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    At least Lillia was a child of love that way... The train wreck was obviously just the way to erase Wil's persona. Like he said, Wilhelm Schultz had to cease to exist.

    Besides, wasn't Major Travas actually Wil? That's why I said it was quite a circle... In fact somehow in a romantic story like this it's hard to believe Allison would be seeing another man while Wil was still in reality alive even if not technically.

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    Yeah you're right, I think my opinion was a little skewed because Lillia was narrating that part of the story when she said he died and then we found Lillia ddn't really know Travers was her father, but I guess since Allison told Lil that Wil died before she was born, she'll keep it that way. I didn't even catch his remark about not drinking hot things so now that Ive watched the episode again, it makes a lot more sense.

    I think I took things a bit literally because the series tends to be anticlimactic, Allison didn't even show that much emotion when Wil went away, which I thought was odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Heretic Azazel
    I think I took things a bit literally because the series tends to be anticlimactic, Allison didn't even show that much emotion when Wil went away, which I thought was odd.
    I thought that was rather characteristic of her. She's hot headed and emotional, but she loves Wil above all else. Knowing Wil's aspirations, she didn't want to be the one to hold him back. Quite a bittersweet ending. Though I didn't get to cry, I got the tight feeling in the chest, which is always a good sign.

    "Some things never change" really set off all the alarms that Travas was Wil.Facial features, especially the eye and jawline matched too. The thing that really threw me off was the completely different voice. Voice changing surgery at a time of piston engines?

    In the end though, I'm convinced the only person who can get Allison into a frantic to meet could only be Wil.

    Now that we're through with a very well done, I can only sit and wait for an equally good, if not better second half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    The thing that really threw me off was the completely different voice. Voice changing surgery at a time of piston engines?
    Both Wil and Allison got their voices changed. I think it's just to reflect they are 15 years older than in eps 1-13.

    I still think it's funny how Allison's VA was smoothly transferred to Lillia. Other than that, Benedict looked pretty wild in the preview. Didn't look exactly like an international hero and ace pilot anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Other than that, Benedict looked pretty wild in the preview. Didn't look exactly like an international hero and ace pilot anymore...
    Nor like someone married to a royal ruler. He mentioned Fi raising twins, and it sounded like she's doing it all personally. That hinted to me that Fi might decide to retire her ruler status, if not already.

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    Allison having a baby was the most random thing in this series so far. How did that even happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Board of Command
    Allison having a baby was the most random thing in this series so far. How did that even happen?
    She was quite eager for Wil to come in from the balcony. That plus time skip = baby makes sense.

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    Based on her behavior Allison wouldn't have minded getting pregnant already back on the train. So, it's a tiny wonder indeed she got after they confessed they cared for each other and moved into the same apartment.

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    Just watched episode 13, great episode in my opinion and a great conclusion to the arc (wow, did this series finally get one right?).

    Even with Travas around, I wonder if Allison realizes Wil is him... if she doesn't, she must be quite dumb. Wil = Travas... Travas Radia anyone? Funny how Radia once told Allison something along the lines of "You don't have to remember the name", when now remembering the name may be the biggest clue that Travas is Wil.

    And with this new arc, Lillia & Treize, I wonder what role Allison and "Travas" will have in it, if a role at all. I hope "Travas" sticks around or does a couple of cameos here and there.

    With that said, and seeing the Hero in the previews and Fi... I wonder if they'll give their twins a big role in the upcoming series. Seems like the series likes to play the "generations" game and probably form some relationship between Lillia and Fi's children.
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    I can conclusively say that Allison knows. Why even doubt it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
    I can conclusively say that Allison knows. Why even doubt it?
    Because I can easily see the writers using the "Hmm, you remind me of somebody, but I don't know who. Oh well, I like you, and that's all that matters" card. I just threw it there, not that I believe she wouldn't know since it's so obvious, but it's a plot device that the writers could use and exploit, and I wouldn't put it past them.

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    Well, I would. Even their previous failures don't deserve such distrust in their writing. The idea is just unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
    Well, I would. Even their previous failures don't deserve such distrust in their writing. The idea is just unbelievable.
    Again, it's completely obvious, but it could play into Allison's character... she's always been portrayed as a character that does not pay attention to detail and is not good at solving puzzles... it's why it's always the other characters that solve the situations, and Allison is simply around caught in the motions not knowing what is going on around her.

    It's clear that she should know since it's obvious, but we have yet to see them interact with each other so the window is still open for the writers to make it so, as it wouldn't be out of character as obvious as it may be for us the viewers.

    First we don't know how long it has been since they reconnected. Clark Kent anyone? Remember when Fi dressed up as a photographer how no one recognized her? Again, not uncharacteristic if they make Allison not recognize Wil no matter how improbable it seems... heck, some people here didn't notice. It's no use arguing it because aside from it being obvious to the viewers, that the possibility of it being so is still there, makes the question legit.
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    I still say she does. Simply because she and Wil didn't really intend to separate for life. Maybe they expected it to take 10 or 15 years but in their hearts (to use such a mushy expression) they must have hoped for seeing each other again. They were in love, after all, and had been for a long time though neither said it aloud. So, it's inconceivable in a romantic adventure story Allison would just get bored of waiting and start to date some stranger. I only expect them to behave in public as if they had never known each other before; Wil has been "dead" for a long time after all. Moreover, they can't be too careful unless they want Lillia to notice something. Although I also expect Lillia to learn the truth before this is all over... Another nice circle considering Allison and her old man.

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    Thanks for the link!

    A new pairing right off the bat, and while the atmosphere for the two is similar to Allison and Wil, I like the new guy more since he does not seem like a total panzy.

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    Come on, we all know that Wil is badass and was just playing the fool to seem harmless. He's got the killer instinct.

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    Lilia is a bastard. I think that says it all about Wil being badass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by staffcc
    Thanks for the link!

    A new pairing right off the bat, and while the atmosphere for the two is similar to Allison and Wil, I like the new guy more since he does not seem like a total panzy.
    The traits of the AllisonxWil relationship's all mixed around, and it should make for an interesting 13 episodes. Allison's outright declaration of love's gone to Treize, but he's still the timid type, while Allison fails to openly admit hers despite her straight-forwardness.

    I like how the two are mirroring the same moves, being childhood friends, going off on an adventure on a plane again. But just as they're two different people, I have faith the plot is bound to keep us interested with new material, rather than a take-two.

    And along with some hairy shagginess, the Hero Benedict has become quite a cool, smooth talker.

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    Now that you mention it, they do seem like the opposite of each other, and that makes it quite interesting!

    I don't agree about Benedict being a smooth talker though... He sounds too insincere maybe? IMHO of course...

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