Naruto Shippuuden Episode 55

[Yukimura]

We knew Naruto was an idiot, but damn...poor Kakashi.


Anyway goo-gobs of Narutoverse questions answered is certainly a good thing. I had always wondered if Naruto had either shared awareness or actual control over his clones. This form of bond between clones however opens up a new door for Naruto to go thtough to get smarter, were he so inclined.

However this training method doesn't make any sense. if he creates a clone of himself and both try to solve a problem they'd both probably do it the same way since they're both Naruto. I don't see how he's supposed to learn faster if he has hundreds of clones with the same thought patterns trying to solve the same problem.

[Assertn]

I really enjoyed this episode.

Good animation and lots of buildup/information.

[Rasiel]

We knew Naruto was an idiot, but damn...poor Kakashi.

However this training method doesn't make any sense. if he creates a clone of himself and both try to solve a problem they'd both probably do it the same way since they're both Naruto. I don't see how he's supposed to learn faster if he has hundreds of clones with the same thought patterns trying to solve the same problem.

maybe that is why only naruto is suitable for it, his first attempst will rely on luck since he dont think too mich and if you have a lot of clones you have better chance to get lucky...

[Archangel]

However this training method doesn't make any sense. if he creates a clone of himself and both try to solve a problem they'd both probably do it the same way since they're both Naruto. I don't see how he's supposed to learn faster if he has hundreds of clones with the same thought patterns trying to solve the same problem.

Well, if there were 2 of you, do you think you would both think the exact same thing at the exact same time? No, you wouldn't and since this training apparently relies on trial and error this looks like the way to go.

If anything doesn't make sense is how the hell he could survive after having 1000 different memories and experiences stuffed in his head in less than a second. Naruto has obviously never watched "The butterfly effect"

[Abdula]

Well, if there were 2 of you, do you think you would both think the exact same thing at the exact same time? No, you wouldn't and since this training apparently relies on trial and error this looks like the way to go.

That is the problem, its not two different people trying to figure out the same thing its just one person. Its just Naruto and his clones and as we've seen before either in previous training sessions or in battle it doesn't matter how many clones of him there are they all think and act exactly the same, which is why they have never been effective. With Naruto its not as if your fighting multiple people as it is when, say Kakashi or the third used it, its just more like you're just fighting the same person over and over. Its one of the many examples of things in Naruto where Kishi purposely doesn't explain how it works so he can apply it however he wants later.

I mean Naruto has been using his clones since the very beginning and not only has he been unaware of this little nugget but he never seemed to have benefited from it at all. Anyway this is just Kishi's way of making up for the apparently wasted 2.5 years Naruto spent with Jiraiya. Rather cheap if you ask me because Sasuke, Sakura and everybody else spent that time actually improving now Naruto is just going to take a shortcut and most likely surpass all of them. Funny thing is they are probably going to just give him another superpowerful jutsu that he can't use properly and his basic skills are still going to suck. This is just as bad as when Ichigo cheated to gain Bankai and then went talking big to Byakuya, even though he still didn't even know how to use it properly.

Btw from what I understand about the way this works I don't see why anyone else couldn't use the same method. I get that no one else would be able to make as many clones as Naruto but all jonin level ninjas are supposed to be able to use shadow clones, I mean all you have to know is a single seal, so why couldn't someone else just use that training method. I mean even if its one clone they would still accomplish their training in half the time. Reminds me of rasengan because I still can't understand why other people can't do that either.

Good point about the butterfly effect though, I suppose it wouldn't have much effect on Naruto since this is more than likely just Kishi's way of making up for his lack of talent. I guess it really is just trial and error in which case, numbers would make a huge different but it couldn't possibly be just that simple.

Rant over, for now anyway.

[KrayZ33]

However this training method doesn't make any sense. if he creates a clone of himself and both try to solve a problem they'd both probably do it the same way since they're both Naruto. I don't see how he's supposed to learn faster if he has hundreds of clones with the same thought patterns trying to solve the same problem.

well, if you do something difficult you think about different ways to do that "difficult" thing..

so, each shadowclone uses a different way to concentrate the shakra (maybe) and if one succeeds, all the clones focus on how to perfect it and so on.
this way, he will know which way is the most efficient way or easiest way to control it.

it does make sense...

btw, i liked this episode very much... finally some more "know-how" and the animation wasn't that bad either.

"Sensei is sorry! ~gomen gomen~!" ... good stuff ^^
Yamato was awesome, too... when he made that waterfall i got the urgent desire to play Populus lol....