Naruto Chapter 397

[Abdula]

I'm trying to think back to the chapter, without actually going back to look at it, but I seem to remember the blood running down from Sasuke's forehead and into his eye. Did that happen or am I imagining it? If that happened, that could explain it.

Those don't really look like whisker lines to me. They have a fleshy depth to them and appear to be more like wrinkles or scars.

That's right. I had forgotten all about that. We still never found out what Itachi said to Naruto. That's bound to raise a few questions now too.

Yes it was Itachi's blood that went into Sasuke's left eye and I'm pretty sure the fact that blood began flowing out of that same eye when Tobi activated his sharingan was no coincidence.

I don't think they look like whiskers either, they look like old scars, similar to those one would have if say their face was crushed by rocks but I'm not going there.

I don't know why you guys think something happened between Itachi and Naruto because as DB_Hunter stated we weren't shown anything to suggest that something did happen. He tried talking to Naruto and Naruto attacked him, then he asked him one question which Naruto was answering when Sasuke arrived and then Itachi left.

[Sidnne]

I don't know why you guys think something happened between Itachi and Naruto because as DB_Hunter stated we weren't shown anything to suggest that something did happen. He tried talking to Naruto and Naruto attacked him, then he asked him one question which Naruto was answering when Sasuke arrived and then Itachi left.

Yes, Naruto attacked Itachi, but then Itachi did his raven illusion and said "I only wish to talk with you." Then is skips to the scene with Tsunade and Jiraiya speaking for a few pages and goes back to Itachi and Naruto with Naruto laying on the ground.

Naruto asks "why?" The "why" could be either in response to Itachi wanting to talk to him or perhaps to something Itachi said to him. The fact that it switched scenes is what leads me to believe that there may have been some type of conversation between them during that "missing" time. If it didn't switch scenes then I wouldn't think anything of it.

[joker-kun]

I had mentioned before (I believe it was in irc though), that there were only really 3 realistic outcomes to the sasuke vs itachi fight...

1. Nobody wins and both retreat (lame)
2. Someone interferes with the fight and Itachi sacrifices himself
3. Sasuke kills Itachi but Itachi ends up being good

What obviously could NEVER happen, however...

1. Sasuke is killed by Itachi
2. Sasuke kills Itachi and Itachi is bad

Yes, it was said in IRC Assertn, while you, Y, and I were discussing it (and probably on other occasions others, as Y said this isn't really something very unexpected).

[Chiodos]

Actually, why would Madara be so fag-ish and tell Sasuke (maybe) the true story? Then what? He'll leave Sasuke, Sasuke rejoins with Naruto and they all jolly go against thy evil : / ?

[Y]

Actually, why would Madara be so fag-ish and tell Sasuke (maybe) the true story? Then what? He'll leave Sasuke, Sasuke rejoins with Naruto and they all jolly go against thy evil : / ?

Tobi obviously doesn't give two shits about Itachi's plan. Not only did he figure everything out beforehand he let Sasuke go ahead and shoot him with Amaterasu, defeated it, then nonchalantly continued his conversation with him. I'm sure he's telling him just to get extra asshole bonus points.

What I find much more interesting is:
Madara's face had similar whisker like lines on it like Naruto's does. It takes effort to draw three lines on a face which leads me to believe they were put there for a reason. We know the Yin chakra of the Kyubii went to Naruto and the Yang chakra is somewhere else. I may be misremembering and it's the case that only the Yin chakra that is able to mix with Naruto's at the moment and that key unlocks the Yang chakra which is also in him, in which case this next theory is moot though. However, if the Yang chakra is somewhere other than Naruto then I think it's possible Madara could have managed to get his hands on it from wherever the Fourth decided to stuff it and make himself a Jinchuuriki.

His face is probably fucked up from being crushed by boulders years ago, since he's Obito.

[poopdeville]

Chapters like these make me think Sasuke should go straight to Konoha. His mission is over. Like Dumbledore and Snape, if the Hokage said it was okay for Sasuke to be back, nobody would ask questions. At least, nobody who trusts the Hokage, which is pretty much everybody important. Seriously, ANBU like Sai are double, triple, or quadruple agents, and are still trusted.

Also, this is my new goal: Every post I make about the Naruto manga must somehow relate the Harry Potter series. Especially Snape, Dumbledore, Hermione, and Hagrid. Also, how about some Rule 34 on Hermione and Hagrid?

[Sapphire]

Tobi obviously doesn't give two shits about Itachi's plan. Not only did he figure everything out beforehand he let Sasuke go ahead and shoot him with Amaterasu, defeated it, then nonchalantly continued his conversation with him. I'm sure he's telling him just to get extra asshole bonus points.

The way you said that made him sound so awesome. Go Tobi!
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If he's really Obito, I guess they better animate Kakashi Gaiden soon (or they going to release that stuff as an OVA or something? It better be good)
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After all this time of Sasuke going an rogue and killing his brother, I'm going to be pissed if the unlikely event of him rejoining Naruto happens. I'm pretty sure Sasuke thinks he hates Naruto, so Naruto better have to work harder than that to get him to come back! More action with Hebi yaay.

[Uberbaka]

If he really is Obito, then the name thing is such an obvious link then would it be better story wise if they introduce the Gaiden later when the truth is actually revealed. Could explain why they're being slow about animating it.

[Munsu]

I have to agree that those lines are not whiskers of any sort... scars or wrinkles have to be the case.

As for Sasuke having Itachi's techniques, well I really don't think it's something he controls. Probably some of Itachi's techniques will manifest themselves through some sort of triggers, but I think that's just the extent of it for the time being... nothing that Sasuke can currently do of his own free will. But, these guys are also sharingan user and one of their specialties is copying jutsus and what not...

[heero]

I rarely post here but I just find it quite funny that everyone starts saying "I knew it all along" when a year ago most people rejected the "Itachi is a good guy" prediction. http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread.php?t=15008

[Darthmoe]

Mmmmhmmm, I agree with the above poster.

[.noname.silent]

Well Itachi actually having an ulterior motive isn't really a surprise I just hope the story of why is good.

What I find much more interesting is:
Madara's face had similar whisker like lines on it like Naruto's does. It takes effort to draw three lines on a face which leads me to believe they were put there for a reason. We know the Yin chakra of the Kyubii went to Naruto and the Yang chakra is somewhere else. I may be misremembering and it's the case that only the Yin chakra that is able to mix with Naruto's at the moment and that key unlocks the Yang chakra which is also in him, in which case this next theory is moot though. However, if the Yang chakra is somewhere other than Naruto then I think it's possible Madara could have managed to get his hands on it from wherever the Fourth decided to stuff it and make himself a Jinchuuriki.

And begrudgingly, Saskuke's sharingan status is an interesting mystery as well. How did Itachi do it? Tobi is infinitely cool and collected so he didn't let his surprise phase him, but his comments seem to indicate he really didn't know Itachi could have transfered his abilities to Sasuke. If he didn't know it could be done at all how does he know Sasuke got all of the Mangekyou abilities Itachi has instead of just an anti-Sharingan Amaterasu.

I think I read somewhere that Madara was responsible for the Kyuubi attacking Konoha resulting in the Fourth sealing the Kyuubi in Naruto?? I could be wrong though. But if my memory doesn't suck and that actually did happen, it's possible that Naruto only has the Yin chakra because Madara kept the Yang chakra when he sent the Kyuubi. I could be wrong thought, don't really remember where I read that.

Also I think Itachi told Naruto everything a few chapters ago when they had a conversation that was left out. So Naruto probably knows everything now and in a couple of chapters Naruto will have a MS that Itachi gave him or some other badass power.

I still think Sasuke will be Madara's bitch and the end of the manga will be Naruto vs Sasuke.

read ch 370. it'll tell you where the yin and yang chakra are kept.

[Konohamaru]

I always had suspicion about Itachi and his non killing ways about not killing Asuma, Kakashi and Kuranai when he had the chance. He practically had them feedingo ut his hand in a few seconds. I did continue to think he was a evil guy though. However with reading a lot of threads I reckon Itachi has been a good guy all along. Perhaps he knew of Madara's presence all along and Madara needed the EMS again so Itachi made the hardest decision by killing off the clan and saving only his brother so Madara will have no MS eyes. He needed Sasuke to be strong and what quick way to do that than to piss him off and make your own brother hate you so much he'd do anything to become stronger.

I like the idea of Itachi implanted the MS on Kakashi during that scrap. Kakashi did have the Sharingan on the whole time in the genjutsu so perhaps he learnt/copied it in that short time. I think now Tobi will make Sasuke his companion and in the end of Naruto, a repeat of history will happen.

[DB_Hunter]

Itachi did not 'implant' the MS on Kakashi. We know this because when Itachi and Kakashi met again in the Shippudden era, Itachi was shocked to learn that Kakashi knew of the MS's side effects, meaning he had not expected Kakashi to gain the MS. So there is no way he himself could have given it to Kakashi and yet still had a reaction like that.

[SilentSnake]

Also, Kakashi would have died if he wasn't as strong as he was, Itachi was kinda surprised he survived 3 days of constant "I'm a needle pillow" game.

Don't bother the fact that Kakashi's technique is completely different from Itachi's and implanted MS on Sasuke is "just" copied technique/s.

The blood thing is interesting - ONLY Itachi blood?

EMS requirements - Do you need your brother's EYES or is sth else enough? (like some part of his MS knowledge/techniques).

Itachi might have done sth more than just give Sasuke a fail-safe with fail part to kill Tobi... :>

[Konohamaru]

Do you think Itachi hit Madara with the black flame before in the face? Perhaps that could be one reason he has a mask as opposed to the obvious reason of hiding his identity.

[Y]

Also, Kakashi would have died if he wasn't as strong as he was, Itachi was kinda surprised he survived 3 days of constant "I'm a needle pillow" game.
:>

This was either a deliberate lie by Itachi or just a miswrite, since Itachi almost certainly never had any intentions of kiling anyone and uses Tsukuyomi a bunch of times without ever worrying about it killing anyone.

[Abdula]

Do you think Itachi hit Madara with the black flame before in the face? Perhaps that could be one reason he has a mask as opposed to the obvious reason of hiding his identity.

That would be a no because if he had hit him with Amaterasu before and he survived then implanting it into Sasuke would have been pointless since he would have already known that it wasn't going to work.

I rarely post here but I just find it quite funny that everyone starts saying "I knew it all along" when a year ago most people rejected the "Itachi is a good guy" prediction. http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread.php?t=15008

Well I for one always believed Itachi was not "a bad guy."

I have to agree that those lines are not whiskers of any sort... scars or wrinkles have to be the case.

As for Sasuke having Itachi's techniques, well I really don't think it's something he controls. Probably some of Itachi's techniques will manifest themselves through some sort of triggers, but I think that's just the extent of it for the time being... nothing that Sasuke can currently do of his own free will. But, these guys are also sharingan user and one of their specialties is copying jutsus and what not...

I agree Madara said that Itachi transferred all his eye techinques to Sasuke so I'm assuming like Amaterasu the others will also have triggers and in future Sasuke will learn to use them of his own free will, yet another bad plot device but if Oro's powers are actually gone then Kishi would need to give Sasuke something else and like I said before one way or another when that battle is over Sasuke would have to get some kind of power up. I honestly don't think Sasuke can copy those jutsus since one of the limits of the sharingan is that it can't copy other kekkei genkai and since Sasuke himself doesn't have MS I don't think its possible, especially if all the MS users possess different techniques.

[Uchiha Barles]

Just because Itachi turned out to be "not so bad" doesn't mean he didn't have any intentions of killing people like say, Sasuke, or Kakashi. He had his goals, and he had his obstacles to those goals, and whoever they may have been, he wasn't going to let anyone get in his way probably, including our beloved Hatake Kakashi.

As for Sasuke, I do think he was trying to kill him, but that's because Sasuke seemed strong enough to defend himself against everything, at least against Itachi as he was at the time of the fight. Now, one of two things would've happened if Sasuke couldn't defend. If all was well enough with Itachi, he would've ran away and said something to the effect of "you're still weak? But, if he was short on time for whatever reason, as I imagine he was, he just might have had to make due with the less than ideal situation to accomplish his goals, as I think he did. It could not please me more to hear that Sasuke would've NEVER taken Itachi at full health, and that Madara in fact had a hand in weakening him somehow.

Um...for some reason Itachi put up the "pretense" (might not be a pretense) that he was trying to get Sasuke's eyes. That also giimped him in the fight, because while Sasuke only wants Itachi dead by whatever means necessary, Itachi needed his eyes intact, so he can't just nuke him indiscriminately. He has to be careful. Cuz frankly, if I had amaterasu and wanted to murder someone, the first thing I'd set on fire is their eyes...xD. Oh, and if the eye thing wasn't a pretense, it might've been that, considering there was the greater goal of protecting the ninja world at stake, he just might have taken the eyes to accomplish the job his little brother was too much of wuss to measure up to.

[SilentSnake]

This was either a deliberate lie by Itachi or just a miswrite, since Itachi almost certainly never had any intentions of kiling anyone and uses Tsukuyomi a bunch of times without ever worrying about it killing anyone.

I guess it could very well kill him but Itachi left him a chance for survival.