Mmm Cornelia. I swear she's got everyone beat in bust size probably.
Mmm Cornelia. I swear she's got everyone beat in bust size probably.
It really sucks that Lelouch's geass caused Suzaku to fire FLEIA. It will just give him another reason to blame Lelouch, even though it was probably his own damn fault for putting himself in that situation. But I don't quite understand how Lelouch's 'live on' command translates into launching a mega warhead that is not in the direction of the person directly attacking him.
It is also very interesting that Nunally didn't die at Rollo's hands. It makes the whole situation with Rollo very unpredictable.
With Nunnally dead , if the Japanese betray Lelouch now, I don't think he will even have the will to continue anymore. He'll be completely screwed. Maybe theres a chance that Diethard will play a major role in preserving zero's image for the time being.
Suzaku intended to lauch FLEIA and kill Zero, Kallen and himself because the Gurren as kicking his ass so badly. The "Live" command made him miss so that he would not take himself out due to the enormous blast radius. So the shot goes directly for the palace, "killing" Nunnally and everyone else.
Why then, was Schineizel smiling when he specifically saw the FLEIA hit the palace (thus "killing" Nunnally)? Is it because he would know that something like that would break Lelouch's determination?
("Killing" Nunnally because this is first and foremost, a Sunrise series. Even seeing a body is not good enough. We need to see the blood drain out of them, like with Euphie and we need to see them buried.)
That's probably it. Lelouch originally started everything for Nunally's sake, and how that she's gone, he'll probably break down as well.Originally Posted by Ryllharu
Are you sure about that? To me it seems like Suzaku did not intend to launch FLEIA at all. He just wanted Kallen to kill him. He grabbed the gun from behind Lancelot's back only after the 'live on' command had been activated and he had safely gotten out of the gurren's way. I don't see how he could have possibly launched FLEIA whilst Kallen was still attacking him. He didn't have enough time.Originally Posted by Ryllharu
Sayako used some ninjutsu and teleported her and Nunnally to safety.
It's that simple.
i find it interesting that this is as plausible as "she's dead in the explosion that killed everyone else around her".Originally Posted by Idealistic
anyways... it's kind of cool that Suzaku killed Nunnaly the same way Lelouch killed Euphemia...
Yes, now Nunally is dead! Took fucking long enough. And cool new weapons as well. I love how they try to develop the character of every fucking ant in this series. Its almost as if the writers couldn't possibly put more focus on the people that actually matter.
Im not convinced she's and Ryll said before this is Sunrise were talking about here. Lelouch is emotionally screwed now that his sister is dead and with no C.C. to comfort him this time makes it all the worse for him.
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I'm going to go with Ryll here ...
Fact is that Nunnaly and Sayoko being dead "just like that" in a Sunrise franchise sounds just stupid.
Mega Weapon of sure doom will get countered by the simple fact that they were in an escape shuttle that could easily kick some Mach7 speed. Thus, they are still alive (more like 50/50 to be, knowing Sunrise).
Kallen is back and kicking ass, Cornelia is out, Suzaku killed millions of his own kind and the person (Blind, young, caring and cute) he lived his childhood with, Orange got upgraded to SiegFriedShutterlandSniperthingy, Scheinzel is coming to town, Dad coming to see the party from the other side of the street, nukes, side chars dying, OBK loyalty to Zero falling apart.
If you don't think this ep is good, go get yourself checked by Keiko Nobumoto and have your standards reviewed.
(Note : Cowboy Bebop was a Sunrise prod too, even tough that the main characters are actually dead or believed to be dead.)
(Did I triple posted? if I did, sorry.)
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The empire will probably find a way to blame the Black Knights for the nuke. It really didn't matter for me that Nunully died aside from the effect that Zero needed to have a 1 episode comeback from depression. What really affects me that the black knights lost a very vital agent which is Sayoko. Assuming she did die. But I'm still hoping for the teleportation theory,,,
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If Rolo was in the same hangar as they were and yet he somehow managed to escape (maybe 5 sec geass head start), then it's not out of the real of possibility that the Nunully express with someone onboard who knew what the FLEIA was could have made it out in time.
I wish they'd kill off Rolo already.
Rolo hijacked a Knightmare and was waiting outside the hanger to shoot down Nunnally's shuttle. He only escaped because he was in a Britannian Knightmare and everybody else was going "GET THE FUCK OUTTA THERE!!!" Just wondering, did they ever define FLEIA? In the beginning of gg's sub, they had a note that said Freya=FLEIA (cause they had been calling it Freya until that point) and then said it was some stupid Britannian Engrish acronym, but I didn't see it defined...Originally Posted by xtallography
Also in the intro, they show what I believe is Tristan and the Mordred in line with the Black Knights knightmares...next episode is Betrayal, either we finally explore Anya's weird geass reactions and she joins Lelouch as like..his other sister, Lelouch finally kills Rolo or Suzaku once again betrays Lelouch by blsming the destruction caused by FLEIA on him.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
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Still don't understand why it took Cornelia so long to escape, I mean she had plenty of time to, but why that exact time.
@CK - The last one isn't really betrayal though, but more like denial and transfer of guilt.
@animus - it looked as if she was struggling to use the tool to escape, so maybe that delayed her a bit. The other reason might be timing, since escaping without a diversion is bound for failure.
I could wish for nothing more right now than for Anya to join the Black Knights (because she is loli, and mysterious is always a plus) and explore her past a bit (well except for more C.C., but that's a given)
I think Nunnally and Sayoko are alive. Their death would be much too abrupt otherwise.
We see Kallen crying in the next episode. It's probably because of Nunnally and Sayoko being "dead", but could it also be because of what happens to Lelouch?
I personally want Lelouch to snap at Rollo for failing to save Nunnally, then Rollo finally deciding to kill (or is double suicide more likely?) Lelouch upon realizing he was being used. C.C. will then kill Rollo since she is immune to his geass (and he does not know it, I believe). This scenario means more C.C. slave mode and Rollo finally dying.
On the Suzaku topic... I don't really blame him for the explosion. It was one of those things they (Lelouch or Suzaku) had no control over. The one to be blamed should be Nina (who created the damn thing) and Schneizel (for planning it to result the way it did). I think Suzaku also explained the "live" command to Schneizel, so he knew that if defeat was imminent, Suzaku would have no choice but to shoot FLEIA. This part is just speculation, though.
Peace.
I'm not sure C.C. is right now up to killing anyone, even in self-defense. She's still pretty much in the slave / servant mode, which doesn't even allow her to defend herself.Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
Not herself. but her master who is probably the kindest person she has ever met. It only makes sense that the slave protects the master, even if she isn't inclined to do so (I believe she would want to in this case though).
EDIT: Rollo would also be completely off-guard since he believes that his geass is in effect. A nice attack from behind should be enough to incapacitate him at least, if not kill him.
Peace.
Mayhaps defend her ever so kind master? Haha, I wonder how they'll play the next episode out.
In any case, if such a scene is to appear there is only one thing I hope as sincerely as I have hoped anything regarding this series: That C.C. doesn't save Lelouch by jumping between the blade and him, sacrificing her own life to save Lelouch. C.C. has been the saddest character of this series all the time and such an ending would be cruel without equal, now that she finally has a chance, no matter how slim (now that Lelouch is crumbling), to some degree of happiness.
I imagine Rollo knows that the granter of the Geass is immune to the effects. He did grow up inside one of the cult compounds after all. It would be more of a question whether C.C. is still immune to Lelouch's geass.
If I remember right from the World of C episode, her code is gone, despite Lelouch still having his Geass.