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    So, the arm is equipped with some sort of a horn. Although just seeing the physical appearance itself doesn't really reveal that much. It seems to originate from the dojo, though, and the dojo belong as well to people of somewhat shady backgrounds, if I understood it correctly when the girl (was her name Yuuno? I haven't yet memorized all the names) was talking to Murasaki. She assumed Murasaki, also being from syndicate backgrounds, would know her family. Well, all useless details, of course. But maybe the next ep will reveal something as the preview suggested they might be visiting the very dojo.

    Murasaki is a pretty strong girl already. Perhaps too strong for her own good as it affects her judgement somewhat. But if anything this incident should have been quite a lesson, and it indeed seemed to be.

    Bloody Kurenai is still apologizing far too much.

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    Yeah, Yuuno made it known that her family name should be one to be recognized... I wonder if all the Houzeki's have the horn, or if it's special to Shinkuro. It's quite cool to know that Yuuno herself should be able to kick some ass. It's interesting that Murasaki didn't suffer any injuries, or at the least it seems like she healed rather quickly... maybe there's some sort of plot point there.

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    I guess it's clear that creepy dike that always follows Murasaki around's a carpet muncher or just really lonely.
    Last edited by animus; Mon, 05-05-2008 at 11:53 AM.

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    I'm thinking it's both.

    Anyway, typical Murasaki, breaking other peoples stuff then blaming the stuff for not being stronger. Yuuno being a martial artist/murder weapon really doesn't fit her, though the conflict it represents does shed some light on why she seems so withdrawn and disturbed all the time.

    Hopefully her self-loathing isn't stronger than Ginko's since I'd rather she end up with Shinkuro in the end instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimura
    I'm thinking it's both.

    Anyway, typical Murasaki, breaking other peoples stuff then blaming the stuff for not being stronger. Yuuno being a martial artist/murder weapon really doesn't fit her, though the conflict it represents does shed some light on why she seems so withdrawn and disturbed all the time.

    Hopefully her self-loathing isn't stronger than Ginko's since I'd rather she end up with Shinkuro in the end instead.
    Yeah, I like Yuuno more than Ginko (I assume she's the geek)... she's quite kickass. I wonder if she wearing black belt and Shinkuro a white one really means anything in regards with their level of skill in the art.

    Murasaki breaking the toys and making the little shit cry was hilarious to me.

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    Sorry I guess that was confusing. I'm pulling for Ginko as I prefer her to Yuuno. I think the girl with more issues and self-hate is the one that will end up with Shinkuro (if anyone is to end up with him at all). Ginko's a computer nerd meganekko with PTSD I don't really have a choice but to like her more.

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    Bah, Ginko has nothing on Yuuno. She has shown zero personality, has had a foul personality so far, and certainly not as attractive. Yuuno so far has he beat in pretty much every category, better looking, better personality, more kickass... I don't know what you find in Ginko, since she's such an unlikable character so far. She does nothing than bitch and moan around meaningless things.

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    That's why I like her, she is supremely disturbed emotionally emo yet she's upfront about it and doesn't care that she wears it around like an accessory, plus she's a computer whiz, plus she's a meganekko.

    Yuuno, on the other hand is also fairly emotionally disturbed ( Boo hoo, I'm so depressed, I'm from a wealthy family of killers and I have crazy ninja fighting skills and I never had to worry about getting raped by street thugs or held captive at gun point by terrorists. My life is so miserable ) yet she puts up a false front of being cool and collected on the surface. Yuuno is certainly more attractive physically with her hair and body type, however her surface personality comes across as fake and that is more unattractive to me than a genuine personality that is somewhat unpleasant.

    When I look at Yuuno I see Lana, when I look at Ginko I see Chloe. And when I think about which one I would rather see happy, the choice is clear.

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    I don't think Yuuno's dilemma is quite that straightforward. There really aren't honourable assassins anymore these days. She belongs to a world of yesterday, and is surrounded by the world of today at school. It's no wonder she can't feel happy about the situation and even envies those normal people who aren't something as dubious as killers. That's not really something you can talk about with others. Plus, the more time she spends with normal people, the weirder and isolated she will ultimately feel about herself. In that sense I think she is just as honest and genuine as she can be in that position.

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    The problem is your reasoning is that Ginko is just as much a fake as Yuuno. The simple fact that she shows indifference and acts as unpleasant as she does is evidence enough of how fake she is. She's certainly in just as much denial of who she is and her feelings as Yuuno is. The difference is that Yuuno is not a complete bitch about it.

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    I don't think Yuuno is disturbed at all -- just love stricken with Shinkuro.

    She may have come from a house of killers, but her attitude indicates she is mature enough to accept her family history. She doesn't necessarily like it, but it seems to have given her a straightforward personality -- her way of showing that the past doesn't control her.

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    It's that outward confidence that turns me off to Yuuno. Dealing with your issues and putting on a good face in public is an excellent trait for a person, but I'm more interested in characters with chips on their shoulders who act according to whatever they're feeling. With Ginko I see her dealing with emotions that she's not fully comfortable with and the conflict is obvious in her behavior and I like seeing that as well as the fact that she doesn't seem to try and hide the side-effects her emotions have on her.

    Yuuno is also dealing with emotions she's not fully comfortable with (feelings for Shinkuro + guilt over family) but she tends to hide the side-effects of the conflict and thus is not as appealing to me. When she opened up to Shinkuro and revealed her inner turmoil her stock jumped a bit, but she still seemed quite in control as compared to Ginko who doesn't seem to have a clue.

    Now that Yuuno has admitted her misgivings to Shinkuro though she may become more likable

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    To me, it's far more like Ginko comes off genuine and Yuuno oozes "fake." They are both lying in a way, but Ginko has entered this world to stick closely to Shinkuro while Yuuno acts more like she has some sort of claim on him because she taught him all these things.

    They both keep all their real emotions shut away, but Ginko comes off concerned or caring (though you'd never see her show it) while Yuuno inserts herself in all of Shinkuro's business because she has power over him.

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    Just picked this up a few days ago (obviously). Benika is very interesting. She reminds me a great deal of Balalaika from Black Lagoon, but more devious than ruthless. I'd like to know a lot more about this power struggle she seems to be having with the Kuhoin's. She seems to wield enormous power in the underground, but strangely, some people know of her and several people (specifically in the Kuhoin) have no idea who she is.

    I also enjoy how Murasaki talks like an old woman. Some of the characters view her as very mature because of it (like the baths lady), and others look at her strangely.

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    I kinda like Yuuno, I guess just for the fact that I like the onee-san/motherly type.

    But man, episode 6 needs to get subbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    To me, it's far more like Ginko comes off genuine and Yuuno oozes "fake." They are both lying in a way, but Ginko has entered this world to stick closely to Shinkuro while Yuuno acts more like she has some sort of claim on him because she taught him all these things.

    They both keep all their real emotions shut away, but Ginko comes off concerned or caring (though you'd never see her show it) while Yuuno inserts herself in all of Shinkuro's business because she has power over him.
    Shinkuro grew up in the same house as Yuuno, and I think it's pretty natural for Yuuno to take a caring role when an orphan is suddenly included in the household. And when they spent years in such a relationship, it's more likely than not that Yuuno might tend to deal with Shinkuro like his business is hers as well. At the same time she might indeed have invested in Shinkuro her own future plans and dreams, because he was an outsider yet an insider at the same time. He would be a safe partner for her.

    I mean, one reason would be that any regular guy might hesitate to marry and live with an assassin. If not for the fear of getting eliminated himself but because the cops might come to knock the door any day. Cops or worse. The other choices would be to hide everything from her husband, but that would be living in a lie and obvious she doesn't like it, and the other choice would be to marry some random gangster, which obviously has huge risks. So, I don't view it as any surprise if she really acts like Shinkuro belongs to her...

    Quote Originally Posted by animus
    But man, episode 6 needs to get subbed.
    Ask and you shall receive. It seems.

    Episode 6 - BSS

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    I really liked this episode, I thought all the humour was in quite good taste.

    Though, it did feel quite derailed from a central plot line.

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    Half-way through the ep I was already wondering what kind of weed I had smoked by accident or what strange mushroom my soup had contained, so witless this episode proved to be. But it's safe to say, at the very least, the creators of this anime are fans of musicals...

    Yuuno was pretty funny, though. She really likes skinship!

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    Seems BSS is switching to ordered chapters. Now that I've found out that OC works even if you change the file names I have no problem with this at all.

    Kurenai OP (1280x720) - [BSS]
    Kurenai ED (1280x720) - [BSS]

    Batch torrent of 1-5 without OP/ED to come later.

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