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    Mana seemed like a real handful. It's annoying me so much we didn't get to see how Shiki handles such a lively kid. Both Mikiya and Azaka are pretty forceful and headstrong personalities, so I guess it's easy to see where that part of Mana is coming from, but how she seemed so super joyous and optimistic is another thing. I guess she never went unloved or without due attention, despite having Shiki as a mother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Mana seemed like a real handful. It's annoying me so much we didn't get to see how Shiki handles such a lively kid.
    I think much is said with her line, "Someday I'll defeat my mother and win my father back!"

    Shiki, being the possessive, moody, and grumpy-face cat of a woman that she usually is, very likely just grabs Mana by the ankle and holds her upside down until she gets dizzy or something similar, and then makes an innocent display of affection toward Mikiya (that we've never seen and can only imagine) in front of her incapacitated daughter. They've probably made a game out of it over the years.

    Even though Shiki has switched from combat boots to zōri or geta with her kimono, I'm sure she is still more than capable.

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    If I had to define Shiki with two scenes in from this series of movies, it would be the cat-like landing from backdashing down the stairs in this episode, and the rolling over and over on the bed waiting for Mikiya in the previous sets of films. If Saber is a lion, Shiki is a nekomata.

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    And then they just make it obvious in Extra Chorus!
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    I liked extra chorus better than the film itself, but I also enjoyed the scenes with Seo. Mikiya being such a smooth talker is fun to watch.

    The bomber parts should have had more action. What we got was too little for the wait for this film.

    The Mana parts were pretty dull. The only part I liked about her was when she said that she was good at using people like her father and the bomber dude. Her character is really too different from her parents that I am forced to wonder if she is adopted. She doesn't seem to have supernatural powers either.

    If Shiki is the boss of a crime syndicate, what is Mikiya doing? I don't see either of them running a crime organization.

    Overall, I am not impressed with the main film. I liked all the parts of the extra chorus, even the emo girl in the middle. Fujino certainly is bad ass. The way Shiki got angry because she was identifying with the cat when Mikiya understated feline loyalty was also great. Mikiya's New Year's wish was also exactly like him. Watching that really makes me want to wish those two happiness, not that I ever felt otherwise. The icing on the cake would have been a kiss initiated by Shiki, but I guess that is asking for too much.
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    Wasn't Shiki's family originally from a crime syndicate or assassins? It seemed perfectly natural to be that she became the boss. She's the type to coldly walk up to a person, poke their finger with a toothpick, and then they're down one finger. While they're apologizing, she cuts their "I'm a fuckup" line as well, and then she's got an underling that turned around flawlessly.

    Mikiya is doing what he's always been good at doing. Finding things.

    Fujino definitely impressed me too. She's turned (heh) her life around, despite what she's lost. Though it wasn't clear to me how blind she really was. It seemed like she could see quite well so long as her eyes were active.

    The timelines do kind of screw me up. I find it rather tough to figure out what is happening in relation to the other movies without a timeline of each of them from wikipedia. One saving grace is there is no way that Azaka could have been at the Clock Tower the same time as Rin and Luvi. Then again, she's Touko's apprentice so I'm a little unclear if she'd even go there. If she did, Azaka would have been there sometime around 2001, and Rin doesn't seem to go there until at least 2004-2005 (immediately after FSN).

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    That solitary cat that holes up in her room when she isn't personally hunting down prey is now leading a large organized group of people? Even if she somehow could, it didn't seem like she would want to do.

    Maybe it just points to her growth by Mikiya's side. She might have learned to stop being so prickly and make use of her inherent bad ass aura for charisma.
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    After the time skip with the bomber, it wasn't Shiki who was grilling the dude. Shiki merely arrived later, with Mana to boot. Maybe that's how they do things. The lieutenant with sunglasses might have been the same dude we saw hanging around the Ryougi household in the older movies. He looked pretty much the same, having aged quite mercifully.

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    True, but Shiki is the "infamous boss," and that kind of statement doesn't mean that he alone is afraid of her (though he has good reason to be afraid of her).

    I also got the impression that the only reason he was saved and asked to join them as an investigator was because he happened to have written Mana's favorite children's book. Shiki gave him to Mana as a plaything.

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    Apologies for the necro, but I finally got around to watching the latest movie and Extra Chorus. Superb visuals, as always, and Extra Chorus provided a great follow-up story for Fujino. The movie itself had some good action points, and I loved the time jump to Mana (who looks a lot like Rin, which is to be expected I guess). I only wish there had been a bit more use of each character's futuresight ability.

    I am confused on one major aspect of the film though, which is why I chose to post. The fansub I watched (UTW) mentions that the time-jump events take place 10 years later, in 2008. The KnK Wikapedia page says this as well. However, the film itself broadcasts the events as happening in August of 2010. The point of reference that I'm using doesn't appear like it could be a QC error on UTW's part, so I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this glitch?

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