or as Russell Peters says, "White parents, you need to beat your kids."
or as Russell Peters says, "White parents, you need to beat your kids."
well if you have to hit your children then you have done something wrong before.Originally Posted by Board of Command
so... 9 out of 10 times, if you see a child and think "this kid deserves some beatings" its his/her parents fault. 8[
I agree with this. I know if I was caught wearing this crap when I was 11-now then my dad would probably kick my ass, blame all my friends, and send me to military school or something.
Even when I was 12 I was smart enough to know that it's pretty fucking stupid to act the way that many young kids act (trying to be cool in elementary-high school), aka getting drunk, being whores, dressing like whores, etc. And why did I know that? I guess it was because my parents raised me correctly.
There is this really stupid 14 year old girl on my bus who I hate because she is very loud, talking about all the black d*ck she gets, saying she is better than everyone else and thus gets to push her way in front of a line to be the first girl on a bus, yells at all the younger kids and hits on them, etc. When I was 14 I wasn't doing that shit, I very well knew the difference between being a normal mammal and being a self degrading whore, I was already writing essays on the internet, worrying about grades, my future etc. She pretty much gave all the people who weren't equally as whorish (or didn't worship her with glassy eyes) a hard time, including myself. (Which is quite a laugh, because I just made her look stupid, or ahem, accidentally hit her by reflex)
So anyway, yesterday morning she's talking about a baby being freaking due. YES PEOPLE, SHE'S 14 AND PREGNANT. And is she filled with remorse of being a pregnant sophomore in high school with no father in sight? NO! Did her dad or mom kick her ass? NO! Does she live every day in dread of having to take care of another human at such a young age? NO! If any of these things had happened, yes I know I am going to hell for saying this, but I would have been happy that her life is ruined now (she is excited about the baby kicking etc). But no, she doesn't even know what kind of mistake she made because her parents are fucking stupid and didn't raise her right, and apparently they don't care either. (She laughs on the phone with her mom about sexing minorities)
No amount of television or peer pressure can ruin you as much as having a dumb fucking parent who doesn't know how to raise or punish a child correctly IMO. All I can feel is sorry for the child for being born into such a terrible environment, and an urge to call CPS.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
If only this kinds of things happened to kids who have terrible parents... it's simply not the case, so stop with the generalizations that it's all the medias fault, that it's all the parents fault... at some point people will have to acknowledge that some kids are just naturaly fucked up.
Really? I think it is the parents responsibility if they are unable to prevent their 14 year old child from getting pregnant, at the very least. Some kids are just fucked up, I agree, but I don't think that that's a big enough matter to kilter off the fact that many people are the way they are because of how they were raised.
That doesn't change the fact that in this case, she is the result of her parents wrongdoing.
(Maybe if she spent more time talking on the phone with her mom about, say, college rather than sexing up men, she wouldn't be pregnant right now)
Last edited by Sapphire; Wed, 03-26-2008 at 05:51 PM.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
You would be wrong. It's simply not true in all cases... I personally know people from good families, great parents, and they still fuck up just like everyone else. It's simply not ALL of their fault... people can only do so much; the rest is putting faith on the kid you raised properly and pray that he ends up alright.
ignoring the fact that the start of the thread was made w\ a photoshopped picture of a 12 year old... it is the parents fault all the way.
about a month ago i was getting in my car and these 2 kids were playing near my car... the one kid was telling the other kid to do something.... then he said "don't make me check you''
now, these kids were probably 7 or 8 at the most... maybe 6.... its really sad. Our future generations have alot of cleaning up to do.
No need to use race here.
Well the parents should talk about sex with their kids but it's just such a huge taboo that both sides are way too embarassed to discuss it. The other thing is that the parents expect their kids to learn about sex in the real world and on tv and they do but they mostly get confusing and incomplete information.
Of course it's not true in all cases. Hell, I know a kid from a great family who faked his own suicide because of an ex-girlfriend. In the previous case I DO blame the parents, but that doesn't mean I blame the parents of the suicidal kid I knew. That's not what I was implying.
In the matter of people are the result of how they are raised, I wasn't trying to say that the parents are 100% responsible. Though they are a big part, I also believe it's the culture, their education, society, other people, etc. I think that every experience that people have factors into the people who they are today.
Now that doesn't change the fact that if you have parents that don't care to teach you what is right and wrong, or instill ANY logical values are not to blame. Because I think they are.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
No sensible parent thinks sex is a taboo topic or wants their kids to learn about it from other people or worse yet television. Since they have a kid in the first place its proof enough that the parents know about sex, the subject is probably only taboo from the perspective of the child which is where I think you're speaking from.
@ Sapphire. Really, how is that gonna work, you think you're parents can stop you from doing anything. As in the examples you gave, all you talked about is if you did this your parents would do that to you and this to you so they basically controlled your life based on the fear of the consequences of your actions. There are some kids out there who just don't care about the consequences and do whatever the hell they please so like I said before it isn't anyone else's fault other than the kids themselves.
That last little story you wrote sounded like two sets of people I know one would be my girlfriends family and despite growing up with them she didn't turn out anything like them or one of my best friends I went to highschool with when she was 15 her mom was 30 and her grandmother was 45 but she isn't anything like them and she certainly doesn't have any kids. So you guys could throw around blame all you want in the end it comes down to choices.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
No i can guarantee you that the parents don't want to have that conversation any more than the kids do but they still do it because they love them. The subject of sex is and will always be taboo for all ages.
No I'm not afraid of punishment because I wouldn't do stupid things for the sheer logic that they are probably stupid. In fact I live life rather independently, and cringe at the thought of my parents controlling my life. I am sort of sad that many people live a life of horrible choices with no fear of consequences, but I will just wait patiently as they get what is coming to them. In my opinion at the very least people should refrain from doing things for fear of punishment, if not for the simple knowledge that it is wrong.
Okay, but too bad if you are born surrounded by bad choices then you are left to fend for yourself, with little to no distinction as a child to what is right or what is wrong (I am not referring to who you just talked about, I am just saying in general)
In the end it's all a matter of opinion, so I'm not going to force anyone ot agree with me, it's just a matter of my opinion.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
I totally agree here. In early life, the closest things children interact with are family and media. Kids played with parents and watched TV all day. A lot of that lays the foundation for later thinking. Sure, when kids interact at school more and listen more and more to their friends instead of their parents, it has less and less effect, until the parent's influence is almost obsolete by early teens time. Question is, how much influence you can impart and maintain during those critical years. As Sapphire said, those kids will start off knowing what their parent's expectations are, and fear the consequence of deviating from it. Later on they find out as they watch their peers fall down in life one by one why their parents did that. They might not like the method. I didn't. But they will at least be thankful for the results it brought. When they reach parenthood, they'll find out there IS no other method pretty much.
It's hard to deny that some kids are inherently different. This is something inmate that goes beyond social influences such as family and peers. Different kids need different kinds of treatments, and that's up to the discretion of the parents. Some parents do it right, some do it wrong. It all depends on what the child is like on the inside, and how well the parents understand their children.
I think the government telling parents what they can't do is unjustified in this sense. I believe the end justifies the means in this situation.
The effects also should considering not just how they connect to the child but how themself are.
If their in their own little own world...
little soul your dreams are waitin'
crapping up...
hold them closely
never let go, never let go... <3
Well now you are presuming to know how the world should and shouldn't be.
Who are you to say what's right and wrong?
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Well he IS The Archangel. Kind of self-explanatory why he's so high and mighty.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Don't really have to be all that smart, just have a litle common sense and you'll realize that that kind of behavor just isn't right.
I think you misunderstood. Especially with the Iraq example, he's telling you not to project your opinion as "the way things should be". You yourself are not the judge of right and wrong.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
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