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Thread: Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2

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    All the princes of Britannia are more or less screwed in the head. The princesses seem far more stabile and normal.

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    You are forgetting that childish one who is like "Yeah let's just destroy China =D"

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    I cant say Schneizel is a "so-far" good person. He didnt bat a eye when Nunnally died. Nor did he seem happy when Cornelia came back. I still think he has the potential of being the primary antagonist of this series, though it would take some serious BS on the writers part since there are what 5 episodes left?
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    Becarefull, Schneizel and his bitch Canon are a serious duo that could prove to be the real baddies of CG

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    I was wondering about the symbolism behind the sequence in the OP where they show Schniezel and the Emperor splitting with blue and red shadows, while Lelouch splits into a FABULOUS rainbow.

    It seems to be developing that Charles and Schniezel both see the world in black and white (blue and red). Charles sees only the disgusting side of this world, the evil, the hatred, and all the things that make the world unfair (ref. flashback conversation with V.V. while Marianne and C.C. are in the background). So Charles wants to destroy the world.

    On the other hand, while we don't know a whole lot of what Schniezel really believes at this point, he seems to lean towards becoming a ruler that supposedly "cares" for the people. I'm beginning to believe that he's more after a Nanny State (think the real world UK) in comparison to Charles' authoritarian rule. Schniezel does smirk at nuclear weapons launching, but has continually expressed interest in Euphie's plan of making a well regulated happy place for the Japanese as well as Nunnally's reintroduction of that plan, and other "goodwill" projects. I could see how the independent city-state of Nippon could have become something not unlike a reservation or the prison camps that the real world US created for both Native Americans and the Japanese in WWII.

    Then we have Lelouch, who has known from the beginning that the world is all in shades of grey. He once liked the Britannia people, but someone among them took his mother from him. He hated becoming a hostage to the Japanese, until he met his first friend. His friend would later betray him time and time again, but he had met more Japanese people he could like. Kallen, though fiercely loyal to the Resistances, also made a lot of friends among the Britannians. C.C., Diethard, Raksharta, all people who couldn't really care less which side they were on, so long as their ultimate goals were reached.

    That's my hypothesis anyway.

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    So C.C decided to take a little vacation in her mind? I'm sure Lelouch would've appreciated her help in this most recent crisis.

    I don't know how they didn't catch Lelouch out of the forest.

    Mad props to enkoujin for calling a Anya-Marianne correlation.

    I hope they try to clear the mist in the last couple of episodes though.

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    Well I hope Jeremiah's Geass cancellor becomes of more use.... Otherwise it'll be pretty lame. I mean, all we've seen it do so far was cancel the geass on Shirley and then she died. And then the scene where he reveals to Lelouch that he's all about being loyal to Marianne.

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    Schneizel, good boy, bad boy?

    Hard to tell, but from what Canon said "So he's finally made up his mind." hints that the thought hasn't crossed Schneizel's mind. Furthermore, it means that the previous times it has, his answer wasn't "No".

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    It would be interesting if Orange's canceler was the thing that finally let Suzaku die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    I guess there is a reason a lot of this seems chopped together.
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    It's a real pity that it turned out this way. Like Darker than Black, I can only guess at how the story should have really turned out.

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    It would be interesting if Orange's canceler was the thing that finally let Suzaku die.
    I think it'll be the only thing that can kill Suzaku. With the Lancelot Albion getting Cecile Wings, he'll be invincible, even escaping FLEIA's blast radius.

    I still think Suzaku's the one who'll live, while Lelouch will die. Then we'll finally unlock possibly the final mystery of his geass: Are his orders followed even when he dies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    I still think Suzaku's the one who'll live, while Lelouch will die. Then we'll finally unlock possibly the final mystery of his geass: Are his orders followed even when he dies?
    As if he would die for something like that... I can't right now believe in Lelouch's death for the simple reason that C.C. was left alive so that she could experience happiness in life and not the happiness in death she had been looking for all the time. And it was Lelouch who was going to show that to her. Who knows, maybe nearing the end Lelouch will intend to die for whatever cause but C.C. will stop him.

    From the beginning of the show I've wanted a Lelouch-C.C. happily ever after ending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    As if he would die for something like that... I can't right now believe in Lelouch's death for the simple reason that C.C. was left alive so that she could experience happiness in life and not the happiness in death she had been looking for all the time. And it was Lelouch who was going to show that to her. Who knows, maybe nearing the end Lelouch will intend to die for whatever cause but C.C. will stop him.

    From the beginning of the show I've wanted a Lelouch-C.C. happily ever after ending.
    I'm not sure if this was discussed already, but I think this is a huge part of the discussion between Marianne and C.C. in C.C.'s head. This was the part that went unsaid. Marianne said that Charles could have given C.C. the death she so desired, and C.C. replied she didn't know why she didn't take the opportunity.

    It's probably because of Lelouch. She might have finally experienced a little bit of the actual love and affection she was seeking those hundreds of years ago, and she may not even know it.

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    I'm starting to see Schneizel as the son who wanted to impress his dad and did lots of things he thought would make him proud, but then never got the approval he was seeking because he didn't have the kind of disposition his dad favored. Lelouch strikes me more as the Emporer's true son in terms of possessing a similar disposition (I don't like this so I'm going to force it to change because I have the power to).

    Despite his apparent compassion when compared to Lelouch or Charles, Schneizel still seems quite content to conquer the world which ultimately marks him as a 'bad guy'. Maybe Schneizel would be a good and decent ruler, but I doubt all the conquered peoples would have Suzakuesque neuroses and happily embrace being put under the authority of Britannia completely unbidden. No matter how you dice it or how nice you are about it when you go around stealing the autonomy of countries with your big stick/god mecha/nuclear weapons you can't be all that 'good'.
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    Throwing this one out there, but no one thinks there'll be a father-son bonding during this "temporary" eternity?

    Maybe Charles and Lelouch will recognize their differences, get together and just talk out their problems, in which the outcome ends in Lelouch being more like his father, stated by Yukimura, or Charles becoming good like Lelouch.

    Maybe Marianne had tried to escape a life of Charles' concubines, and decided to seal herself away at hosts. Maybe that was why Charles got pissed and decided to get rid of her.

    But since it's Code Geass, I spectate that while Lelouch and Charles are busy discussing their idealogies, Charles will reveal that he had found another way to bypass the seal exits for the Sword and destroy the world, however being stuck with Lelouch for all eternity. Then, for some plot-hole existing reason, C.C and Marianne bust into the Geass Elevator, sealing the Sword, and taking Lelouch out of there (leaving Charles and Marianne behind).

    Then, as Suzaku and Schneizel start to conquer the world, now that the OBK had declared a truce, Lelouch comes back with C.C, rounding up geass'd slaves in an attempt to stop Schneizel and Suzaku. Lelouch brings Jeremiah, kills Suzaku all amidst dramatic irony that Suzaku only wanted the best for Lelouch after killing Nunally, and Lelouch breaks down Britannia.

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    Talking about Marianne and Charles, they made a fair deal about how Charles ordered the body to be concealed and sent off right after her assassination.

    If Charles knew of Marianne's geass and it's power, he may have collected it to either research on, or more likely, destroyed it so she cannot perform another body transfer.

    I'm saying this because I believe that if Marianne's geass had a weakness, it would be that she has to get back into her body before she can possess another body. Now that her body's destroyed, Charles knows that even if she survived, she would either have to live hiding away, or he can kill her should she admit to the world that she's Marianne.

    Of course, a case like what happened this week can also happen.

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    Wait, are we really sure Marianne is against the Emperor? I am not saying she isn't, but has there been any blatant mention that her goal opposes the emperor? When she revived after realizing the emperor is about to initiate his plans, it might be to help him or something.

    The same goes for the emperor. For all we know, they might be in this together or something.
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    The emperor did nothing to stop the assassination of Marianne... or at least he didn't try to solve the case (who did kill her... and why), because of this and some other reasons Lelouch hates Charles... and now we have to ask, why didn't he try to find the culprit? Maybe because he is party involved in all this.... and why did he want to kill her? Maybe because she tried to stop the Emperor in doing something important for him.

    So, I'm pretty sure she wants to stop him

    If not, then it's just another "lulz code geass" moment which nobody understands

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    Well, that's that I thought too, but you can easily explain that will Britannia's belief: the strongest survive.

    The emperor may well have thought "If she was killed so easily, then she was not fit to be my partner and equal."

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    Or for some reason, it would be better to have her dead at that point. Let us not forget that the emperor probably knows about her geass. Also, Marianne did not seem angry for being killed, as if it was part of some plan.
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