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    Nah, I was smiling when they started up the background music, because I knew that Rolo would finally die. Still, I can't decide whether it was noble or naive of Rolo to believe that Lelouch hadn't meant all the things he said in his grief over Nunnally.

    While none of it was actually false (though I do not remember the second Japanese general being Geassed, just the first who committed seppuku in the tower) Schneizel, Cornelia and the rat bastard Canon came up with one hell of a way to spin the whole thing against Zero. Several of the Black Knights that Zero might have geassed were some of the most mundane things. Viletta still doesn't seem to be making the connection that Zero didn't geass her into her relationship with Ogi, that was all her. That's part of the double-edged sword nature of geass, can't prove that you didn't tell them to do something.

    At least Nina finally got a little of what's coming to her. Now she's just as bad as Zero and more importantly, she knows it.

    I'm less concerned about Kallen, and more about who is going to be taking care of C.C. I was a little surprised they left her behind. I suppose Kallen is the only one equipped to do so, since she's the Black Knight who became the closest to the old version, and moreover the only one who knows that C.C. is no longer the person she once was.

    Suzaku's laugh at the end was really creepy...

    I was hoping that Anya would catch sight of Zero and realize he was definitely the same Lelouch, but she never did. Maybe she will when knowledge of who Zero was becomes public.

    This series is reminding me more and more of King Lear, but with Lelouch somehow playing both Lear and Edgar, depending on how you view each plot twist.

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    this episode is sooooooooooo good
    and it will get even better.... oh man.. this is made of pure win!
    they even managed to make suzaku look cool and like a maniac in this ep... and rolo less of a fanatic nuisance...

    really... I can't believe how awesome this is... I had *never* expected such a drastic change.
    I hope Lelouch doesn't die in the end of this series... I want CC and him to live on happily ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    Still, I can't decide whether it was noble or naive of Rolo to believe that Lelouch hadn't meant all the things he said in his grief over Nunnally.
    I don't believe that's quite to the point. He had absolutely nothing else so he forced himself to believe. Moreover, I think he knew he would very likely die by attempting to save Lelouch from all those forces. That's also why Lelouch behaved like he did when Rolo finally died. This way Rolo could keep on believe in what had made his life worth living (or human like he said) until he died. If he had done nothing his fate most likely would have been much more miserable: No Lelouch pretending to be his brother and not even Britannia using him as a tool. He never was psychologically a very sound person so he would have probably died in some gutter anyway soon after if there had been nobody to take care of him.

    I wonder if the wars are starting to be over now. Judging by Lelouch's new interests it should get much more personal towards the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco

    I wonder if the wars are starting to be over now. Judging by Lelouch's new interests it should get much more personal towards the end.

    they traded Japan for Zero's life... if Schneizel didn't agree with that condition, then they wouldn't look for him now...so I guess the war is over.. at least for the Black Knights

    and Ogi must be somehow stupid...basically they didn't just betray Lelouch, but the whole Chinese Federation + their allies with this decision.. just for a actually pretty stupid and selfish wish... even if Japan gets liberated, Britannia could just show up again and take it again, who will hinder them? they are most likely the only world power left... that is if the Chinese Federation loses the war...

    Ah...the Chinese Federation... lets see what they think about the decision of the Black Knights...

    btw: I wish i would be able to watch the episodes which are left all at once... but I think I can't hold out long enough without my weekly Code Geass and CC dose,
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    This whole debacle will probably hit Kaguya the hardest. She's one of the leaders of the "United States" and the core of her military force just sided with the enemy to get back the only thing they cared about. It's a huge win for Schneizel, and Kaguya is left hanging. She can't accept the Japanese forces gaining Japan back because she'd be betraying the Chinese Federation and the rest of the countries. They'll also take the backbone of the military forces with them, crippling her negotiating position.

    I loved the peotic side of the episode title. The Black Knights are "betrayed" by Zero, while the Japanese side (led by the Ogi and Todo) betrays the "United States," and even Nina realizing she betrayed Euphemia's ideals.

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    Its breaking my " Fucking-O-Great O Meter" but now, it's just about Dad vs. "The Nothing to lose Lelouch"

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    Yeesh, the black knights are easily manipulated by everyone.

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    Feel kinda sad for Lelouch, he is truly alone now. No C.C., no Kallen, and even no Rolo.
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    So what's going to happen to C.C? She'll be too afraid to talk to anyone but Lelouch.

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    An actually decent episode for once. Could have done without the shitty music at the end. Finally Rolo is dead.Now just a couple more episodes until the death of everyo- I mean, the end of the series.

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    You guys realize that the real life equivalent of this is George Bush, or an american general, going to the Iranian military and saying :"You leader is lying to you! here are our proofs" and that it would change absolutely NOTHING in the short to medium term. Hell, who the hells accepts that they've been manipulated for so long in such a short amount of time? Diethart and Todo are the only ones who made any sense (Todo because he was hearing what he wanted to hear). The only way such a plan could work is by sowing dissension among the knights. it would have been slow but people would have had their doubts on zero, then he might have done something weird, or Todo would have convinced them over time.

    That aside, the episode was pretty cool. It set up what is to come. Now that Lelouch has truly lost his one weakness, he should be truly formidable!

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    I just hope Kallen would protect CC from the rest. She's the only one that knows CC lost her memories. I don't want to see the slave CC going back to the emperor..

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    Good episode as expected.
    After all the bitching Nina did about using FLEIA and now she regrets it. I hate her lol.
    Hopefully C.C. gets to Lelouch safely .

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    There were many things in R2 that I found were parallels with R1, and Rolo's death is one of them. I found his one to be a lot more comparible to Euphy's death than Shirley's. Both characters died believing in a lie, complete with dark eye-shadow. Many people disliked them, but still found their deaths touching.

    Like above, Lelouch has lost any objective reason to fight now, and I expect to see him off the World-Stage for a while, until Charle's plan is known by the world. Again, I see him dying dragging his father with him, saving the world simply as a side effect. C.C. narrating the ending would be fitting, though if she doesn't recover her memory, Suzaku will the next most likely.

    I honestly didn't expect Nina to take it so calmly. Her psychosis was short lived, and it was somehow a little unsatisfying to see her regret her deeds rather than being tormented by it.

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    The Black Knights were despicably stupid in this episode, but then again, that was their prime function since the beginning of this show.

    I hated Kallen for doubting Lelouch even for a moment when he told the most obvious lie ever in code geass history (with the Rollo one as a close second).

    I am still hoping for a bittersweet ending. If it ends in tragedy, it would be too sad and pointless. If Lelouch dies in the end, then all the show was about is his struggle, defeat, suffering, then finally death with nothing accomplished.

    I think C.C. has to regain her memories. She has had too little screen time for R2, and that does not make sense since she is one of the most popular female characters in anime fandom at present. With her being a liability like this, screen time possibilities for her are severely hampered.
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    All i have to say:

    WHAT AN ASSHOLE ARE YOU; OUGI!

    Sigh, this guy was a little wanna-be-terrorist, and wouldnt have achieved anything at all without Zero&#180;s help. And now he&#180;s acting all that highly....i cant sigh enough.

    Also, everyone abandoning Zero is just stupid. So what, he&#180;s a Britannian...so what, he has Geass.....still, he did anything to free Area 11. What a bunch of idiots. And there CANT even be forgiveness, because if it wasnt for Rolo, all the others, be it Karen, Ougi, Todou, and so on, would have let Lelouch killed. Basically, they murdered him.

    Now that Nunnally is dead (and i hope she&#180;s really dead), there are like 2 options to go, and i hope it&#180;s not the "now all i can do is take down my father"-option, but the "everyone betrayed me. if they want to take ME down, then i&#180;ll try everything to take down the whole world!"-crazy-option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    Now that Nunnally is dead (and i hope she´s really dead), there are like 2 options to go, and i hope it´s not the "now all i can do is take down my father"-option, but the "everyone betrayed me. if they want to take ME down, then i´ll try everything to take down the whole world!"-crazy-option.
    I rather hope it would be the first choice. If it's the latter, then basically the Black Knights were right to try to remove such a loose cannon. Despite some dirty deeds Lelouch was fighting for a better world for Nunnally to live in. A world where might does not make right. So, he would betray himself if he now started a war against the whole world simply because he lost the trust of his former allies.

    What comes to the BK their reaction surely was vastly over the top but on the other hand if you keep in mind they were originally people fighting against everything British in Japan and had experienced many times first hand the dirty plots and atrocities of the British rulers in Area 11 so it does make sense they would feel deeply betrayed by having been serving a British prince all this time. Plus they were stupid enough to listen to another British prince, which makes their reaction a bit more believable as well. Tools to the core.

    C.C.'s position now is indeed troublesome. She must have some role still to play or having kept her hanging around like this would make absolutely no sense. Who knows, maybe Lelouch will now go down fast hunting his father and at some crucial point C.C. will save him with words and intentions reflecting those of Lelouch's own when he made C.C. decide to keep living during the encounter with Charles.

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    you all know you want it to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    I rather hope it would be the first choice. If it's the latter, then basically the Black Knights were right to try to remove such a loose cannon. Despite some dirty deeds Lelouch was fighting for a better world for Nunnally to live in. A world where might does not make right. So, he would betray himself if he now started a war against the whole world simply because he lost the trust of his former allies.
    Well, the first choice would be typical thing to do.
    I guess you liked the ending of Death Note, too, eh? :P

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