes several tiers greater than what I'd be killing them for, and none of those involves them dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KitKat
    No best friend? But you're married, so doesn't that make your wife your best friend? Or at the very least, someone who you love more than all others, and who cares about you the same way. I can see people with girlfriends seeing this question as not applying, because those relationships can be fairly shallow, but when you make a marriage committment, you choose to spend your life with someone, and that requires all the elements of a strong friendship to make it work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles
    Probably just didn't think of his wife as a "friend" even though she probably does fit that best friend description. Semantics, whatever.
    I don't know for semantics, but to me, my wife is my wife. She's more than a best friend per the love committment and the public declaration of the union. Then there's the fact that we share everyday's life and the responsibilities of our household. There's also the fidelity committment that is clearly mentionned in both church and civil wedding. Sexlife is also something different from friendship.
    There's some kind of definition to friendship that comes to mind:
    "A friend is someone you love, but you know you'll never have sex with"

    Clearly my wife does not qualify for the latter part


    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    Maybe he's like the Japanese, so it's a marriage of convenience or social standing.
    You could always argue that a wedding is always of that kind, since after all the wedding part is publicly announcing you're going to live with another person.
    I guess the difference comes from the fact we've choosen each other based on free will and feelings.

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    Don't forget the tax breaks. That's why the gays want marriage rights so bad.

    I think seldom is it that your wife and your best friend are the same person. Too many things you can do with one and not the other. Unless you get real lucky and find the girl who somehow likes to watch hockey, go fishing, play video games, and still be able to raise your kids, cook, clean, and stay slim, it just isn't very likely. So happily if you do get a wish fulfilled by killing your best friend, you most likely will still have your wife around. Unless she narcs you out, the skank.


    For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75
    I don't know for semantics, but to me, my wife is my wife. She's more than a best friend per the love committment and the public declaration of the union.
    Hey, then maybe you'd get an even better wish granted for killing her *mischeivous grin*

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    Quote Originally Posted by KitKat
    Hey, then maybe you'd get an even better wish granted for killing her *mischeivous grin*
    since she's better than what I had whished for the one sharing my life... I really can't even pass the psychological barrier of imagining myself killing another human being. So you'd understand why I can't go where you're headed.

    Poor someone sharing your life

    Then there's a second idea:
    How about a Greatest Wish that once granted is even better? I guess that means the person didn't really think about their Greatest whish

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    When I first read this thread, I immediately thought: "YES. YES I WOULD"

    And then I realized I wouldn't. My friends do quite a lot for me and they put up with me, so really.

    Would not.

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    Yes but you wouldn't need friends to do stuff for you once you get a djinn that magics anything you need done. That would kick ass.


    For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75
    since she's better than what I had whished for the one sharing my life... I really can't even pass the psychological barrier of imagining myself killing another human being. So you'd understand why I can't go where you're headed.

    Poor someone sharing your life
    Hehe, I was just being silly. If I were to answer this question seriously, there's no way I would even consider taking the life of another human being, best friend or anyone. To do so would be to presume to know the value of their life, plus the guilt of having caused someone to die would make me absolutely miserable.

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    There is something ever so slightly morbid about this discussion, and leads me to question the psychological state of the the people announcing their intention to kill their 'best friend'.

    For what it worth, I wouldn't kill a friend for a wish. I wouldn't even kill someone I don't like for a wish to come true. Its not my right to attain happiness at the cost of someone else's life when they have done no wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB_Hunter
    Its not my right to attain happiness at the cost of someone else's life when they have done no wrong.
    oh, but what if they have? Your friend may have done something unforgivable to you, something that caused such sadness that you can only obtain happiness is to kill him/her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB_Hunter
    For what it worth, I wouldn't kill a friend for a wish. I wouldn't even kill someone I don't like for a wish to come true. Its not my right to attain happiness at the cost of someone else's life when they have done no wrong.
    It's easy to claim you'd never do it because this is just a pointless discussion on an internet forum.

    In real life, if faced with having your greatest wish granted, you would not be able to provide an answer so calmly and cleanly. It would trouble your mind for a few days so you couldn't work or be around other people, the shame of even considering such a proposition making it unbearable to even look at your best friend. Your friends would begin talking about you, wondering what was wrong with you, gossiping about you, and you'd overhear them and get paranoid. Then you would stay up nights thinking it over and over and over, until in a sleep-deprived and semi-psychotic state you would somehow justify it to yourself and go through with it.


    For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?

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    lol wow, ani. you've really given this some thought.

    i, however, agree with DB. it's not even really something that i need to think about twice, let alone lose sleep over. probably not even if it was proposed to me in real life. the thought of intentionally hurting someone, good or bad, makes me cringe. the reason is a combination of a few things. mostly, it's similar to TwisT's, though with the opposite effect. the concept of death is so incomprehensible to me that i can't stand the thought of intentionally condemning anyone to that fate. i have no right to do so, and especially if it's for such selfish reasons. also, there's nothing i want badly enough that i would kill my best friend, or anyone really, to get it. not to say that i don't have wishes, just that my greatest wishes aren't something i so desperately want that i could justify killing anyone for them. as for the "they did something to wrong you" argument, if your friend did truly do such a thing, they wouldn't really be your best friend, so they wouldn't be applicable anyway. the only reason i could see myself wanting to kill someone would be if they purposefully killed or otherwise harmed a member of my family.
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