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    Sadly, his weakness of "perfectly even" concept has gotten into him, and cost him battle efforts, which is probably why Black Star is more fit for that role. Kid's got more physical abilities, but his mentality is below Black Star's "I WILL SURPASS GOD!" persona.
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    I think Stein was looking at the longer term viewpoint. Kidd and the Thomson sisters are strong, but they are more or less developed. Kidd either shoots the two of them as peashooters (taking several dozen rounds as an attack on Mosquito) or as the big burst. That largely hasn't changed since he first fought Black*Star or Chrona. No new attacks, abilties or techniques.

    I wonder if Stein also saw the same thing Mifune did, that Tsubaki isn't anywhere close to her potential. They must know she's a direct descendant of the demonic line Arachne created. Black*Star trains himself constantly, to the point where he can bungle into a battle where Death Scythes are standard equipment, and only lose when facing someone overwhelming like Mifune.

    With Tsubaki's potential still to be unlocked and Black*Star's constant rise through training, they will outpace anyone else on the team. The only ones who seems like they will come close are Maka and Soul, but that pair relies on only a single attack to keep pace, the Demon Hunt. Black*Star and Tsubaki maintain a consistently high level of assaults until he exhausts himself.


    The reason the seven of them are together is because they perfectly compliment each other, just like the Ox/Kilik/Kim team. Where those three are literally a balance of two elements (fire and lightning), the main characters are a mix of technique and power. Two of them share a particular ability that the other lacks. Maka's soul wave sense, which apparently now exceeds Kidd's own, covers for Black*Star's blindness in that aspect. While she is only close range combat and a super attack, and Kidd only long range, Black*Star splits those down the middle. Tsubaki's chain mode and shadows are mid-long, and everything else is close like Maka. Black*Star and Kidd can both inject their wavelengths into their attacks, Maka can't.

    There's no denying that the aspects Black*Star possesses are only for offense. He is their striker. Kidd and Maka share the other abilities that balance it out and make them an effective trio.

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    Kid's OCD may be bad but Black Star is an idiot, and that's what makes this anime so interesting.

    If i wanted absurd power levels i'd go watch dragon ball or bleach

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    I agree with Ryllharu completely. If we consider what we have seen so far, Kid hasn't been actually training at all, aside from the team resonance bit. Otherwise he has had his attacks from the beginning and has been kind of "ready" because of that. I think he appeared much more powerful than the others in the beginning as well, but now I'd be hard pressed to call him stronger than Black Star (assuming Black Star really got over his problem now).

    I think it was somewhat clear Black Star would lose here. I'm not sure whether his poor performance against Mosquito (compared to the other two pairs) was intentional, already a sign of his fall, as such, or whether it was only due to Mosquito being so tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    I think it was somewhat clear Black Star would lose here. I'm not sure whether his poor performance against Mosquito (compared to the other two pairs) was intentional, already a sign of his fall, as such, or whether it was only due to Mosquito being so tough.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvvJoZH6_Ro

    2:15

    Not exactly what i would call a weak performance.

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    I meant before the team resonance. Maybe I expressed that somewhat poorly, but I meant he couldn't do anything in the demon form either, making him no better than Kid's soft bullets or Maka's typical inefficiency against strong opponents.

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    Well yeah, i was disappointed at how "Shaodw Star" failed so miserably to deal any kind of damage before the piano resonance

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    I think you guys are really looking at that the wrong way.

    Instead of thinking "Blackstar is weak because he couldn't even damage mosquito with shadow star" I think it's more like "Mosquito wasn't kidding when he said that form was when he was the toughest since Shadow star didn't even scratch him".

    I also think the reason that we haven't seen kid doing any training other than team Resonance is because he has already done that those things? The story has been rather vague on the difference between a Shinigami and a regular technician but i'm more incline to believe that a Shinigami develop his power as he grow older rather than through some sort of training.

    Recently most of the opponents they are fighting again are on a totally different level. Mifune was able to fight Cid on even ground and Cid is suppose to be one of the highest rank technician.

    I'm not too sure that i can discuss manga content without it being spoiler but the conclusion to the fight with Mosquito was different in the manga.

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    Shinigami indeed seems to be a strange shapeshifting monster but Kid's looks, manners, and maneuvers look quite human. So, there's no reason to assume he wouldn't benefit from training. Especially considering it's not training only for the technician but the weapons as well. And you are never too good to train. Life is learning.

    I only felt sad because it looked like Black Star's cool looking new power (the demon katana) doesn't look too effective. But hopefully it was nothing but a beginning.

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    Soul Eater: Episode 39

    Crona's decision:

    Episode 39 - SEF

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    Finnaly!

    This has been a slow anime week.

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    Sloooww

    NB : The spanish sub got out faster than the english sub.

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    Crona finally got the confession out of her system. Took certainly long enough. The whole expulsion thing was stupid, though. If they drive her away, she will likely become an enemy eventually. And considering her past, it would have been stupid to assume she was suddenly perfectly alright after a single swing of Maka's friendship scythe.

    One thing that was confirmed, though, is that Black Star certainly didn't break for good in the previous ep...

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    Crona confesses, but someone unexpected makes an entrance! I wonder what her true motives really are...

    Good episode, expands on the theme of friendships and betrayal. But, the enemy has another powerful "ally" on their side. I wonder how Shibusen will deal with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    One thing that was confirmed, though, is that Black Star certainly didn't break for good in the previous ep...
    No, but we've seen that he's susceptible to the kishin's madness, so in my opinion it's just a matter of time before we see him "break" again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nadouku
    Crona confesses, but someone unexpected makes an entrance! I wonder what her true motives really are...
    Simple, she wants to create an alliance between her and shibusen.

    Until now there were 4 power struggling for power ( that we know of ) and the 2 most powerfull have joined forces which lead to this drastic decision by Medusa.

    Obviously she will swing it around somehow to make it work more in her favor than anything else but i don't see how shinigami can pass on such a deal.

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    I'm far less sure it's so obvious. My initial feeling was she's simply tricking them for some purpose. She tried to get Crona to find the hidden demon tools in Shibusen, so she's interested in something over there. I don't see, though, her wanting to destroy Shibusen right now. She's clearly not going to cooperate happily with Arache so she needs far more desperate or perhaps creative measures, especially since she doesn't seem to have too many underlings.

    But I don't see her trying to form an alliance with Shibusen, nor would I expect the folks at the Shibusen to be too eager to do that either. Shinigami is strange so in that sense all the options would be open, but Medusa is the one who freed Kishin in the first place creating all their problems so it might be too strange even for Shinigami himself.

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    "Desperate times call for desperate measures" & "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" Kraco

    I'm sure they will always watch each other very carefully but an alliance seems unavoidable at this time. The fact that Medusa seems to be giving away Brew to Shinigami as a sign of trust in the preview supports this.

    But as i said, I'm sure Medusa has something up her sleeve and it may very well be to put her hands on that one "weapon" she seems to be searching for in Shibusen.

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    Medusa is more than capable of making fake versions of the Brew. Shinigami might know it's a fake due ot his connection with Eibon, and he might not. Perhaps Medusa is exploiting this.

    Medusa's plans are always multifacetted. She's more like a Hydra than a snake.

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    Well that could be the case seeing as she has the original, but if Shinigami worked together with Eibon in creating Brew i don't see how Medusa can hope to fool him with a fake

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    Medusa might not even need it anymore, having got from it whatever she wanted unless this very thing was what she wanted the most: Access to Shibusen once more. Or she has a plan to get it back. Honestly, Shinigami isn't the smartest boss around, so tricking him would be like stealing a body from a child to Medusa.

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