Naruto Shippuuden Episode 56

[Abdula]

Why is it that you guys just try to argue everything with me. Frankly I'm just trying to show my reasoning for my opinion and why I think Archangel is wrong since his theory isn't supported by much evidence. I'm not talking high or big and I don't care whose wrong or right, I would agree with his theories or anyone else's(like I have done in the past) if I find that there is enough evidence to support them. Similarly I would agree that my theories are wrong if there is sufficient evidence to support that(hopefully this is the last time I feel the need to have to defend myself in that regard). I really didn't wish to quote the anime since the translations tend to be rather liberal and usually portray an incorrect or atleast an inaccurate message. I believe I mentioned this before when I talked about the whole lightning element "lightning edge" thing in the other thread.

Anyway speaking of the liberal and/or mistranslations let me elaborate. In the manga Kakashi specifically said that if Yamato doesn't suppress the Kyuubi's chakra then Naruto would be able to use 100 times more chakra than he could. Him talking about the Kyuubi was him refering to the difference in chakra capacity between him and Naruto it didn't have anything to do with the training.

If anyone noticed I said 100 then I'd like to let you know that that isn't a typo that is actually what they said, in the manga anyway. What Kakashi said is that normally Naruto has twice as much chakra as he does and like I said above if Yamato doesn't suppress the Kyuubi he would be able to use 100 times more.

Since we were having this debate last time its interesting to note that, in the manga, Kakashi never said that other people wouldn't be able to use the same training method as Naruto. He said that low chakra capacity ninjas like him can't fully utilize the shadow clones like that and he said the he specifically can't use that method because he doesn't have as much stamina as Naruto so his clones don't last very long.

Its also important to note that as the word suggests, a ninjas capacity isn't referring to the amount of chakra the ninja currently has.

[KrayZ33]

Why is it that you guys just try to argue everything with me. Frankly I'm just trying to show my reasoning for my opinion

But it sucks that your reasoning comes from the manga (again you just showed us that you rely on the manga and not on the anime)...and why arn't we allowed to argue?

The same thing goes for me, I want to show my reasoning and my opinion. If you are allowed to argue, why arn't we? And why are you allowed to say "don't be so dense" etc. and we are not? (to be honest many of your "I know everything"-posts do have an agressive tone in it)

It looks like you feel attacked if someone has a different opinion than you.
The one who cannot accept other opinions is you and not us. You don't have to act as the victim here, really you don't. There is no need for anyone to feel this way

He said that low chakra capacity ninjas like him can't fully utilize the shadow clones like that and he said the he specifically can't use that method because he doesn't have as much stamina as Naruto so his clones don't last very long.

he says the same thing in the anime

Its also important to note that as the word suggests, a ninjas capacity isn't referring to the amount of chakra the ninja currently has.

who said something else?


Btw I think my position (which is the same as archangels) is supported by evidence. (just read the posts, they might be written poorly because of my english skills, but I think they are understandable, if not just tell me and I try to correct it)

and first of all show me evidence for this comment

Have your seen Naruto with red eyes or red chakra? I mean why do you think Yamato is so exhausted.

when he fought neji, his eyes didn't turn red and unless he draws too much chakra from the nine tails there won't be any chakra visible at all. When we see naruto cloaked in a red chakra, then it means that he draws out so much that it actually CAN becomes visible. But if he doesn't drain so much, then it won't become visible. It becomes visible as soon as it leaks out of the body (either by ninjutsu or because its simply to much for the body to handle).. so as long Naruto is able to use all the chakra he drains, then there won't be a visible aura around him and with 200 clones around him, he's surely able to use the chakra he is "allowed" to drain from the nine-tails... and the amount he is allowed to drain is "controlled" by Yamato..

that could also be the reason why Yamato has more and more problems to control it and needs to pause.. because he keeps draining from the nine-tails which wakens him up more and more.