Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
If you have never been beaten your entire life, and is always the best at everything, it is only natural to assume that you will win right? That is what he did, and by the definition of arrogant I gave, he is not arrogant in that case. Its justified by all his previous experience and he merely stated fact. If he did get beaten by Hikari, its not an overestimation of himself, but rather an underestimation of Hikari's abilities, which is quite different (unless of course you want to clump them together again, which I don't really mind as long as you explain).

To put it simply, you are judging the situation as if its real. In reality, there is no such thing as a person who never loses or is the best at everything. But in Special A, he does exist, and that person is Kei. You can't really judge his actions with the usual standard, especially because he obviously thinks and acts much differently from "normal" people. Just because it seems arrogant to you doesn't mean he is arrogant on every standard (and this can be used in argument as long as the standard is clarified and explained, which I did).

I know there is a premium to humility, which indicates that one must not brag about one's abilities. But all we are discussing here is the meaning of the word "arrogant" itself (the issue about Kei depends entirely on this), and if you cannot even understand that, then I will simply end here.
Now, you're just being a sore loser. What was the point of even saying you can't judge his actions with the usual standard because he acts different in anime than someone would in reality?

"...in the sense that the belief in oneself or self confidence is in excess. That is in every definition you can find, or at the very least almost all of them."

That is your own words, and using what you presented yourself as a definition I came to the conclusion that Kei was arrogant.

Your last statement has no meaning. Arrogance ties directly whether a person's bragging, or overestimation, of one's own abilities, ideals, beliefs, etc. It's clear that Kei himself thinks he's better than a certain demographic of the school.

But my last points were moot because according to you, you just can't judge Kei for being arrogant at all because he doesn't fit the usual standard.