I thought they wanted to drop it? did you alrdy download it?
That was a troll. The GG website has been full of trolls since R2 began.
Yes, I've already downloaded and watched it.
Just don't feel like commenting.
What could Nuke the Anime Industry ?
CC going Bankai and killing Vicious ? Noooo
Ugh, this episode left me unsatisfied for so many reasons. All of it was "Oh, and by the way...."
The whole mystery about Anya, and the lingering presence of Marianne the entire season? I wonder how the storyboarding meeting behind this one went. How about we just clean all of the extraneous side plots all at once by making them the same thing! There was no lead up of any kind. It's just..."Oh, and btw, Anya is Marianne."
Sure, several of us suspected Anya had a connection to Marianne, but this one is just a bit too abrupt. All that lead up with Anya the whole damn season, and with Marianne ever since Euphie went berserker, and it boils down to an "Oh, by the way...." moment?!?
Then for another one, we have Cornelia going, "You know what Viletta, things have been a bit hectic, and ya know, I think we'll just decided to cut off your storyline here. Absolved of guilt, don't even bother with Hail Mary's, just go do whatever with that loser Ogi, we don't care. Oh, and by the way...rank doesn't mean as much as you are putting on it."
Schneizel delivers another one. "I'm glad we have been making peace with the OBK, and good for you Suzaku, you seem to know what you want to do. Oh, and by the way, maybe I am not really motivated to do so, but I might as well become the emperor."
The only thing that partially saved this episode was C.C. returning for Cheese-kun before taking off with Anya/Marianne and the development of Suzaku...with one caveat.
Suzaku's little speech in the crater and the nasty lines he gave to Nina (shocking her once again with how stupid she was to NOT KNOW this it would work that way). At least Suzaku finally realized what a monster he has become, and is better off just carrying the whole thing to completion.
But...why in God's name did he bring a sword? He chased after Lelouch with a gun. He's shot people in the face with guns, destroyed turrets with kicks and done all sorts of other nifty things. But we have never seen him use a sword. It's pretty obvious he sucks with them, because with his natural athleticism we've seen two seasons of, he can't compare to the Knight of One. Bring a gun you moron! Knight of One pops out, does a little sword flourish....shoot him in the head. Just like Raiders of the Lost Ark, how hard is that?
I guess there is a reason a lot of this seems chopped together.
Not Quite as Planned [link found via RandomC]
A big ?_? from me.
Cornelia's storyline was utterly useless. But I did suspect earlier Anya had some sorta connection with Marianne. Though it was something a little out there like, Anya's a clone of Marianne or something.
Guns are sooooo last season. The sword probably transforms into that "Lancelot Albion" they were talking about, he just hasn't unlocked THE POWER WITHIN.Originally Posted by Ryllharu
Schneizel reminds me a little of Lelouch. He seems like he's doing these things for the sake of justice, but underneath the guise is a power hungry eccentric.
(edit: its an interesting link btw, makes sense why this season seems a little more...erratic)
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I am surprised that with the way you check everything to the last frame you missed something vital Ryll.
How the hell can you say 'Annya is Marianne' when Annya's eyes were geassed all the time 'Marianne' spoke? Its obvious Marianne's Geass was a mind transfer, and before dieing she transferred her mind into Annya. Even CC said Marianne had cheated... cheated her way out of death by existing within someone else.
Annya previously stated she did not remember many things... so my guess is that apart from Marianne's geass, she was geassed by the emperor to make her forget things... dunno... maybe she was also a child of Marianne? This last paragraph is pure especulation, but the previous one is most probably the truth. Annya IS NOT Marianne.
Apart from all that, I do felt the episode was lacking. At least Xingke and Kaguya seems to not truly believe the fat lie Ougi told them.
I've got a better one:Guns are sooooo last season. The sword probably transforms into that "Lancelot Albion" they were talking about, he just hasn't unlocked THE POWER WITHIN.
Clearly, since Marianne has shown nearly no interest in saving her own son, she is obviously more aware of everything going on. Obviously, she has been training Nunnally in secret all these years in piloting Knightmares. So, Nunnally, who was never really blind, just really good at faking it, will show up in the Ganymede Tallgease MK-BlizUrd (1/32 scale model coming soon to a hobby shop near you!) to save Lelouch.
You forgot that Nunnally also has a Geass that gives her the power of being totally badass.
Nunnally's geass makes other people blind.
Epic-version released?
Also, having myself spoiled, wtf, Nunally´s alive -___________-
Whatever....as long as C2 is back, all is right in the world of Geass.
Watching Suzaku get bitched by Bismarck was great. Apparently Bismarck is hiding a geass under his stitched eye? Marianne becoming Anya was pretty random but it has something to do with the geass she mentioned when talking to C.C. When Marianne talks through Anya, you see Anya's eyes have the red rim surrounding them that indicate she's under the effects of geass.
Now to address Ryllharu's rant.
It wasn't as much as an "Oh by the way..." moment as it's the anime coming to a conclusion and it was about time Marianne revealed herself.
Then for another one, we have Cornelia going, "You know what Viletta, things have been a bit hectic, and ya know, I think we'll just decided to cut off your storyline here. Absolved of guilt, don't even bother with Hail Mary's, just go do whatever with that loser Ogi, we don't care. Oh, and by the way...rank doesn't mean as much as you are putting on it."
Wasn't it obvious to everyone that Schneizel had intentions of seizing the throne? He plays the part of the idealistic man who hates war and reaches out to everybody's good side and tells them what they want to hear, however, the entire time, Schneizel has been researching what Charles is up to in order to be able to challenge him on a level ground, that was Schneizel's story for the past 2 seasons. He may have expressed to the audience (IE Gino, Llyod, Cecil and etc.) that he is going to take the throne in order to strip an unworthy man of power and bring justice to the world, but in actuality, it's been his ambition all along.
Yes that was awesome.
The anime needed a strong villain for a final battle. The battle of wits is going on between Lelouch and Charles, meanwhile, Kallen and everybody else will fight Suzaku in a battle of power (knightmares) or else this show wouldn't have a flashy conclusion. There needs to be a giant wtf-tastic Knightmare battle, especially with them hyping Lancelot Alberon. Also, Lloyd refusing to give Suzaku the Lancelot was great. Lloyd is a very underplayed character, he is aware of everything and just plays the idiot. For example, him telling Nina she'd either have to give up science or give up her conscience (although that's pretty obvious when you're fucking developing a nuclear warhead) and him knowing Suzaku's not right in the head at the moment and giving him Lancelot Alberon would be insane.
Sword fights > Gun fights. Also anybody else find it funny Bismarck carries a miniature version of the sword his Knightmare has?
That was certainly interesting...yet not very surprising. Geass is still entertaining to me and definitely worth watching but a lot of it seems to be a crapshoot and the writers just going with "What will make our readers have the biggest shock/surprised reaction?" and then going with it. I'm interested in who's working with Marianne...(she asks C.C. "Are you still on our side?")
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
I can concede a few of my other rant points, but this one was by far the biggest problem.
Yes, I agree that it was well beyond time Marianne's role in all this was finally addressed, but the way they went about it was beyond poor.
Do they address whether Anya coming into contact was Marianne attempting to assert her personality? Nope. They really do come across as an, "Oh by the way," moment by showing Marianne declaring herself and then immediately going off to do whatever she and C.C. are up to.
It's called poor pacing.
Anya has had very little screen time overall, and very little development. While that would normally be fine if, like C.C., Marianne was Anya from the very beginning and hiding her true personality. But from what C.C. explained about the possession of Anya being Marianne's Geass, and moreover violating that contract, it changes who Anya is. Anya becomes a victim, forcably possessed by Marianne. The proof of course being all of Anya's aforementioned memory gaps, and her confused gravitation towards Lelouch.
But we can't really be sympathetic towards Anya like we could say, Shirley. Anya had only that development. We know nothing else about her other than the no-longer-mysterious seizures she was getting.
So, I think it very much is an "Oh by the way" as a result of poor pacing. There was never any time to develop Anya's character, or slowly work in seizures and gaps she was having. Maybe show her acting a little different around people when Marianne's personality asserts itself. Marianne is after all, "a great actress," according to our favorite witch. It might have been a little obvious what was going on if we caught sight of Anya's red-limned, geass-ensorced eyes, but then we'd be able to speculate like crazy if it was Lelouch who did it to her, the Emperor, or someone else we didn't know. Instead, we just got two seizures that no other characters mentioned or noticed. No inquries, no questions, and when she does it a third time..."Oh by the way, I'm Marianne now."
They just skip over everything to cover up for all the time wasted on worthless filler added to make every episode end on a cliffhanger.
I agree with everything here. They conveniently ended all the little side plots in one episode.
Viletta - her role in the series is over
Cornelia - she offers nothing and just follows Shneizel around
Anya - she's the vessel for Lelouch's mother, hence all those geass "moments"
Marianne - see Anya
CC - the whole thing with cute and innocent CC is over after she abruptly returns to being her old self
Kallen - after her brief reunion with Lelouch, she's immediately demoted to just another minor character
Well with this episode, it looks like my hopes for a season 3 die. Like Ryll has said all the side plots are all but gone. Marianne as Anya was forced on the plot only because there are 5 episodes left.
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I, for one, am fine with all the side plots ending. There were simply too many loose ends hanging around, and very little time to finish them. The way the story went is also pretty good, unexpected, and yet still makes sense. The only real complaint here is the pacing, which I completely agree with.
A lot of things were rushed, and thus leaves everyone feeling unsatisfied. R2 has so many things going on all at the same time. I wish they stretched it out to 37 episodes or something to make it flow better, without the gigantic time skips that make it seem we are only watching climax moments in each episode. Still, this has been going on ever since CG season 1 (episode 24-25 anyone?) so it isn't anything new.
I don't think the Cornelia and Villetta roles will end as they are at present. They were simply developed too much to just be discarded as worthless characters. There are 5 episodes left, and that is like a season of story and plot twist for Code Geass.
Also, as long as C.C. is back, everything is fine with Code Geass, like Lucifus said.
Peace.
Four episodes left according to the page that Ryllharu linked to.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
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