So immensely sad....CC......tears...
Christ nina pisses me off; glad to see Suzaku getting left in the dust.
I'll remember Kallen smacking that sob till the day I die. >=)
So immensely sad....CC......tears...
Christ nina pisses me off; glad to see Suzaku getting left in the dust.
I'll remember Kallen smacking that sob till the day I die. >=)
Wait, I'm confused. I rewatched the Eclipse subtitled version this time, and there is no real indication that Lelouch became immortal at all. I thought that I missed it because I was watching the raw (it happens especially when bombarded by specific terms like CG), but after seeing it again, it seems that C.C. simply lost her power because the process of Charles killing her was incomplete. Charles can't be dead since he is already immortal. Lelouch is probably wearing his contacts (thus his geass was covered) when he was shown together with C.C. at the end. This means that Lelouch is still the same as before, with Charles still alive and C.C. all maso-loli on the inside.
Correct me if I'm wrong though, since I'm not entirely sure if I missed something or not.
EDIT: I considered that the whole sequence with Lelouch and the emperor might be fake, but even after Lelouch managed to get through the thought elevator the bloodstains from the gunshots were still on Charles shirt.
Peace.
I'm almost certain I've seen the cult's mark on Lelouch's forehead. I'll have to wait tonight to find the appropriate image. So unless this was all brain washing...Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
I checked again (and no, I can never get sick of seeing C.C.) and there is no mark on Lelouch whatsoever.
EDIT: So C.C. has now done a complete turnaround. I think the description of what she can do from the get go is to let the viewers see that this is the exact opposite of the C.C. that Lelouch met. C.C. was arrogant, independent, intelligent, lazy (and generally does not do housework) while the new C.C. is the exact opposite, being servile, able to clean, and can count only up to 20. I wonder what would happen to her Pizza addiction.
Haha, I spell Pizza with a capital P now by instinct.
EDIT2: I realize that I have to give a bit of credit to Nunnally for saying to Suzaku what he did not want to hear and admit the most, the fact that they (him and Zero) are almost the same now (only he is worse, but that has been proven).
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Mon, 07-21-2008 at 06:14 AM.
Peace.
Nice C2 episode,and I think I'm also gonna like the next one due to C2's new personality and screentime. I like the C2 now and I will definitely gonna like Maso-C2 more. I wonder how will the emperor escape the system now that he is trap inside..
PS: Shinta already guessed C2's wish of dying way back season 1. Lol
Now we have a reason why Shirley had to die, it was to leave room to C.C.Maid.
I know I repeat myself, but her words after the change really impressed me. It was well done, or maybe I'm just sold to her nowlike many other followers before myself.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Welcome to the order, David.
Now let us worship the hot babe on the outside, loli-slave-maid on the inside goddess.
I am still heartbroken over this change though...
Peace.
Do you mean you lost faith in your Goddess only because she stumbled a bit? Blasphemy!
In that ep she gained a lot of depth, because we finally got a little more on her story, rather than flashes from her sufferings.
And I find the "Reset" pretty interresting for all of the possibilities it offers.
I can even see a hapy-end to the series, at least it's possible.
So now the most important scene to come is the first pizza she'll get after her reset.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
I can just imagine the rapture on her new innocent face once Lelouch feeds her that "unique food item". The undressing scene in the preview is most promising too.
I never lost or will lose faith. I am just in the process of adjusting at present.
Peace.
This episode was orgasmic.
Amen.
So far, I think this was the best episode in all Code Geass R2... dunno if I really want the series to end this season...
I bet it will now. Very few mysteries left, 10 more episodes to go.
Peace.
Can I join the C.C. Worshipper group now? I know I voted for Kallen but this....I CAN'T STOP WATCHING IT. Can't wait for the next ep. Seems like she was beaten alot for not being obidient or when she did something wrong. I mean when Lulu steps towards her when she takes off her shirt she thinks he is gonna beat her xD....it's sad really = (
I still like Viletta and Milly the best...less competition for me!
shinta misses her sexy know-it-all side. The one she used to lord over all beings because she had lived so long.
C.C.'s geass must have been an enormous curse, hidden beneath what she saw as a blessing. It wasn't all that different from Lelouch's, only it functioned all the time. It seems like she realized that after she became the immortal one, which is why she always seemed to have a soft spot for Shirley and the other girls that have taken a liking to Lelouch since the series began. Not the throng of rabid fangirls like we saw in the Academy episode, but the serious ones. Not even Kaguya, who is more of a political/idolized love. So yeah, just Shirley and Kallen as of R2.
No one ever really loved C.C., except for Mao. But his got twisted in it's own way, and it wasn't the kind of love she really needed.
That's probably why Lelouch was able to bring her back alive, and why she lost all her memories. Instead of dying in despair, Lelouch would have the chance to show C.C. (the real C.C., before she got corrupted by the power her Geass held) what being loved and cared after really is. It just wouldn't be a proper Sunrise series without a few gushy love side plots.
The next few episodes should be very interesting with that set of developments.
I like how a new plot is added every 2 episodes. It really keeps the series intact.
@Ryll - well, another reason why I feel sad about this change is the fact that I feel sorry for both C.C. and Lelouch. The issue about Lelouch is obvious. Some may argue though, that C.C. is better off without her memories, but we should not forget that the other C.C., the immortal bad ass one, disappeared without ever knowing true love/happiness. In a sense, she "died" in despair. It is just too unfair if the persona that endured hopelessness for that long, the one that sacrificed her one true wish to save Lelouch, simply stopped existing.
Peace.
I'm still getting over the fact that bad-ass C.C. is gone. Damn opportunity cost. Luckily, (her) good-ass is here to stay.
Is there more to understand about the Thought Elevator besides "It's a system that interferes with thought"? I don't quite get what it is, and whether it's the same, or part of the Sword of Akasha.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Well I'm sure the badass C.C. persona is gonna make a comeback in the future.
Well we can see in the end that Lelouch doesn't have a Geass anymore... which means he is probably the new Geass-Master
but:
I want to quote that, because I'm also confused...
when did the "switch" happen? did it happen when C.C's wish was fullfilled? (being loved?)
so once the contractor fullfills the wish, the geass-master will lose his/her memory?
Why didn't that happen to V.V.... what was his wish anyway?
And did the nun force C.C. to kill her or something? If I'm not mistaken from what I saw in this episode, the contractor has to kill the geass master... so it would be impossible for the king to kill C.C. because he is a geass master himself now, isn't he?
Can one geass master kill another one? I don't really get it.
And who are the geass masters of the little children in the facility? Is it possible for one to have more than 1 contractor at the same time, or are they simply enhanced by some weird genetic-technology?
why's that? I thought C.C. true wish was "true love" and not "death" in the end... that is if my theory is right that the one who fullfills the wish will become the new geass master. And the old master will simply lose his memory of being a master..Some may argue though, that C.C. is better off without her memories, but we should not forget that the other C.C., the immortal bad ass one, disappeared without ever knowing true love/happiness. In a sense, she "died" in despair. It is just too unfair if the persona that endured hopelessness for that long, the one that sacrificed her one true wish to save Lelouch, simply stopped existing.
so the "immortal bad ass C.C" died knowing that her wish of "true love" is fulfilled now.... however she didn't want Lelouch to take on the "side effect" which comes when the wish is fulfilled...namely immortality, Lelouch however "told" (with his actions) her that he doesn't care and thats why C.C. decided to accept Lelouch... at least thats what I thought is the case... so yes she "died" in a certain case... but it isn't a sad death... she had everything she wanted in the end and she probably knew what happens to her after the switch has been made... and maybe, just maybe she hoped that she will be able to love him back even after loosing all her memories or something like that ^^
well this is too complex for me at the moment... it would be nice if someone is able to explain the connection to this "Lady Marianne" (who the hell is she anyway? Lelouchs mother?) and the whole contract thingy... and what happened to V.V. now... why isn't he immortal anymore?
so many questions 8[
really? for me, only a few mysteries were cleared... but another 1000 just came out of the blue.I bet it will now. Very few mysteries left, 10 more episodes to go.
for example why V.V. was able to control that funny-cube-mecha
or why cornelia knew the weak spot of that robot.
what was she doing there anyway? she thought V.V. killed euphy?
And didn't C.C. wish to end the "geass linage"?
why is she able to end it? from what I've seen there were like 5000 geass masters in the first intro of R2... so how could she possible end it?
Isn't it impossible anyway? Because if you are a geass master, you are immortal... and if the contractor fulfills your wish,( I don't know how the switch is made) then the contractor will gain immortality while the "now-ex-master" loses it... so there are always 5000 geass-masters and there is no way that this number will be reduced.
unless one geass-master cann kill another geass-master (which seems to be the case, since the emporor was able to kill C.C?)
btw, its possible that some of my questions have been answered in season 1 or even 2... if thats the case it would be cool if you can tell me what was said and when (because I can't rewatch them since I don't have season 1anymore) ^^
Last edited by KrayZ33; Tue, 07-22-2008 at 10:17 AM.
I think it is better to think of geass users and masters in terms of levels (well, since that is what they are). One starts out as a geass user after making a contact, then eventually kills their master and gains immortality at the cost of their geass, but this does not necessarily mean that the rank of power they gained while leveling up their geass becomes void. So technically, they moved up, so if rank determines whether a user can kill a master, a master will definitely be able to kill another master. Charles already killed V.V., so it only makes sense that he is still able to kill C.C. as well.
About Lelouch's eyes not showing the geass, he probably had his contacts on.
About the mysteries in the series, those are very very minor compared to what has been revealed this episode. They are not central to the plot, and as such I think they will be addressed very briefly.
I doubt your theory is right. Killing seems to be the only way of succession, and C.C.'s original wish was indeed to die (don't forget C.C.'s flashback that proves this point). But that does not have to stay that way, since she just chose to save Lelouch over fulfilling her wish this episode.
About the children in the geass base, please do not forget that the place is a research facility for geass. They are trying to produce them artificially, so they probably did not have a master, or V.V. sired them, since one master can have several million contracts for all we know (two contracts at one time is confirmed though).
Peace.
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