Kage Bunshin does an exact replica of the user plus any material possessions he has near him like his clothes. My guess would be that the chakra weapons would also be duplicated but their cutting power would be decreased when compared to the original naruto since the chakra would be separated by the clones.Originally Posted by DayoftheDante
Yeah, you and Archangel both said that. You actually said that Iruka doesn't qualify as a teacher, but I believe Iruka has a lot he can still teach Naruto.
The point is Naruto has one or two powerful jutsus and a ton of chakra, but he is hardly a master of anything, especially techniques, strategy, and general ninja stuff. Those are all areas that people have been anxious to see Naruto improve in and it has been discussed in this thread. Perhaps techniques are not in Iruka's field of expertise, but strategy and general ninja stuff are. If Iruka can help Naruto improve in areas that people want to see him improve in then it's not really all that dumb of an argument.
Naruto not going to train with Ibiki was one of the biggest mistakes to happen. Ibiki would be far better suited to teaching Naruto the things you speak of, specially if Iruka is still a Chuunin. At this point though, I do think Naruto has a good handle on "general ninja stuff" including diversion, deception and stealth. Really all he needs are more techniques, and some taijutsu training, which he could learn from peers after he gets his elemental training.
Loving all the optimism in this thread, we'll see how long it lasts. Anyway I really don't care who trains Naruto as long as someone does but like I said I really don't see that happening.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
People keep bringing up Iruka being a chuunin... Sure, Iruka is still a chuunin, but Naruto is still a gennin, remember? Surely a gennin can learn something from a chuunin?
Anyway, I had forgotten about the old toad. If anyone is going to actually take Naruto on as a student, it will likely be him. Other than that, the roles of everyone else are sure to stay the same. Kakashi randomly has light bulbs go off where, after some deep analytical thinking, he suddenly decides that he has a way for Naruto to learn something. And Iruka and the villages other ninja will be there to check in from time to time with some sensible advice.
Or maybe Hinata will train Naruto as way to get close to him.
Last edited by Sidnne; Wed, 06-25-2008 at 01:01 AM.
Yeah, but rank means nothing. Naruto is a Genin of the same skill level of his peers, many of which are now Jounin. He hasn't advanced in rank because he came back from 3 years of training with a Sanin only to be greeted with a shitstorm. The fact that Iruka has been teaching at the academy as a Chuunin for God knows how many years is completely telling of his own skill level. Naruto has since trained under a Jounin and a Sanin. That's like a university graduate going back to his 2nd grade teacher to help him finish off his PHD. I've conceded twice that Iruka can function as a moral support and advisory for Naruto, but can you honestly imagine a chapter of "Naruto trains under Iruka"?
Anyway
You're right that this is most likely. Either that or he gets no training whatsoever and rushes off brashly to fight Pain once the code is cracked and we learn his identity.
Naruto don't need no trainin' when he's got Deus Ex Machina no jutsu on his side.
Last edited by XanBcoo; Wed, 06-25-2008 at 01:32 AM.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Naruto displays Jounin+ level skill when it comes to technique skill and strength and that's where his high level ninja ability ends.
But he is seriously lacking in tact. Feigning strength complemented with bunshin deception can only take him so far and more times than not it's only worked when he had help taking on an [already weakened] enemy. As others have mentioned, we would like to see Naruto display tact by using his insane chakra and strategically use intermediate level jutsus so he can, convincingly, lead into his finishing blow.
He has not shown anything beyond an intermediate ability to analyze his opponent's fighting style, find holes, and exploit weaknesses in rapid succession. These last set of skills we've seen in fights like Kidoumaru vs Neji and Sasuke vs Deidara. This is something Naruto desperately needs without Kishi bullshitting another Naruto victory via luck, enemy underestimation of Naruto, and technique powerhousing.
Lastly and to a lesser extent, Naruto needs some type of speed or time/space jutsu to cover distances faster than the blink of an eye and he seriously needs to step up in the taijutsu department.
He can potentially be built to become the best of Jiraiya and Minato (and maybe Naruto's mom) and at that level, he would rock the shit out of Pein and it would be a more than satisfying victory for me to see.
Holy shit now that u mention it... Time/ Space jutsu + rasengan = complete ownage.
Dam i wish we could see the fourth battling someone on a flashback or something.
I'm guessing Naruto will get some sort of technique like that from the scroll Jiraiya left him, maybe even Minato's Flying Thunder God Technique (The Fourths insta move jutsu). With that technique even Naruto could use simple strategies to beat most enemies.
My point exactly.
Naruto has far surpassed Iruka in skill, but not in rank.
The only thing he could teach him is how to get hit in the back with a giant Shuriken and not die.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Seriously this is just stupid, is anyone here actually saying that they think Iruka is naruto's next teacher??
Yeah whatever, it' s a possibility, but lets talk probability here ok?
Maybe Iruka is a wind type and he could help Naruto develop a jutsu that wouldnt hurt him?
I dont think that Naruto really has all that much time to train anyhow. Seems like some shit is going to go down and than after that he will probably just leave the village and bum around like Jiraiya.
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
Iruka probably knows a lot of stuff Naruto doesn't. I mean, Naruto only learned about elemental chakra "recently". He still doesn't know about light and dark recombination or whatever.
I'm sure Iruka knows all about it, even if he can only do crappy techniques with it. If Naruto wanted to, he could probably do a lot of "book learning" from Iruka. Iruka probably couldn't teach him any techniques, but Kakashi isn't teaching any techniques either -- he taught Naruto a training method and told Naruto to go wild on a leaf.
On the other hand, who cares?
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