Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2

[Naruto_RNG]

Its funny how suzuku is saying all that crap, and want for others to trust him when he was the one who killed his father. I don't think I can trust such a person. When is he going to die?
Guys wut happened to the suit that Lelouch and C.C were piloting in the end of season 1. Don't remember if it got destroyed or not. As much as I want the BK to win their fights, I hate to c a single vs multiple and it wins. So I too am hoping others are getting upgrades too.
Who should take suzuku's life? I would of said Lelouch before, but now I want one of his friends kill him.

[Ryllharu]

I can't believe I forgot about those parts right at the beginning of this episode, supporting most of the statements I've made about Nunnally.

3:00-3:10
Nunnally: "Is Suzaku lying to me? But even Brother's...What has happened between the two of them?"

Not that even an idiot wouldn't have been able to tell that Lelouch was acting very strange about the phone conversation, but rather that Nunnally's first question is whether Suzaku has been feeding her lies. She also knows right away that there is something wrong, and that they are on opposing sides.

[Shinji Ikari]

She wonders wether or not he is feeding her lies, but for some reason she screams out to him like a little baby at the end of the ep, conveying a sense of trust towards him. These two things are contradictory... Probably mostly because the creator didn't think that far.

[shinta|hikari]

She shouts for him because she heard his fucking stupid voice over the speakers of the lancelot. If she even thought for half a second that Lelouch was there, she would have shouted "Brother!!!" before even considering Suzaku.

Now, I am pretty sure she knows that Lelouch is Zero (because she heard the shout at the end of the episode), but like Suzaku in S1 will keep denying it until more evidence surfaces. It is great that she does value her brothers words more as Ryll pointed out, but Lelouch doesn't know this, and I pity him for it. I hope that C.C. does a good job (which means an entire episode of screentime for me) of pulling him back up from despair.

I am also glad that C.C. has started to show more emotion about her concern for Lelouch. When she depended on Kallen in this episode, she made a very worried face, not for some goal but rather out of genuine concern for Lelouch. Maybe their relationship will move further in the next episode, especially with Zero in shambles.

About asking C.C. questions... It is probably because she would not answer them. So far, the only times C.C. ever revealed such information was when it was absolutely necessary, like when Nunnally was kidnapped, and when V.V. has become a direct threat to the rebellion. Some new events (like this Nunnally thing) might force her to reveal some more information.

EDIT: Oh wait, let us not forget... Nunnally was, maybe even still is in love with Suzaku. How can I miss this stupid fact? Still, I don't think she would pick Suzaku over Lelouch. It might be a different story if she finds out her brother is Zero, considering how naive she can be.

EDIT 2: Just rechecked some parts of the episode. When she said the line Ryll quoted, she didn't trust Lelouch's words over Suzaku completely. While she did doubt him first, she actually expressed that her brother might be lying to her as well right after. The way she said it also showed the same amount of suspicion, rather than any form of trust for Lelouch.

[Buffalobiian]

DIT 2: Just rechecked some parts of the episode. When she said the line Ryll quoted, she didn't trust Lelouch's words over Suzaku completely. While she did doubt him first, she actually expressed that her brother might be lying to her as well right after. The way she said it also showed the same amount of suspicion, rather than any form of trust for Lelouch.

When she said that, she wondered if Suzaku is lying to him. She then says "Even Brother's...."

She's not suspicious that Lelouch's lying, since he said that he is already. She aknowledges the fact that her brother is lying and acting strangely (pretending to be another person), and that Suzaku may be lying to her.

She's just trying to put the two together based on just a short conversation.

[shinta|hikari]

I didn't read the subtitles. I got it from the actual Japanese, which I am certain is more accurate.

What she meant by "Demo Onii-sama datte..." is indeed "But even brother is...", yet that translation does not capture the nuance in her words. She was wondering why her brother would say such a thing (and need to pretend to be strangers), meaning she does not trust him completely.

What I meant before (about Nunnally thinking Lelouch may be lying) were not the words after the disclaimer, but rather the whole issue. So it is not like she suspects that only Suzaku is lying, but also has doubts about her brother's truthfulness.

[Shinji Ikari]

I think that what she means by Lelouch lying is in the fact that Lelouch wanted to pretend in front of Suzaku, since right after she makes that "Demo, nii-san datte" she comes up with the what happened between Suzaku and Lelouch... a subtext to that could be "why would Lelouch want to pretend in front of Suzaku"

Edit: Just a thought. And if so, she would not question Lelouch's truthfulness towards her but rather Suzaku. Which would add to her doubting Suzaku even more.

This is mostly my wishfull thinking though, since I would hate for Nunally and Zero to end up on different sides.

[shinta|hikari]

Let me put it simply. In that situation, if Lelouch was telling the truth about the whole issue, Suzaku would definitely be lying. With Nunnally not being sure if Suzaku is lying (and to what extent, since Suzaku's last comments were definitely lies from any point of view), it automatically casts doubt on Lelouch's honesty as well. Add to that her doubting words "But even brother is (acting strange)", it cannot be denied that there is suspicion, and confusion on her part.

I still believe that she trusts Lelouch more since she doubted Suzaku first, but there is definitely doubt in her mind, especially now with the voice she heard at the very end.

EDIT: Put even simpler, If she trusted Lelouch completely, there is no point in even doubting that Suzaku is deceiving her, since that is the natural conclusion.

[vejita613]

Anyway I have the feeling that this series will not end in Lelouche's victory, I think it will be more mixed ending that somehow give Lelouche what he wants yet not exactly in the way he expected. I know im being kind of vague here but knowing Sunrise i might be giving them too much credit.

I know exactly what you mean. Basically I can see the series end like this: Lelouch is successful in taking down the emperor and crushing Britainia (or atleast leaving it in a lot worse shape than it is right now). However, he will probably having nothing once its all said and done. Suzaku will probably be dead. Nannully will either reject him totally or be dead which takes out his biggest reason for fighting in the first place. His friends at school will likely meet a similiar fate as Nannuly (I doubt ALL of them will die, but at the very least they will reject the man whos fighting their homeland).

I can also see the Black Knights turn on him for whatever reason.,,,,maybe because of some similiar action he made at the end of R1 or maybe theyre tired of being his pawns (maybe a combination of both). And he may even solve the mystery of his mothers death (although somehow I have a feeling that somehow he wont like the answer he gets for some reason or another). So basically Lelouch will have crushed his enemies but in the end it wont even matter anymore.

[Chiodos]

I'd say Lelouch die by a ass woopin' death like Light did in Death Note Manga/Movie. That'be also yay more satisfying...

OR....Nunally pulls the trigger at him, when his on top, having the world and shit, or as stated above post!

Anyways, this maybe has been mention before me but this show is almost to "something just happens" all the time...The Plot, side Plots just happen just like that. I may have the worst written argument here as I don't, for the moment, having nothing to backup on but maybe it's just me who ust got bored of this show.

[Kraco]

If it wasn't for C.C. I almost hope Lelouch would die saving Nunnally. However, since I hope C.C. and Lelouch would become some sort of a couple, I'm not sure what to expect. It would be just too sad for C.C. to be left alone as she's no doubt the loneliest character in this whole story.

s, this maybe has been mention before me but this show is almost to "something just happens" all the time...The Plot, side Plots just happen just like that. I may have the worst written argument here as I don't, for the moment, having nothing to backup on but maybe it's just me who ust got bored of this show.

Most series are like that. Some series, like Death Note, can't be like that most of the time because they have little else going for them than clever plots. However, Code Geass has huge amounts of interesting stuff composing it, so it can afford to have "things just happen". And I certainly haven't ever, not even once, been bored of this show! What an outrageous idea.

[Yukimura]

I experienced a strong feeling similar to what you described during this ep Chidos. While the action was indeed cool and held my attention when I went back and thought about it much of the ep, as well as ep 5, seemed stitched together without particularly good transitioning between events. It hasn't become a big deal to me yet but the more I notice it the more I'm going to think about it during episodes which will likely poison the experience.

Hopefully it will get better as the story moves forward.

[Deadfire]

Well no subs have come out yet but if you really want it...

[Chihiro]Code Geass R207[H264][HD]
[Chihiro]Code Geass R207[H264][SD]

mostly quality is rock bottom with colours are washed out, it's way too sharp and pixelated but if you want it...

If you are are looking for something better it is well worth waitting... for someone like eclipse

EDIT:


Eclipse CG R207 h264

Eclipse CG R207 XviD

Sweet

[David75]

Well no subs have come out yet but if you really want it...

[Chihiro]Code Geass R207[H264][HD]
[Chihiro]Code Geass R207[H264][SD]

mostly quality is rock bottom with colours are washed out, it's way too sharp and pixelated but if you want it...

If you are are looking for something better it is well worth waitting... for someone like eclipse

HD version for Ep 7 by Chihiro
http://www.mininova.org/get/1420286

HD by Eclipse:
http://www.mininova.org/get/1420474

HD by GG
http://www.mininova.org/get/1420431

SD by Chihiro
http://www.mininova.org/get/1419953

[Darknodin]

not gonna comment much on this since it seems that not many ppl watched it yet... the only thing i've gotta say is

wtf!?

[Deadfire]

HD by Eclipse:
http://www.mininova.org/get/1420474

Fixed



Eclipse CG R207 h264

Eclipse CG R207 XviD

[Yukimura]

Well at least there weren't as many examples of random shifts in temporality, but the transition from Lelouch happily playing with fireworks with his pals to standing on the beach giving orders was a bit weird.

I guess we should have expected this, however it's kind of lame that he was pretty much forced into this situation. I wonder what tricks he has up his sleeve to pull this off well.

[Kraco]

I guess we should have expected this, however it's kind of lame that he was pretty much forced into this situation.

He was forced into this situation if you mean forced to make a decision. That was clear already during the previous ep. I think he needed to make one sooner or later in any case. The choices pretty much were to forget it all, repeat the first season or come up with something new. Now that his opponent is the precious Nunnally, the something new was strenghtened as a choice, for sure.

Heh. It sure was a Zero trademark way of suddenly decimating the whole bloody fleet at once...

[Shinji Ikari]

But this way it works out perfectly, because the emperor is very much NOT happy with this conclusion, and peace will not happen just because Nunally wants it to happen. It's so ironical that she is saying that she is speaking for the empire's thoughts and wishes, and then have the emperors speech saying the complete opposite. Because now, the most likely path is that the empire will do something crazy despite Nunally's wishes, she will wake up out of her cuddly world and have no choice but to side with Zero who still is the only one who is right in this battle.

And then the battle (which is so important to thi series) will go on until Zero stands victorious.

Edit: It was really funny to hear the emperors speech, because what he is talking about is so beyond impossible that it's ridiculous and kind of cute, since you know directly that the person behind the story doesn't know much about social science and thought that through properly. And if that is the kind of world the emperor wants, what would truely happen is that someone in the audience would pick up a gun and shoot the emperor on the spot, and he would die with a smile on his face because his words would have gone through to the people.

[animus]

But this way it works out perfectly, because the emperor is very much NOT happy with this conclusion, and peace will not happen just because Nunally wants it to happen. It's so ironical that she is saying that she is speaking for the empire's thoughts and wishes, and then have the emperors speech saying the complete opposite. Because now, the most likely path is that the empire will do something crazy despite Nunally's wishes, she will wake up out of her cuddly world and have no choice but to side with Zero who still is the only one who is right in this battle.

And then the battle (which is so important to thi series) will go on until Zero stands victorious.

Edit: It was really funny to hear the emperors speech, because what he is talking about is so beyond impossible that it's ridiculous and kind of cute, since you know directly that the person behind the story doesn't know much about social science and thought that through properly. And if that is the kind of world the emperor wants, what would truely happen is that someone in the audience would pick up a gun and shoot the emperor on the spot, and he would die with a smile on his face because his words would have gone through to the people.

You talk about social science improbability in an anime with bipedal flying mechs and mind controlling powers?