Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
Wow Yuki I'm beginning to wonder if you will ever understand me. What I meant about Naruto using more of the Kyuubi is that people not only want to see Naruto using more tails but some people seem like they want Naruto to completely abandon being a normal ninja and just rely on the Kyuubi for everything. See a shadow in the bushes bust out the Kyuubi and start smacking people, that kinda thing is what I was talking about not Naruto relying on the Kyuubi like he normally does.

Second thing is that I get that Naruto relies on the Kyuubi during life threatening situations. I get that, I accept that, thats what makes him "special" as Sasuke put it. This may seem contradictory to what I just said but I want Naruto to start to incorporate the Kyuubi more into his fighting style. At this point Naruto doesn't have any balance when it comes to his fighting style. Either its all Naruto or its all Kyuubi, what I mean is that I want him to not have to wait until its a life or death situation to have to rely on the Kyuubi or just when he is really angry. Its kinda hard to explain but to Naruto the Kyuubi is more of a berserker mode than part of his actual power. I want him to start using it as his own powerI want him to gain some control over it, something similar to how Sasuke has incorporated the curse seal into his fighting style. I know that is not entirely possible since the Kyuubi itself is a sentient being and not just a power up like the curse seal but I hope you get what I'm saying.

Kishi evolving the relationship between Naruto and the Kyuubi is exactly what I want. What we've seen from the beginning is Naruto gets himself into a dangerous or life threatening situation and then relies on the Kyuubi and goes into somewhat of frenzy and now that he can use more of the Kyuubi it just becomes a complete berserker mode. I want that to change, I don't want the Kyuubi gone I don't even think that is possible since the entire story itself revolves around the Kyuubi.

As far as the ninja comment goes I just mean I don't want to see any Naruto 4 tail berserker modes. I mean when Naruto transformed into 4 tails he traveled within the seal so essentially there was no one in control of his body since the seal is there to prevent the Kyuubi from taking over and Naruto going inside the seal meant that he couldn't control his body then either. If Naruto gains control over the Kyuubi's chakra so that if and when he does go four tails or more he will actually be cognizant of whats going on it would be great, would be even better if it was the other way around and the Kyuubi was in control.

I don't think any of that is expecting too much, in fact that seems to be the direction Kishi is going to take Naruto in so its all good.

Ok, see now I agree with you. I almost feel bad you had to defend yourself like that Abdula. lol Honestly. Anyway, I agree with you 100% on everything in bold that you'd said. Thats actually what I was looking for in terms of someone finally explaining this whole damn series in a nutshell and where that little storyline nugget with Kyuubi wouldshould actually go.

I also think it'd be best if Naruto learned more on controlling him. The vice versa (Kyuubi being in control) kind of freaks me out. I mean, he isn't good yet. We've only seen him want to kill and barely help Naruto in battle. That's not what Naruto needs. So personally (unless the good Kyuubi can be unlocked and controlled) I think that Naruto should always in be in control. One step further. I think he should become so close to Kyuubi, that they become almost partners in crime to protect Konoha and bring out the best in Naruto and the Fox chakra.


Heres my other take:
Once and while people get so caught up in their own almost flame like post arguments, that we forget to look at the most simple things. Heres what I mean. Just go back to the Bijuu capturing chapters All Naruto has to do (granted this is pretty big and almost obvious, but anyway) is become the same as the older Bijuu. We keep forgetting that he's really really young to have one inside of him. The girl who had the two-tailed cat demon was decent and she was even in probably in her late 20's. I mean the only example we have of a really strong one (pending Oro wasn't the 8 tailed one) was the 4 tailed Bijuu Kisame went after. It was said that it was one of Kisames most difficult battles. He had to face 4 types of elemental fusions from him. And this is Kisame folks. Not exactly an Akatsuki light weight. I heard somewhere that at only 30% he has the same amount of chakra as a 3 tailed Kyuubi Naruto. So the old man was the only one who mastered his Bijuu as far as we know. And yes I think he was stronger than Gaara was with Shukaku. Much stronger.

So I think we should only be talking about Naruto's Bijuu in the presence and remerbrance of other Bijuu's that have been caught. Yes I know Naruto has the most powerful one. But that gives more reason to why we should always compare and contrast.