Should we be reading the manga?

[UChessmaster]

kakashi`s mangekyou sharingan is not advertised for 8 chapters, it literally comes out of nowhere, so the surprise factor is bigger

[Abdula]

We really don't need to give him examples, most of what I did in the anime thread was give examples of how the manga and the anime were different besides if he isn't able to recognize them on his own then.......

[Assertn]

You still haven't seen the fucking gaiden.

[Archangel]

Actually i have.

Well maybe this thread should be closed we're getting way too close to spolers around here and this is still the anime forum.

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

The fights are just sooo drawn out and alot more boring in the anime. Not to mention people having powers that they didnt have in the manga. Neji's 128 palms wasnt in the manga but it was in the show when he fought Spiderman!

[Archangel]

Ohh... that explains alot. I was wondering why he never used that move ever again

Pity, it sure was awesome

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

Ohh... that explains alot. I was wondering why he never used that move ever again

Pity, it sure was awesome

But it took away from the fight itself. When you read it in the manga, you dont think, damn he doesnt have any new moves, but you do think, wow he is the only one that can hold his own without and new UBER-Deadly moves. Not to mention that fight was more of a guide to the Byukagan anyway.

[Archangel]

Yeah and since the move was made to close the chakra points in your enemy why the hell would you develop a technique to double the hits? Once they're closed there isn't much more for the move to do...

[Abdula]

Neji's 128 palms wasnt in the manga but it was in the show when he fought Spiderman!

You know just for a second there I pictured Neji going one on one with Peter Parker.

Actually i have.

Well maybe this thread should be closed we're getting way too close to spolers around here and this is still the anime forum.

You do know you're welcome to join the manga discussion anytime right.

[Archangel]

I'm not quite done with the manga just yet, it is a rare delicacy that i shall enjoy for a while longer

[poopdeville]

Yeah and since the move was made to close the chakra points in your enemy why the hell would you develop a technique to double the hits? Once they're closed there isn't much more for the move to do...

He threw twice as many punches in the same amount of time. That means he was faster, and more unblockable.

[Abdula]

Lol, you don't see the flaw there. If he could move twice as fast then why do twice as many attacks because then the attacks themselves would take the same amount of time. What he could do is use that increase in speed to do his 64 attacks in half the time they would normally take. Besides why do 128 when back in the chuunin exam he told Naruto there were only 64?

[Archangel]

Besides why do 128 when back in the chuunin exam he told Naruto there were only 64?

My point exactly

[Assertn]

Wait....I thought the 128 was used on the falling spiders....
In which case, it makes sense to do it more than 64 times, cause there were more targets to hit.

[Archangel]

Yes but why the hell would he develop that kind of technique anyway? The human body supposedly only has 64 chakra points so doubling the number of hits is useless.

[Abdula]

Wait....I thought the 128 was used on the falling spiders....
In which case, it makes sense to do it more than 64 times, cause there were more targets to hit.

You misunderstand the point Assertn. There is no 128 palms. Neji was able to double his speed because he received some proper training from Hinata's father, rather than training by himself. The point of the training wasn't to use some fictitious technique it was simply so that he would be able to use 64 palms faster. What Neji was doing with the falling spiders was using 64 palms, he was just using it twice as fast as normal and doing it over and over, because there were more than 128 spiders. The idiot people who did the anime decided that instead of using that simple explanation they would create a new technique, 128 palms.

Not only is that stupid because for example if it took him 30 seconds to do 64 normally, with his increased speed he would be able to do it in 15 however what they decided to do was make him do 128 points which even with his increased speed would have taken him the original 30 because he was doing twice as many attacks, so it defeats the purpose. Not to mention that there are only 64 points on the body. Frankly I was kinda surprised we didn't see TS Neji bust out 1024 when he was fighting his doppelganger

[Archangel]

Oh so those shity clone fights were not in the manga?

thank god for that

The one move i would like the manga to pick up from the fillers is hinata's chakra strings jutsu, it was awesome, it didn't affect the major storyline and gave her some cool points

[Assertn]

You misunderstand the point Assertn. There is no 128 palms. Neji was able to double his speed because he received some proper training from Hinata's father, rather than training by himself. The point of the training wasn't to use some fictitious technique it was simply so that he would be able to use 64 palms faster. What Neji was doing with the falling spiders was using 64 palms, he was just using it twice as fast as normal and doing it over and over, because there were more than 128 spiders. The idiot people who did the anime decided that instead of using that simple explanation they would create a new technique, 128 palms.

Not only is that stupid because for example if it took him 30 seconds to do 64 normally, with his increased speed he would be able to do it in 15 however what they decided to do was make him do 128 points which even with his increased speed would have taken him the original 30 because he was doing twice as many attacks, so it defeats the purpose. Not to mention that there are only 64 points on the body. Frankly I was kinda surprised we didn't see TS Neji bust out 1024 when he was fighting his doppelganger

And I'm afraid you misconstrued the point of my contribution, Abdula.

I'm not arguing whether or not there are 128 palms. I'm not arguing that 128 palms is a useless technique against any human opponent, since 64 sufficiently locks them down.

I'm just stating that the situation was different than any other battle in which Neji would use the palms technique, and therefore you can take this conversation with a grain of salt.

Also for the record, the number of the palms is not the number of total strikes, but rather the number of the highest chain of strikes. The strikes go as follows:
1) 1 strike
2) 2 strikes
3) 4 strikes
4) 8 strikes
5) 16 strikes
6) 32 strikes
7) 64 strikes

And in total, that comes out to 127 strikes.
Therefore, you could say that a 128 palm version would be able to take out 255 spiders.

[Abdula]

Also for the record, the number of the palms is not the number of total strikes, but rather the number of the highest chain of strikes. The strikes go as follows:
1) 1 strike
2) 2 strikes
3) 4 strikes
4) 8 strikes
5) 16 strikes
6) 32 strikes
7) 64 strikes

And in total, that comes out to 127 strikes.
Therefore, you could say that a 128 palm version would be able to take out 255 spiders.

You know I knew this but I completely forgot it.
Anyway, so now we're understood

Oh so those shity clone fights were not in the manga?

No, actually you could just reread the first two arcs and see for yourself because they aren't long.

[Yukimura]

Nothing should ever be pulled from filler if a show is trying to stick to a canon source. Even if it's something cool and it doesn't affect the story much it sets a precedent that it's okay to have more than one source for canonical material which defeats the purpose of canon. No author should ever allow their creative process to be impacted by a derivative of their own creation.