Most fucking reatrded justification ever. Seriously that made me lose respect on your opinion Abdula.Originally Posted by Abdula
Well it isn't just the parents fault, even at that young a age they are already teased for being different. And the all pre-adolescent bullshit really started because of all the shity advertising that you get in your TV these days. The whole situation is fucked up.
Wait...so the media can be blamed?
I mean, sure, media, parents, and actually, Abdula's kinda right. It's how the world is these days. Everyone just seems to accept it and just let their kids do what they need to do to fit in.
In that case lets just accept the iraq war and let them keep killing each other because while bush is in power there's nothing any of us can do about it.
Just because they say it's normal that doesn't make it right junior
Your opinion of me isn't really important since I think you're really naive but how is my justification retarded especially since I wasn't justifying anything. Its not right and it shouldn't but happening but it happens all the time thus me saying thats just how the world is isn't retarded at all. No one is arguing that its right.
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Blaming it on the media takes the responsibility away from the parents', which is wrong. It falls back on the parents to dictate what the child can see of and learn from the media. Kids are like sponges, they absorb stuff they are exposed to.
The world wouldn't be this way if people didn't keep copping out with bs excuses like "that's just how the world is".
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
true. But I said normal, not right. Because it's seen so much, people have learned to deal with it, I suppose.
And strangely enough, it is sorta the parents fault. I mean, WHO pays for their clothes?
o_o; My mom once told me every parent wants their kid to fit in and not be an outsider. So if the majority are whores...seriously. Then what?
See Ani there is your problem right there, being that parents can't control everything their kids are exposed to even if they tried which is why I think you blaming the parents in this circumstance based solely on a doctored pic is silly.
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Shrug, I said if this picture was real, then it's the parents' fault. No, parents can't control everything their kid is exposed to, but with the proper guidelines and influence on their kid, they won't have to.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Any parent that would let their sun/daughter leave the house in that should be junted down by child services.
I guess you've never seen a girl leave the house in one set of clothes but carry or wear another set of clothes for when she gets outside, it doesn't just happen on tv.
Why don't you get it they could have the proper guidelines and influences and still choose to do whatever they want. I don't know if you were such a tool as a kid but I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt because when I was growing up I had many many influences both good and bad as I'm sure everyone can attest to and btw my parents did an awesome job but I chose to do what I wanted and what I decided was acceptable and everyone has to make that choice.
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I see what Abdula's saying, in that you really can't control young people. It's like trying to get teenagers to stop having sex. It's just not gonna happen. You also have to account for the fact that the world is full of morons, and this kinda thing is unfortunately not unique. Obviously it's parents' responsibility to raise their children, but that really can only extend to the influence you have over your own family.
You can throw blame around and/or do your part to counterbalance things, but it can only go so far.
I really wonder how many parents think that, and to what extent. If I had children, I'd want them to be popular and have friends, but not at the expense of sacrificing their integrity. That will be something my future kids will have drilled into them by the time they're teenagers.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
If the kids see it on TV, they will emulate it. If the parents strictly say no then either one of three things will happen: one, the kid quietly accepts what their parents say but secretly yearns for it because all his/her friends have it, two, the kid whines so much that the parents purchase the clothes anyway, or three, the kid is so scared of their parents, like I was, that they give no thought about it and realize later that his/her parents were correct after all . It's really up to the parents to monitor the child and the kid making the correct decisions later in life. Just wearing the clothes doesn't make them slutty.
If society as a whole is promoting scantily clad behavior, then there isn't anything we can do to stop it. Out of all the kids, some are going to turn out to be, like Assassin said, porn stars.
As for high heels, I wouldn't know.
haha, my parents were like that too.
So in the end, it's entirely up to the parents, I suppose.
Yes, do that. Good parenting skills. =) It's weird what certain parents want for their kids and how far they go for it.I really wonder how many parents think that, and to what extent. If I had children, I'd want them to be popular and have friends, but not at the expense of sacrificing their integrity. That will be something my future kids will have drilled into them by the time they're teenagers.
Coincidentally, I was at H.E.B. last night, and I saw this woman who couldn't have been more than a few years older than me there with her baby and some other woman her age. The little girl was crying and pointing at a toy phone, and the hick mother said, in a particularly obnoxious voice, "What am I supposed to do?? She wants tha phone!!" and pouted at the other woman, who just didn't give a fuck, like an idiot. She ended up throwing the toy in the shopping cart while the little girl grasped for it angrily.
That poor girl will be probably be wearing makeup and a "BITCH" shirt when she's 8, and probably 11 when she loses her virginity. It's really all downhill after that.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Well yeah it starts at that age that's why parents have to actually do some parenting and smack their kids when they pull shit like that. Seriously, especially white parents are way too easy on their kids.
It's the f'ed up laws in this f'ed up country. Children have too many rights, and parents are scared to discipline their kids for fear of criminal charges and such. Kids were a lot better behaved when parents could use the belt on their asses, or the principal could use the paddle. Now it's called abuse and kids get timeout. Like that fixes the problem.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Why do you guys think a solution to societies problems would be so simple. What are you saying Ani that before 1974 Americans never had bad kids, because that just isn't true and physical violence doesn't solve a problem anymore than timeout or grounding someone does.
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Just grounding someone doesn't help everytime. Sometimes you do need more extreme methods that doesn't consist violence.
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I completely agree. Kids these days could use some hurting.
Truth...
And this also reminds me of this old maddox article:
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