Ah, Rollo is going to be Zeroīs downfall if he doesnt kill him off soon. I totally got a Death Note-feeling in this episode :-/
Ah, Rollo is going to be Zeroīs downfall if he doesnt kill him off soon. I totally got a Death Note-feeling in this episode :-/
A total win for Lelouch! And now with Rollo on his side... things are going to be more interesting.
<3 Tessa-chan! <3 Lucifus! ....chotto mate.
Rollo's going to be a fence sitter for episodes to come. He's just broken, and Zero's stolen his loyalty for now, but Suzaku's back, and he's not here to make friends. I'll be expecting him to swing back and forth as Suzaku and Lelouch mess with his mind.
The Chinese guy makes an interesting ally. He's teaming up with Zero, but only because he's able. As soon as he sees no profitability from him, he's going to ditch him or use him to his advantage. As C.C. said, he's good with politics.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
This is starting to build up a possibility that Suzaku (yuck, my tounge feels icky every time I say it) might also get a Geass. I mean if you look at it now it seems kinda impossible to beat the black knights. Rollo with his time freezing thing (I know it doesn't actually freeze time but I call it that) giving him super skills as a pilot, in reality even Suzaku wouldn't be able to match him. And then you have the mastermind Lelouch with the manipulation geass giving him super infiltration abilities, strategic smarts and whatnot.
So in a sense, the black knights have smarts and power now. This is SO awesome.
ah, what i forgot to ask:
why can Rollo use his Geass on Lelouch? Geass-user cant use their Geass on other Geass-users, thatīs been told in season one.
That was never established. Geass users can't use Geass on beings like C.C. and V.V. Mao and Lelouch used it on each other. Emperor Charles used it on Lelouch. Rollo used it on Zero.Originally Posted by MFauli
Edit: btw, Kallen's goodbye was badass.
Eclipse used both versions of her name this episode. Kallen at 15:27 and Karen at 20:36. I've yet to confirm this, perhaps they use a different spelling for the person speaking.
Edit2: Zero always pronounced it as Kallen in episode 2.
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If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Has it, really? I must have missed that, because the emperor has used his on Lelouch and Mao used his on Lelouch. The only thing I remember is that Geass won't work against the witches. Maybe if that is true it might be that only Lelouch's won't work because it destroys/alters a part of the brain and that somehow the ones using geass are protected against this kind of brain damage. However, I do think that Lelouch could use his geass against a geass user, since the emperor tells Suzaku to cover Lelouch's eye when he wants to use his geass against Lelouch.
I guess it was good that Cornelia was mentioned to be "lost". What could've stopped her from going back to Britannia? Planning some type of master plan against Lelouch? I couldn't recall but back when they were kids they weren't close right? Only Euphie, Lelouch and Nunnaly were close I 'd guess. So I guess there wouldn't be redemption if she decides to attack him, and he's alread Geass'd her.
You, sir, should go and die in a fire for just thinking of this as a possibility.
I kinda second that.
I see a third season here too ... After all, there is no Pwning Britannia anytime soon ... and to give closure, you either gotta kill the Double Geass Uber Emperor, Kill Zero or take over/destroy Britannia.
Then 3rd season.
What I did not understand (lack of sleep) was why the Chinese guy killed his 'superior' and then helped the Black Knights.
a third season will be determined by ratings alone thats just how this works.
Cornelia coming back wasn't something I was considering but its pretty clear she was only injured at the end of season 1 and not dead so its more then likely going to happen. Now after Lelouch used his Geass on her she said "Elder brother Schneizel moved her corpse away under the orders of his Excellency." Wasn't that the brother who was in charge of the Air ship with Euphie on it? If it was its possible Euphie will also be back in some capacity explaining there presence in the ending. If thats true then my assumption would be Cornelia is off looking after her sister.
Also I can confirm Eclipse used Kallen and Karen in episode 4. I can also say that both of those times by ear thats what it sounds like the people addressing her are saying. Its somewhat possible both are correct at different times like Buffalobiian was eluding too.
This is simple. He killed his superior because he was following the Black Knights blindly and he felt he betrayed China he seemed crazy talking about stuff like how Zero will bring him happyness. He then didn't kill the Black Knights in order to see if they would be useful to him in the future. If they passed the test he was going to use them for now until he felt they no longer had any use to him and his ambitions.
In other words his superior was being used by the Black Knight in order to be rewarded on a personal level. While he was using the Black Knights to benefit himself and China until they had no more use.
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Am I the only one thinking that the chinese guy is a bit overpowered? He has both brains and brawn, much like Lelouch and Suzaku packed into one. I just hope he is not AS good on both accounts.
Why does no one give notice to C.C.'s gun scene? That was so cute and moe in a very unfamiliar, violent and strange way.
EDIT: A Euphie resurrection would make me throw up, almost as much as Suzaku not dying.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Mon, 04-28-2008 at 11:36 AM.
Peace.
A theroy could be that Cornelia would be ressuructed as ....uuh...what was the name of the dude that made C.C "sacrifices" herself at the end of Season 1?
The lame theory could be that Cornela will be...like that.. and with an army of the same.
@shinta: I also did like the gun scene with C.C. Just fawking adorible in a wierd, wierd way. Kudos to that!
little soul your dreams are waitin'
crapping up...
hold them closely
never let go, never let go... <3
I don't know why, but for some reason I could see Cornelia suffering from mental failure.
For some reason she is extremely harsh in battle, going full out instead of thinking first, almost as she didn't even fear dying. Some kind of suicidial behaviour.
Then there's an idea of justice in her. She may have chosen a side, but she seems to have principles, strong at that.
If she learnt Lelouch is Zero and he has a Geass that transformed Euphemia in a killing monster, she may have had a hard time beleiving it and wasn't able to overcome it.
Or she's just another piece in the emperor's game. he hides this part of the game, with great surprise in mind.
Now that I think about it, anyone would care to explain why Viletta had lost her memories in S1, was it even explained? I don't remember seeing something explaining why she suddenly was amnesic.
Do you think she was part of the group Suzaku just entered? That would make sense, one out, one in. Would the emperor be the one to demote her?
Last edited by David75; Mon, 04-28-2008 at 03:25 PM.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Shirley shot her and she was left for dead at the docks when Ougi found her there. The memory loss just seems to have been a result of the trauma from that.
Also Villietta wasn't part of the Knight of Rounds, she was subordinate to Jeremiah (Orange-kun) in the Purists division. Her goal was to get a noble title that would be passed down to her offspring instead of just being a Knight which only applied to her.
I just watched all of season 1 over the span of a week, and caught up to this last episode in season 2 just now. Didn't have to wait for resolutions to ANY of the cliffhangers...Do you understand the bliss? can you?
For anyone who's played fft, do you notice how Lelouche's situation is much like Ramza, but he has Delita's persona, and Suzaku's situation is much like Delita's, but he has Ramza's persona? Ever tried to figure out what would happen if their pathes actually conflicted? I guess we'll get to see xD.
Viletta was a member of the Purists along with Orange-kun, not a member of the 12 knights, which I believe is new to this season, can't remember it being mentioned in season 1. Also, Viletta got shot, and it's not unreasonable to suspect she suffered amnesia from trauma to the head when she fell to the floor. I doubt Lelouche used geass on her, so I can't think of another explanation.
thanks for the clarification. I definately have troubles with my mempry (no Geass involved to my knowledge)
I'll wait silently for the next release.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Ah...you're still fun to debate with.
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Suzaku watched her die, he was right beside her the entire time. I know this is a Sunrise series (Gundam, Mai Hime/Otome) so there is the high possibility of people coming back, but I'd say it's fairly safe to say Euphie is dead. I can't see any purpose in bringing her back. Now...a nasty plan by Lelouch to deter and confuse the hell out of Suzaku, maybe, but that would only be a look-alike.
I'd say it's more likely Cornelia was initially away recuperating/hiding her injuries, and has now either switched to a slow, drawn out plot of revenge, or in not killing Zero herself to avenge Euphie, is now fairly broken.
There is also the third possibility. Who have we not seen since the series started? Nunnally. Swap one sheltered, frail sister (half-sister this time) for another. We know V.V. has her, and he's most likely allied with the Emperor. That's one way to calm a grief-stricken, hysterical daughter. Tell her that her long lost little sister, daughter of her greatest idol, wasn't dead after all.
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I think the Chinese guy's motives are more simple than that. Pure ambition. China seems to still be filled with the Han dynasty, utter bullshit middle management where the government is entirely run by bureaucrats with no actual prowess in anything. The Black Knights were just the perfect opportunity for him to strike. He mentioned that he wanted to (horrible paraphrasing): trim the dead weight and inefficiency out by killing the official. Now he has all the power that he can use effectively, instead of it being frivolously wasted.
I'm positive Lelouch didn't use his Geass on her for that for any number of reasons. First he didn't know who happened to see his face or who Shirley shot even after he found out. Ougi found her at the scene on his own with amnesia the next morning so there was ZERO time for him to use his Geass. Finally Lelouch used his Geass on her in episode 1 and can't use it on the same person twice.
I welcome debate and discussion
Agreed of course we also watched orange-kun drop dead in front of a truck and they brought him back to life.
As far as Cornelia would know Zero was already dead thats the public side of things and I imagine only Suzaku and the Emperor know the full truth of what happened possibly V.V. as well.
Possible and would certainly explain where Nunnally has been. The interesting question is if Cornelia knows who Zero really is. I mean he talked to her before using the Geass but its a question of how much she remembers Viletta at least had a foggy idea of what Zero looked like and being Cornelia knew him from her past she might have a clue who he really is.
I think its important to note how major all those shown in the ending are likely to be to this season. It seems very odd that Euphie is the only one that is presumeably dead at this point. Her inclusion makes me believe she will be a major part of this season as well. It just seems out of place enough that it could have meaning. I don't really support bringing her back her death was a major plot point in season one it just seems like something we should be ready for,
I can't say I know a lot about Chinese politics so I'll take your word for that one. I do think that the reason he felt the guy was such dead weight is the way he was talking about Zero being the bringer of happyness almost to the point it seemed like he was in love with Zero on a more personal level. He definitely took the opening he was given and ran with it but I don't think he would have made a move if he didn't feel that he could so easily explain his choice to those above him.
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