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    So, that's how it is. I was already wondering why it didn't have an ED...

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    Okay, Ginko gets props for being the only cast member not to inhale when the cast passed around the LSD infused peyote pipe before this ep started.

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    She was a party pooper.

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    Alright episode, we get a bit more into the Kuhoin family... but other than that, didn't enjoy the episode all that much in comparison to the previous ones, though the character interactions are still enough to carry the weight for me to enjoy the episode. I miss the action, and it looks like we'll get some next episode.

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    Alright episode otherwise, but why the hell didn't Shinkuro fight those crooks? He should have been easily able to kick their asses but he chose to play the part of a punching bag. Why, oh why? Why must he suck? Murasaki doesn't suck, so why must Shinkuro suck to ruin the series? I hope Yuuno will help him remember what balls stand for...

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    What are you talking about? Shinkuro for the most part has been a punching bag the entire series. Watch the previous fight scenes with him and you'll see he's always sluggish at the beginning of his fights. It takes him a bit to get moving.

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    I think Kraco is referring to the entire series with his comment.

    However, I still disagree that his attitude ruins the series. If anything, I believe it does the series good, deepening the main character instead of going for the easily likable cool type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
    However, I still disagree that his attitude ruins the series. If anything, I believe it does the series good, deepening the main character instead of going for the easily likable cool type.
    Unfortunately those "deep" characters dwell in 11 series out of 12. Besides I don't believe in characters (real or fictional) that can fight yet can't. Shinkuro apparently spent lots of time training martial arts when he was still living at Yuuno's home. What use are those martial arts if some random hirelings with the skills of regular bar fighters can kick his ass as much as they want? Not only it is unrealistic but it seems poor script writing. If he can't fight to save his life, then don't give him martial arts skills, for buddha's sake. Make him a bloody scholar or something.

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    He was surprised at that point. I think he is quite hesitant to use his "supernatural" powers, which makes it doubtful he will instinctively use it when he is unexpectedly put in a critical situation. If he was more prepared, I bet he would have kicked the asses of those bastards.

    11 out of 12? I highly doubt that. I don't think those "random hirelings" are as weak as you make them sound. They probably have undertaken martial arts training as well. Its just that Shinkurou was not able to use his "special skill" against them, whatever it is. Still, I understand your point, and what you want to see, so we are not in total disagreement.
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    Massive cuteness from Murasaki plus kimono plus makeup very good stuff, props to Murasaki. Providing aforementioned makeup plus giant hat from Yamie also good so props to her.

    Murasaki's dad is apparently insane so he sucks and Shinkuro sucks for being such a worthless pushover in fights that clearly concern the safety of his charge. Look at how he spared against Yuuno vs his actions against the thugs, the difference is laughable. Unless he gets a PTSD cop out soon I don't think his reputation in my eyes is ever going to improve. I can't really blame him for not figuring out that the Kuhoin's were a powerful family full of whack jobs who have a tradition of pretend their female children don't exist but he should have immediately suspected something weird was going on instead of doubting poor innocent Murasaki.

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    I can't really blame him for not figuring out that the Kuhoin's were a powerful family full of whack jobs who have a tradition of pretend their female children don't exist but he should have immediately suspected something weird was going on instead of doubting poor innocent Murasaki.
    Based on the information at hand, they didn't know what to think. Ginko basically brought him to that train of thought -- that Murasaki might of been lying, but not realized it.

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    If even after this episode shinta|hikari likes Shinkuro's character, I'll be honestly amazed. The guy sucks so much he could put Hoover out of the market. It's incomprehensible how he first insist they go back to the old apartment and then when the Kuhoins come - big surprise there - he totally fails to put up any manner of resistance to protect Murasaki. Quite the contrary, in fact: He managed to force Murasaki to crumble back to her sad pre-liberation state in order to protect him!

    I always used to think Evangelion's Shinji is the biggest loser in the history of anime but he's a brave hero compared to this guy. The fucker better either truly redeem himself starting from the next ep or alternatively die. Either choice would satisfy me.

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    Can't really blame Shinkurou for failing. Even Yayoi got her ass kicked from Lee Chenshin.

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    Can't blame? Give me a break. I'd have fought better than that bloody piece of shit, and I have practically no melee training aside from the little the military training gave. And this guy is supposed to have trained for years at Yuuno's home, and furthermore has that strange blade inside his arm. He lost purposefully.

    He wanted to lose. Don't ask me why, but since we saw in the flashback he wanted to die during the terrorist attack, I guess he still has a death wish lingering somewhere in the back of his mind, and he seeks excuses to escape life by failing to perform his duty.

    If he had shown some wits during this show I'd give him some leeway by considering this could be a clever, if cruel, plot to reach a final solution somehow, but since Shinkuro is a cowardly loser, I think I can safely discount such an idea, although it could still proceed according to Benika's master plan, whatever that might be.

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    I agree with Kraco... he didn't use the horn even though he told Murasaki a few minutes before that he was going to use it to protect her, or something towards that effect.

    Even though Yayoi lost too, I thought she put up more of a fight than Shinkurou did, I didn't buy his attempt... he's just a weakass character that clearly had zero resolution.

    It's even worse if he goes full pedophile on us... the storyline is quite sick as it is already, and that Murasaki wasn'ts to get into his pants, and he doesn't seem to mind at all.

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    It's even worse if he goes full pedophile on us... the storyline is quite sick as it is already, and that Murasaki wasn'ts to get into his pants, and he doesn't seem to mind at all.
    You've never been around kids, have you Munsu? They'll often talk about things they don't have a full grasp on -- in some cases an adult should correct the child, but sometimes its better to leave things be and not try to confuse them further. They'll understand complex things in due time.

    As for Shinkuro -- his strength seems very hard to scale after this last fight. I think the director was trying to force the story in a certain direction and ended up butchering the character.

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    After all her conversations with Tamaki and Yamie, Murasaki seems to be of the mindset that she will get into a relationship with Shinkurou when she comes of age. That's why she finds Yunno to be such a threat now. Yuuno is already old enough to be with him, and Murasaki doesn't want him "corrupted" by her.

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    You've never been around kids, have you Munsu? They'll often talk about things they don't have a full grasp on -- in some cases an adult should correct the child, but sometimes its better to leave things be and not try to confuse them further. They'll understand complex things in due time.
    I'm pretty sure Murasaki is very well informed and knowledgeable about what she's talking about. She's a Kuhoin, this is normal stuff for them. She knew from a very young age that she would end up fathering her brother's children. She spoke often enough with her real mother, and lived in the Inner Sanctuary for some time already. Kuhoin "come of age" relatively young.

    That does bring another problem. If there is going to be any pedophilia, it would come from Murasaki attempting to seduce Shinkurou. She's been raised to believe she's of age at 13, and would consider herself an "adult."

    I sincerely doubt Shinkurou would even think of being attracted to her, but Murasaki is very mentally mature for her age.

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