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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles
    A couple of things: we don't know that the third's clones are on a higher level than Naruto's. That's a third interpretation that holds no more or less water than the two I mentioned. It might be one of those skills that is the same for anyone who casts it. If the third were to cast a million clones like naruto does, each might be just as weak. We simply don't have enough details about the workings of the technique to know what interpretation is correct, if any, which is why I ventured more than one.

    Another thing is, taijutsu does take chakra. From what I've seen, after losing chakra past a certain point, even your taijutsu gets weaker. I could simply just be misunterstanding the link between chakra and stamina though. I'll admit that I'm not following that. Furthermore, the gate openings are taijutsu techniques, and those clearly require at least a flow of chakra. It stands to reason that if less chakra is flowing, that technique might be less effective. Something similar might apply to kage bunshins.

    The last thing is, how do you know the chakra is returned at all, upon dispell or upon destruction of a clone? I haven't seen that in the anime, and I started reading the manga around the chasing sasuke arc, and haven't seen that in the manga either. This is conjecture, though I suppose it is an educated guess with good basis.



    Ok, I forgot to address one thing in your post, the stamina thing. Kakashi did also mention that there was a stamina requirement to keep a clone active, which is stamina that he himself did not possess to make that training useful to him. So basically, to make this technique work, you need the following:

    1) Create clones that have enough chakra to be useful for training.
    2) Have the stamina to keep them out long enough for the training.

    Anyone who can do these things can use this technique. You're right. But, who do we KNOW can do this besides Naruto? Specially in regards to the second requirement. Also, who do we KNOW can do this better than Naruto as regards to both requirements?
    Taijutsu apparently uses up your stamina which as Assertn explain reinforces your chakra. The relationship between the two wasn't explicitly explained though. There are a few things you could use to come up with some theories though for example during the chuunin exam it was explained that for Sasuke to learn chidori that Kakashi had Sasuke copy Lee's movements and speed.

    This training was not only done to give him the speed required to perform chidori but also the stamina necessary for it. Lee specifically mentioned that although Sasuke had the ability to copy his movements there was an extreme strain on his body because he simply doesn't have the stamina required to maintain those movements so he was wondering why Kakashi bothered to teach it to Sasuke. Gai then mentioned that the training was not just to gain speed but also to gain the stamina for "body activation" as they put it in the anime.

    Basically Sasuke didn't have enough chakra to perform chidori but by increasing his stamina he was able to use "body activation" which then converted his stamina into the chakra he needed to use chidori, which is why Kakashi warned him not to over use chidori since the technique directly converts his stamina into chakra and then exhausts it, so overuse would deplete his stamina which would kill him. So basically I guess "body activation" would be what they use to convert their stamina to chakra which happens normally but this further increases it. It was implied by Neji that Oro' curse seal is a further extension of this same process.

    I believe that the gates work in a similar way in that they "release your limits" and forcibly convert your stamina into chakra which is why it puts such a strain on your body and why opening the final gate would give you an amount of chakra even greater than that of a kage but guarantees death. These are just my theories though like I said Kishi never explicitly explained it, or much else for that matter so basically everything is conjecture.

    Okay we can agree on this thats its not impossible for someone else to use the method, its just unlikely. Not so unlikely though since Kakashi himself confessed to being a low chakra capacity ninja and if Yamato is there to prevent Naruto from using the Kyuubi then its likely that this has nothing to do with the fact that Naruto has the Kyuubi inside him. If so its reasonable to think that any ninja with a large amount of chakra and stamina can do this in which case I can think of a few likely candidates. Its just that Kishi has never really given us any details on how other ninjas rank chakra wise, convenient no?

    Btw the way those were some fantastic posts. Why don't you do that more often?
    Last edited by Abdula; Fri, 04-18-2008 at 08:55 PM.
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