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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    There is only one, they are just using it to refer to any sword that can't be blocked.
    Sasuke's sword can't be blocked because he runs chidori through it, not because its the sword of Kusanagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryGumball
    I'm sorta guessing that single line posts like this really aren't what forums were meant for.
    Sorry about that, don't bother though its between me and Archangel he understands. Speaking of him, I think the reason Naruto has changed was before then he still had his childish idea that if you try hard enough you can accomplish anything yet he tried his hardest to stop Sasuke but he couldn't stop him. So I think that deflated him.

    The other thing about Naruto's lack of passion is as he himself said Sasuke was his driving force he always tried his best and his hardest in order to compete with and surpass Sasuke the one who he says first acknowledged him,(I guess Iruka's efforts don't count). Even though Sasuke is still out there not having him physically present to taunt/inspire/drive Naruto also has really hurt him. Naruto basically bet all his cards on Sasuke and because Sasuke left he doesn't feel like he has a leg to stand on, which is why he doesn't even think he would be worthy of being hokage without Sasuke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Sasuke's sword can't be blocked because he runs chidori through it, not because its the sword of Kusanagi
    Didn't I clear up that little bit of confusion in my very next post because I'm sure I did.
    Last edited by Abdula; Sun, 03-23-2008 at 10:27 PM.
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    You're a manga reader right Abdula? Do we, anime viewers, know who madara uchiha is?

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    Yeah he is an Uchiha who knew the Kyuubi, who was apparently really really strong and Sasuke resembles him or atleast reminds the Kyuubi of him, thats about it.
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    Stronger than itachi ??? Holy shi*t !!

    Dam i hope we get to see some flashbacks of him or something ( lol flashbacks in shipuden that dont suck, wouldnt that be ironic )

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    Well I've only seen Itachi use about a total of six jutsus. Genjutsu, Tsukiyomi although its genjutsu its different, Amaterasu even though we didn't actually see him use it, one fire technique, one water technique and shadow clones. So its not like there isn't room for improvement, his immense strength is just inferred.
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    Well, one could make the point you only saw him use those jutsus because there wasn't any real need for him to use any others lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    All of those possibility's are wrong:

    - itachi's friend was too young and im not even sure he was na uchiha

    - [Omitted]

    I was actually thinking sasuke's father cause i didnt really get his name but he didn't look that powerfull for the nine tails to remember him, also sasuke said he didn't know who that was but the guy is so messed up i don't know if he even remebers his dads name
    One can only assume you were "responding" to me, the only reason I have to doubt it is because the inane blabbing you do about stuff I already said. It should be noted that your responses don't cover "all those of possibility's(sic)" The first person to achieve MS seems like a very real possibility.

    Thanks for spoiling yet trying to act like you didn't.

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    Couple things.

    Madara Uchiha. During the scene where it shows Itachi talking to Sasuke after killing their clan, Itachi mentioned that besides him, there was one other person with the Sharingan. I think he was talking about Madara. Beyond that, I don't know.

    Black sword. Black swords are really cliche in anime at this point. Unless the swords got some special reason to be black, or is magic, there's no reason to make it black.

    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33
    edit: ninjas wear their swords normal too, just re-read the wikipedia article :P
    the belt they use is called Obi..
    (both.. samura and ninja so i was wrong there too)
    I got news for ya. "real" ninjas didn't have a uniform. They were just a bunch of guys using modified farm equipment or weapons they stole or looted from dead people. Some wore swords on their backs, some on their hips. Some didn't use swords. It's a crapshoot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    Misconception, I'm very nice and helpful in general and if someone disagrees with me then I don't really care what my point or my opinion is as long as they can defend themselves its usually very telling about the person and not a bad way to get to know them either.
    The problem is that you are a manga reader arguing with people who aren't about their speculations on things. People are trying to figure out whats going to happen and your constantly handpicking the "facts" that have been revealed in the anime that are eventually going to lead to the conclusions you've read in the manga. Nobody gets to have any fun speculating because you always shut down the ones you know end up not being true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    I got news for ya. "real" ninjas didn't have a uniform. They were just a bunch of guys using modified farm equipment or weapons they stole or looted from dead people. Some wore swords on their backs, some on their hips. Some didn't use swords. It's a crapshoot.

    thats not really news for me because even the anime naruto shows that lol ^^

    they used many different weapons like a kama or crossbows and so on, but the katana or wakizashi was the most used weapon in japan however unlike samurais its said that a ninja did also use it as a tool and so on. in japan there is a nice museum about ninjas and they have lots of modified weapons there. some crazy shit. i heard that this gimmickry is similiar to the stuff they build in the Renaissance in europe
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    The problem is that you are a manga reader arguing with people who aren't about their speculations on things. People are trying to figure out whats going to happen and your constantly handpicking the "facts" that have been revealed in the anime that are eventually going to lead to the conclusions you've read in the manga. Nobody gets to have any fun speculating because you always shut down the ones you know end up not being true.
    See what I mean about misconceptions, that is just your assumption it isn't the truth, if you read more of my posts, though I won't really recommend that, or any of my posts outside of Naruto you'll see that is just the way I am. It has nothing to do with me reading the manga or trying to lead you in the right direction, if anything I would lead you in the wrong direction just for fun. You just assume that because I read the manga that everything I post is me prophesying which frankly is just stupid.

    @ Jessper: I think we were given name of the guy Kakashi got his sharingan from, either way he is supposed to be dead as Kakashi did tell Sasuke that everyone important to him had already been killed, anyway he still would've been too young. Itachi's best friend is supposed to be dead too seeing as Itachi has MS as proof, that he killed him. The person who was the first to use MS should qualify as it was implied that he should be really old and the fact that Sasuke doesn't know who he is would also suggest that he was around long before Sasuke's time or I'm sure Sasuke would've have known about an Uchiha strong enough for the Kyuubi to acknowledge him. Anyway they should all be dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula

    @ Jessper: I think we were given name of the guy Kakashi got his sharingan from, either way he is supposed to be dead as Kakashi did tell Sasuke that everyone important to him had already been killed, anyway he still would've been too young. Itachi's best friend is supposed to be dead too seeing as Itachi has MS as proof, that he killed him. The person who was the first to use MS should qualify as it was implied that he should be really old and the fact that Sasuke doesn't know who he is would also suggest that he was around long before Sasuke's time or I'm sure Sasuke would've have known about an Uchiha strong enough for the Kyuubi to acknowledge him. Anyway they should all be dead.
    Why do you think someone Kakashi's age would have been too young? Someone might be able to pull up the stats book (I forget if they even had ages in there though) but really he would have to be about 30 to have been involved with the Kyuubi fight.

    Also what does it matter if they are dead or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessper
    Thanks for spoiling yet trying to act like you didn't.
    ... i didn't spoil anything.

    Anyway as for madara uchiha you can't really make any conclusions about his age since the kyuubi is so dam old and i've checked btw, we dont know who he is yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessper
    Why do you think someone Kakashi's age would have been too young? Someone might be able to pull up the stats book (I forget if they even had ages in there though) but really he would have to be about 30 to have been involved with the Kyuubi fight.

    Also what does it matter if they are dead or not?
    Well during the first half of the series Kakashi was supposed to have been 26 subtract 12 years and I just don't see a 14 year old kid doing something like that. Besides if it were someone Kakashi's age not only should we have found out about it already but Sasuke should and would definitely have known who he was seeing as how close the clan and everything was back then. Its not impossible I just don't think its likely.

    Sorry for the confusion but whether they are dead or not was about what DarthEnder mentioned as to whether Madara is the third MS user Itachi was talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    ... i didn't spoil anything.
    Saying something is certainly wrong because you have knowledge from the manga is a spoiler. Think of it as a multiple choice question, there are two ways to solve it: Know the right answer or eliminate all the wrong answers.

    Well during the first half of the series Kakashi was supposed to have been 26
    Interesting I always figured he would have been at least a bit older than that.

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    The Archangel: You did in fact spoil (you even admitted you were spoiling in parentheses...) if this forum still had moderators who gave a shit I'd have reported you myself.

    Itachi's friend was named Shisui Uchiha not Madara Uchiha.

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    Omg... read the prevous posts i didnt spil anything, they asked if the guy who gave kakshi his sharingan was madara, i said it wasn't and didn't justify because if i did it WOULD be a spoiler. Pls read the previous posts and be a litle more careful when accusing someone in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    Well during the first half of the series Kakashi was supposed to have been 26 subtract 12 years and I just don't see a 14 year old kid doing something like that.
    Considering the stuff Naruto was doing when he was 12, getting in fights with Sannin and fighting other Jinchuriiki, I wouldn't put anything past anyone at any age in this series.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    Omg... read the prevous posts i didnt spil anything, [spoiler removed]
    Follow along with me now. I'm gonna go slow.

    That...is...a...spoiler.

    EDIT: Only now its not cause I removed it.
    Last edited by DarthEnderX; Mon, 03-24-2008 at 06:54 PM.

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    @The Archangel: You state quite clearly that a reasonable speculation is not correct with no basis for your claim that can be found in the anime. Then you attempt to assure readers that you're right even though you recognize there's no reason to doubt the speculation at this point in the anime. You even go so far as to say the word spoilers, which will of course make people think what you are saying is true, even though there's no reason to believe it is the case based on the information presented in the anime.

    I'm not sure what definition you're used to but the last I checked providing plot information from a manga that has not yet been revealed in an anime was a spoiler. You have provided information on what is not the case, and thus you have spoiled. By declaring as fact that "speculation X is wrong" you spoil the potential of speculation X being considered and discussed as a real possibility.

    @DarthEnder: I second your sentiments, however I feel like you'd have to be at least 18+ before the most badass evil demon in existence thinks you're even more terrible than he is. Unless of course Madara Uchiha wasn't actually a person at all but some other force of nature that took human form.
    Last edited by Yukimura; Mon, 03-24-2008 at 06:50 PM.

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    I don't really agree with what you're saying but ive got 20% till i get banned and im the new guy so i've erased the "spoiler" from my post so all u have to do is remove it from your quotes and we can call it a day.

    Changing the subject, i remeber that the sharingan had about 3 major abilities that were specified my zabuza earlier in the anime. Which ability did sasuke use to be able to see the kiuuby inside naruto and sealing it?

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