Kara no Kyoukai

[Ryllharu]

I have to admit that I am a little disappointed that Shiki didn't kill Fujino. She certainly deserved it, and there's only room for one supernatural killer who likes Kokutou. Well...two if you count both Shiki's.

The animation on Fujino's ability is certainly the coolest one yet. It looked more like a gravity well than bending for the most part, but I guess she's just grabbing a volume of space and twising the hell out of it and everything within it. They haven't been giving us a good view of Shiki's death lines recently though.

I really loved the music in this eps/movie, particularlly in the fights between Fujino and Shiki.

I'm really starting to like the narrative direction of the series, the time jumps. They so frequently jump back and forth, giving us tidbits of information that we should know all about. Like the Fujino reference early back in the first one. Only now do we see how Shiki lost her arm, why she hates Fujino and other people like her so much, and a host of other info. But each time they tell us something, there's tons of new questions.

In this one, we get to see Azaka. We didn't even know Kokutou had a sister. Now we see that not only does he have one, he's got one who completely loathes Shiki. Now I really want to know why.


But the thing I liked most about this episode, was the look on Touko's face when Kokutou came back early...

[Board of Command]

I can't get over how great the animation in these movies is. All of the backdrops are incredibly detailed. I'm dying to know when 720p or 1080p versions will be released because this NEEDS to be watched in higher resolution.

[shinta|hikari]

Azaka hates Shiki for the same reason Akiha hates Arcueid.

[BioAlien]

Akiha pretty much hate every women around Shiki to begin with...

But I see what you mean by that.

[Ryllharu]

Well, I wanted to know why specifically. Something like...Azaka peacefully gets doted upon by her brother at home until one day he brings home a woman from the hospital (if it really happens that way don't tell me).

Shiki went directly from school to home in the last episode that encompassed their high school years. Then she was in a coma for some time. She certainly could not have met Azaka until "recently," so I was wondering what conditions would bring the two together.

[animus]

I have to say it annoys me when they pan the screen on a still image for 30 seconds with nothing happening.

[Buffalobiian]

It's a great series of movies, but I didn't understand everything as much as you guys. This last one was the most linear, so that was good. Was there something preceding to these that I should have knowledge of?

[Board of Command]

Have you played Tsukihime? It explains Shiki's Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.

[shinta|hikari]

But that is not necessary, since the eyes will most likely be explained later on in the series. The reason why most people do not seem to be as confused as they should is be is probably because they have read parts or the entire novel (including me of course).

[Ryllharu]

I only read the first, which the first film covered. The only extra information was either covered by the second episode (that Shiki was known for always wearing kimono) or was a descriptor of Touka's office and only the vaguest of information about who she is.

But Shiki's eyes in Kara no Kyoukai work differently than Tohno Shiki's eyes in Tsukihime. Hers are much stronger. As we saw with Fujino, Shiki/SHIKI can kill more than just living things, like diseases, kill parts of things (Tohno was all or nothing in the anime), and even kill non-physical things like intent (when she was destroying the manifestions of Fujino's power). Not to mention she can turn hers off.

[shinta|hikari]

Tohno's eyes work the same way. He can even kill spreading vampirism inside the body (unless it has already "killed" the host). I am pretty sure Tohno can destroy Fujino's power as well. But the girl Shiki can turn hers off like you said, so it is quite an edge.

EDIT: I apologize for the misunderstanding. I assumed you are familiar with the visual novel since you mentioned "tsukihime" rather than the anime title.

[Ryllharu]

I metioned it, but did not specifically state that I only watched the anime of Tsukihime. I didn't play the game, didn't read the novel adaptations of it, and I can't understand Melty Blood because I don't know enough Japanese.

Tohno's eyes didn't do a whole hell of a lot in the anime.

[For those that don't think that Kara no Kyoukai and Tsukihime are related and think this discussion is off-topic, Touka in Kara no Kyoukai is directly related to Aozaki Aoko, the red-haired sorceress in Tsukihime/Melty Blood who gives the glasses to Tohno Shiki. Type Moon has confirmed they are sisters.]

[Board of Command]

I there there are only two differences between Tohno's and Ryogi's eyes.

1. Ryogi can turn it off.
2. It doesn't appear to damage Ryogi's body when she turns them on.

Aside from those, I'm pretty sure they work the same way. Tsukihime goes into detail about how the lines of death work.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm getting most of the stuff now that I've seen up to the third movie. I was completely lost after seeing the first two though, and had to re-read Munsu's introduction at the start of this thread to see how everything fits ins. Shiki's Eyes of Death Perception didn't trip me up actually. It was more the plot, what was happening, why everyone was doing what they did and all.

[shinta|hikari]

It is presented in anachronic order, much like Haruhi, but that adds to the mystery and intrigue in the story. It is only natural that you slowly get the plot as the show continues, so no need to worry.

[BioAlien]

This thread should give ample informations about Tohno Shiki' Eyes of Death Perception. Add to that the two differences BoC said and you have Ryougi Shiki' Eyes of Death Perception.

[Buffalobiian]

[Nipponsei] Kara no Kyoukai ED Single - sprinter [Kalafina].zip

Edit: Artwork for the interested

[Kraco]

Quite an interesting chapter. It's a bit surprising Shiki didn't kill Fujino, but I guess that shows Kokutou's influence on her. Whether it's because she thinks Kokotou would appreciate or because she's really evaluating her choices, who knows. We do know Shiki is a natural killer and actually wishes to have something to hunt so it would be easier to believe the former is true, even though she kept saying she wouldn't have liked to kill powerless Fujino (which is a somewhat empty thing to say because the next moment she could have her powers back again).

I thoroughly enjoy the anachronism and the way how they are occasionally seemingly offhandedly presenting things as if they were known, only to give a stylish explanation later if at all. I have never felt everything needs to be explained plainly in good stories for a more matured audience. A good script writer / director knows what needs to be explained and what not for the best overall effect.

[BioAlien]

[Nipponsei] Kara no Kyoukai ED Single - sprinter [Kalafina].zip

Where are those from? From the fourth movie?
Because other than 03 - oblivious (instrumental), I don't remember hearing ARIA and Sprinter.
...
Oh well, I will put them in my music folder anyway since they are kind of good.



On a side note, anyone knows the DVD release date for the fourth movie? It should have came out in theatre on 2008-05-24...
If we consider the first one came out about 5 months later.... Ah man... such a long wait!

[Board of Command]

These anime music CDs always come with a couple "extra" tracks that aren't in the anime.