I go off of wikipedia, though I dont know how reliable it is. The one thing they do have is the titles in advance, which have been accurate for every episode.
I go off of wikipedia, though I dont know how reliable it is. The one thing they do have is the titles in advance, which have been accurate for every episode.
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Except for the posters who a few episodes back thought the memory loss was going to be some kind of amazing turning point for the season.Originally Posted by Lucifus
Nope, just plot filler.
No, it wasn't. If that didn't happen, the series would not have turned out they way it did at all (Lelouch in despair, Suzaku using FLEIA, Nunnally dying[?]). Just because it ended abruptly does not make the changes it caused to the plot trivial.
Peace.
episode was "ok"(animation and action wise) but everything is total weird now and confusing
who has beaten up that reporter guy and for what reason?
I can think of Kallen doing that, but why didn't they show us that, it's not like we don't want to see kallen beating him up :/
and how the hell did Lelouch ended up in this freaking mind-world again? wasn't the knight of one guarding it?
I didn't understand the whole Anya+C.C. part... it was like "Oh hai, there I'm Lelouch's mozza in Anya's body" - "Oh hi, ok I will turn back to normal again " - "Ok let's go then" (why do they follow him anyway if they don't really want to help Lelouch?
Ok, ok...she was probably able to get his mind back to normal again, because this "Cyberworld" (forgot the name) is back online again...but this was still very hasty...
I'm totally confused and this is actually the first time I think R2 is shit compared to the first season... I've seen worse but seriously, this isn't right....
but I noticed that the animationstyle of some characters changed a bit... (for example Lelouch) and Mad-zaku is turning into a really interesting character now ^^
Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 08-25-2008 at 08:56 AM.
Lol, so Lelouch watched Dragonball and how Trunks and Goten tried to trap Boo in the room of time and space, eh :P
Anyway, not a bad episode....but a bit too fast, overall. I mean, last episode Lelouch is at his end, now within minutes he has geass´ed half of Britannia´s army and is back to full power.
Also, can anyone explain the whole CC-thing? Did she just act when it seemed she had lost her memory? Meh, i dont like that.
@Krayz-
The Knight of one was fooled by Anya/Marianne, which allowed Lelouch to get inside without being caught. It was obvious. Anya/Marianne even zoomed in on him while he is on his way inside the cave.
You're not supposed to understand the Anya part yet since it hasn't been explained. The C.C. part was simplified into her hiding inside her own mind voluntarily. Then Anya/Marianne, who always seemed to have the ability to connect with C.C.'s psyche (must be a geass connection thing), came and pulled her out. Simple, yes. Could have been better, yes. Hard to understand, not really.
Why are they following him? Are they even following him? I think it was clearly implied that they headed to the island because the emperor has begun executing his plans, and Marianne felt it and "revived".
It was surprising rather than confusing really, at least at this point, since explanations will probably come a bit later.
@Mfauli - We can't be sure yet, but I think rather than acting, she went into a state of denial or rejection. Not knowing why she did not fulfill her lifelong (and how long it is) goal of dying, she probably became confused and escaped reality. It happens to real people when something traumatic happens to them, so it is quite possible this is the case. C.C. is lucky she has someone who can enter her mind and "save" her.
Peace.
It certainly was a jumpy experience. It felt like half of the material had been cut or never animated and just skipped. Not that skipping would be anything new what comes to CG, though.
I had no problems with Marianne residing inside Anya's head. It finally gives some justification to why Anya has been getting so much screen time. It's no use to look at it the other way around and say she should have been developed more for this. She wasn't anything remarkable otherwise, I reckon. Being a host was her purpose and it culminated in this episode.
C.C.'s transformation to her old self, though, sorely disappointed me, and I'm sad to say that. In fact there even wasn't any transformation. But to be realistic, when you look at the episode as a whole, I suppose we need to be thankful C.C.'s and Anya's meeting was even shown and not just suddenly them flying around as if nothing ever happened to C.C.
They better have something really juicy in the last 4 or 5 episodes to justify all the cuts in this one.
@ shinta
hmmm true.. I didn't realize that he entered the cave... I just thought they saw him walking on the ground...
maybe I was just too shocked about the sudden change of... well, everything... (and missing explanations)
What I am wondering about is whether C.C. remembers everything that happened when she was all innocent. I am leaning towards yes, since they seem to be well versed with everything that's happened.
Peace.
hmmm are they? Anya could've said that the King is doing "that" thing... and C.C. knows what to do now... and she follows her probably because Anya/Marianne violated the contract between them... because she said something like "if you think I violated the rules you should follow me now" or so.
Maybe it's the last chance for C.C. to do something before the Emperor destroys this option
I am hoping C.C. does remember. If not, it really seems like the other cute innocent C.C. just died and disappeared. While I love the haughty and dry C.C. more, I love the other C.C. a lot as well. In fact, I love all that is C.C., even the stuff she is related to, like pizza and cheese-kun. Wait, I kind of lost my train of thought....
Who cares. C.C. is all that matters.
Peace.
C.C. BANZAI!!!
I'll miss slave-mode but C.C. will always be C.C. But good grief this episode was full of hax and nonsense. It took 45 episodes for Lelouch to finally just order someone to obey all his commands.
There was too much wtf in this ep to fully get my head around it but one thing that I marked well was Suzaku pushing the limit of crazy even further. Now he's decided that all that matters are results so that he doesn't have to feel bad about all the bad things that he's done. I guess since he's completely raped that whole 'right method' thing that he's been clinging to so badly that he's fully turned into Lelouch (finally) but somehow he makes it look like a really bad thing.
I don't understand how Lelouch contacted so many britannian soldiers, especially the ones in one-man knightmares.
Lelouch was finally using what the Black Knights had all feared he was using on them. The "Obey everything I say" command, turning them into his slaves. Before this, Lelouch was either using one-time, phrase, timed, or event triggered commands. This would allow whoever he used it on to resume their normal lives and normal personality/asprirations after he was done with them. Either that or he simply used the command for info.
Here, he made them his slaves. He could easily (as we saw him doing) command others to bring in more soldiers, order their subordinates in Knightmares to come back for a 'coffee break,' only to make more slaves. The more you have, the faster you can gain more. Reverse pyramid scheme. Start at the top and work your way down.
What I'm surprised about this episode (amongst other things), was Marianne's personality. In contrast to what we've heard about her, she turned out to be something akin to a witty and playful girl. Not at all like the regal figure Jeremiah and Cornelia described and admired. They explained it in one line "She a good actor", but a shocker's still a shocker.
By the way, where was the thing about C.C/Marianne violating their treaty? I didn't catch it in Eclipse's version.
Despite Marianne's seemingly immortal geass power, this really leaves her weakness wide open. From all the geass powers we've seen so far, some have obvious weaknesses, while others don't seem to have any. If Marianne's had one, I'd assume it was that she has to transfer back into her own body if she wants a new host. If that was the case, I can see her dying (if at all) by the hands of Jeremiah's Geass Canceller.
By far the most confusing part for me though, is C.C. taking her own code. If it can be done, why has no one done it before?
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
C.C. told Marianne that she did not fulfill the contract when C.C. just returned to her old self, around 5:30 depending on the version. Fulfillment of the contract in this case, would be killing C.C., which makes me glad Marianne never did so.
EDIT: About the sealing of the code, I think she did it involuntarily (and could return voluntarily as well), since she did reply that she was unaware of the reason she did so when Marianne inquired. If that is the case, the reason why no one has done it yet so far is because it cannot be done by will, or it has not been discovered to be possible yet. Marianne probably diagnosed the situation when she saw C.C.'s odd behavior and confirmed her suspicions/theory when she entered C.C.'s mind and found her there.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Tue, 08-26-2008 at 07:05 AM.
Peace.
Please understand this ; Lelouch together with purple flames equals pure ownage.
This is a plot heavy ep, yes, but the thing is that it's only a warmup ep to me. Making this much revelations, can mean only one thing, that a major one is about to be uncovered and thats interesting. Anya is Marianne, so what, that doesn't bring much to CG ...
Lelouch is full of bile and back in the game baby !
Even if Cornelia was to be a Geass user, I wouldn't give a shit because whats important here, is Lelouch and nothing else.
I have to disagree.
C.C. is what is important here and nothing else.
But since Lelouch seems to be important to C.C. (especially with that expression she showed when Marianne considered not helping her son), I will give him second place.
Peace.
wow, the only decent thing in the first part of the episode that i'd missed was Suzaku's "Nina, you're a fucking idiot" moment. I'm not totally against Anya being Marianne, but I thought it was poorly executed. It was more confusing than shocking. More or less, I agree with Ryll. Craptacular pacing, lackluster 'big moment' delivery.
I like Schneizel's "oh well, guess I'll just become Emperor after all". The guy is not like Lelouch at all. He seems to be running on the low spectrum of personal ambition, but is just in the role where, really, who else could lead the country but him? He even said, "The emperor has left the thrown empty many a night", implying, that he, the Prime Minister, has already been doing a shit ton of the actual governing. And, at the core, Schneizel is a 'so-far' good person. He cares about his people. He has long disagreed with the Emperor, which can be seen in him basically arranging the marriage to end the war with China, and now in signing a cease-fire with a severely weakened (Zero-less) Black Knights.
Of course, there is only one explanation why he took this opportunity, Suzaku volunteering to kill the emperor: Lelouch needed confusion to get onto that island, ditto for Marianne and C.C. Yes, the whole coup is just a big plot convenience that, although it'll probably spawn some subplot of its own, really just lets Charles vs. Lelouch w/ CC and Marianne present take place.
Liked how they handled Gino. I hate it when EVERYBODY is just like, "Fuck yeah coup d'etat! Why not?"
I like how even though Suzaku is becoming more and more like season 1Lelouch, and Lelouch more and more like old Suzaku, everyone still hates Suzaku and thinks Lelouch walks on water.
I have no words for the silent fury that is my feelings towards Lelouch conveniently enslaving all the crucial pieces (but somehow not all!) of the Britannian army.
This episode was a shit-show of "This is how we're going to get to the climax". But let's hope Suzaku's right, and the ends turn out more important than these woefully pathetic means.
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
Schneizel smiling when FLEIA was fired really makes it hard for me to think of him as a "so-far" good person.
Peace.
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