So... shouldn't there be more Uchiha's around in the Mist village if Madara has been busy with Mrs Madara?
So... shouldn't there be more Uchiha's around in the Mist village if Madara has been busy with Mrs Madara?
So why wasn't it obvious to Kisame that Tobi was the Mizukage? Kisame knows at least some stuff about the Sharingan, like that nobody in the world has it except his Kage, Itachi, Sasuke, and Kakashi.Originally Posted by Abdula
Or do you think Madara (as the Mizukage) kept his Sharingan hidden? I suppose that could be why he uses the "one eye" mask as Tobi -- maybe he used the other eye as the Mizukage.
Kisame has always been my favorite Akatsuki, but now he's even more interesting. He joined Akatsuki of his own will, according to Madara. But he didn't know that he was working for the Mizukage all along. (Mind you, he's a Missing-nin from the Village of Mist.) Is the Mizu-Root? Mizu-Anbu? You know, was he on a mission to join Akatsuki for Mist?
I guess. I don't have much of a problem with the idea that a guy who becomes legendary because of his teleportation and assassination abilities gets killed by a giant chakra monster teleportation or assassination won't work on.
It's not like the First or Madara controlled the Kyuubi through the sheer power of their will. They didn't even use techniques -- they used their genetics.
Was it the Mizukage that Zabuza planned his coup d'etat against way back but failed miserably?
Yes, it was.
Which makes it all the more amusing that Suigetsu is there waving around the sword that Zabuza attempted to use against him.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
weren't they all (Zabuza, Kisame and the rest of the fillermade swordsmen) in the revoultion shit together?
I assumed that since two of them have become missing nins, it was due to the same crime - trying to kill thier leader.
I'm afraid that Kisame might turn to the good side.
I'm with DBZ, I was under the impression that it was all the hidden mist swordsmen who were involved in the attempted coup and what they tried to do was assassinate the feudal lord, not the Mizukage, and that was how the group broke up. I'm guessing it was something similar to the current filler arc in the anime.
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I guess that's a fair assumption, but I assumed the opposite. Specifically because of the way Kisame spoke to Kakashi in Konoha. He said something along the lines of "I heard you killed that Zabuza kid", like he didn't know him except by reputation.
Dude they were all in the group together, it was seven of them, how could he not know him and what I think he was doing there is more or less telling Kakashi that he acknowledges his strength and wants to fight him, more or less.
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Who said they were in a group together? All I know is that they were seven famous swordsmen.
For instance, the Kages are a group, and the Fourth probably never met the First or the Second. They never fought together. Gaara never met the Third. But they are part of an important group.
It might just be fame that brings the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist together.
Last edited by poopdeville; Sat, 06-14-2008 at 03:30 PM.
You know I actually thought that you had a point you were going to make, then you come with this. Anyway you could be right except for the simple fact that the manga says you're wrong. It was a group, a group of seven exceptional shinobi who were given the swords. Suigetsu himself even says that the swords are passed from one generation to the next and him being Zabuza's apprentice was supposed to be the next one to receive his sword. Anyway the group broke up and the ninjas left with their swords, which I think is why another group of Mist Swordsmen can't be formed. Anyway Suigetsu told Sasuke that his goal was to collect the swords.
Last edited by Abdula; Sat, 06-14-2008 at 07:40 PM.
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i think its stupid that now that we've finished with sasuke and itachi that we wouldn't have to see them for awhile. Now you're telling me there is going to be more sasuke and other sharingan crap. im sick of the sharingan. It is by far the most BORING technique in all of the series. Im actually sick of all ninja with bloodline techniques that just tower over everyone else. After reading the past couple chapters im super depressed that ninja like jiraya and asuma are dead. I pray they dont make orochimaru come back as the 8 tailed beast that sasuke's team is recovering. I want a main ninja villian that is just extremely smart and skilled in a myriad of ninjutsu. i dont wanna see anymore staring contests. Bring on some ninja that are high level that just have great techniques due to research in their area of expertise. Like a master ninja that can utilize many elements and each element has like 7 techniques and their used in a way that people are forced to think to win versus staring at it then it becomes useless. Im sorta glad that all naruto does is like 3moves now. It just feels like more of a slap in the face to all these other losers who use all these stupid eye techniques.
K so i finally get to post here.
- I'm not sure if i like the idea of Itachi being a good guy
- Holy shit Jiraya died!!! But that was one hell of a cool way to die
- So is orochimaru gone for good now?
- Is Sasuke ever gonna stop doing evil shit?
- Asuma dies... but i don't really care
- Shikamaru gets cool points for owning an immortal akatsuki all by himself
- Akatsuki is going for world domination... how original
- The Tobi thing is still messing my head up
I can't really remember anything else right now, i wish i could have posted these while i read it but fear of spoilers got to me. Well i'm looking forward to posting around here, you all seem to have your own interesting thoughts on just how the hell this is heading and i can't wait to read about them.
Anyway ignoring the guy above me, anyone have any idea why Hashirama did all of this because it doesn't make any sense to me. The guy had a seemingly unbeatable Kekkai Genkai, he was the leader of the strongest clan of ninjas there was and thus had a monopoly on war and he had the bijuu as pets. As far as I see it he was on top of the world, now why would he give all that up for seemingly no reason.
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Different forums, same Abdula
So i'm wondering if we'll be seeing more Akatsuki action or some more training from Naruto. Pain and his gf are supposed to go after him but if he can't use his wind rasengan won't he need to come up with some other technique? Or will he be an idiot and use the wind rasengan anyway?
Guys, only Zabuza was involved in the coup. This has nothing to do with the other members of the 7 swordsmen.
Keep in mind, the whole reason Zabuza was working for that one mob guy was to raise enough money to attempt another assassination. Why wouldn't the other swordsmen help him with this if their goals were the same?
Also, just because Zabuza and Kisame are missing nins that happened to be among the 7, doesn't mean that the remaining 5 were as well.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Plot no jutsu.
Typical Naruto. Half of it doesn't make sense. It seems Kishimoto has a habit of making characters seem godlike only to have them struck down with little to no explanation. I would still like to know why Madara is still even alive. "Oh everyone thought I was dead. Even the first who was the one who apparently killed me, but eh, I wasn't and here I am 100 years later". Just like first the bijuu's were chakra that built up from hate and such, and when Jiraiya mentioned to the frog that Kyuubi might have been summoned by Madara the frog flipped out saying it was impossible. Now we hear that the first had them as pets. I guess nobody knew? Except Madara of course, oh and Kishi. Some consistency in this manga would really go a long way. Kishi is failing IMO.
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really the 4th hasn't been shown that much
think of sealing the tailed-beasts as kinda a nuclear disarmament type thing so sealing the tailed beasts was to make peace with the other villages
1.You will have to deal with it in your own way...
2. Jiraya did die. It was was an ok death....
3. The Curse mark is off of Sasuke, but he is still in Kabuto.
4. Sasuke isnt evil, he is just dumb.
5. Asuma was a cool character..
6. Shika didnt really kill him, but did have a great plan against him.
7. Akatsuki was all about world domination, but kinda not I guess
8. Tobi is still a mystery.
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
Similar to Archangel, this will be my first post in this subforum. I just spent all of last night reading basically all of the remaining manga chapters (having not seen Shippuden since Gaara was captured).
Everything was pretty good up until the most recent plot twist. A large majority of the "twists" have been Kishimoto making shit up as he goes along, and retconning the rest. Good read though. I'm glad I finally caught up.
Yeah, I really think there's more to Madara going on than we're led to assume. That whole scene with him and Sasuke in the cave bordered on ridiculous, in my opinion.
Thinking about Madara: Why have we only seen his right Sharingan eye? Why does he now have 3 identities? I'm also taking everything he's said in the past few chapters with a grain of salt. He's obviously quite manipulative, and might say anything to anyone. Could his final plan that he mentions to Zetsu be the same one we're supposed to think it is?
Not that I'm genuinely interested in the outcome. It's more that I think it's totally within possibility that Kishimoto will try and pull out a few more shockers before this is through.
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