Naruto Chapter 391

[DB_Hunter]

Itachi's eyes look weird. I've not seen him have eyes that look like that before.. when his sharingan switches off he has the same black eyes as Sasuke, yet now he has a dot in the middle... a new stage in the form of the Sharingan?

Also, its interesting to speculate that Oro may make a comeback. What if he comes back both through Sasuke and Kabuto? Would there then be two Oro's? Or would have to fuse the two Oro's to get the true Oro back?

And if Oro can come back from this, I don't see why Jiraiya can't. Sure he was badly injured and sank to the bottom of a lake, but I'm sure Kishi could come out with some shit that he used his frog like abilities to heal himself in the midst of water, maybe some frogs even arrived to help him?

[Strider]

Itachi is blind.

[Abdula]

Itachi's eyes look weird. I've not seen him have eyes that look like that before.. when his sharingan switches off he has the same black eyes as Sasuke, yet now he has a dot in the middle... a new stage in the form of the Sharingan?

I think you're just over analyzing things. I'm pretty sure we seen Itachi's and Sasuke's eyes drawn like that before with the pupil showing, usually done as a lighting effect.

Also, its interesting to speculate that Oro may make a comeback. What if he comes back both through Sasuke and Kabuto? Would there then be two Oro's? Or would have to fuse the two Oro's to get the true Oro back?

That sounds like a bad Inuyasha plot. As for Jiraiya sure Kishi could revive him if he chose to its not like he's not used to making up crazy excuses to bring characters back, Gaara, and it would be easy enough to bring Jiraiya back too. Just say that he went into the mouth of one of the toads he summoned and then the toad transported him to Tsunade and then spit him up, much like how he first entered the village but I don't think he will because I don't see Jiraiya serving any more purpose as far as the plot is concerned.

[Sidnne]

And if Oro can come back from this, I don't see why Jiraiya can't. Sure he was badly injured and sank to the bottom of a lake, but I'm sure Kishi could come out with some shit that he used his frog like abilities to heal himself in the midst of water, maybe some frogs even arrived to help him?

Jiraiya isn't coming back, he was given a send-off. When a character's death involves a flashback and a dramatic/inspirational speech, they are gone for good. Oro just kind of disappeared. Thus, its possible, and probable, that Oro will make a return.

[Uberbaka]

Chouji was given a great send-off... And.. well.. Kishi fucked it up by bringing him back from his ultimate suicide attack.

I desperately hope Jiraya stays dead.

[Tobydelaroka]

I don't care who wins I just hope next chapter one of these goofy eyed bastards lose because this has gone on to long with the genjutsu bullshit and each guy surviving the others strongest attacks they could've at least showed some of Kisame's fight I really hope its over next week.
Ohh btw..

Susano'o (須佐之男命in Shinto is the god of the sea and storms.)

In Japanese mythology, Susanoo is the brother of Amaterasu, the goddess of the sun, and of Tsukuyomi, the god of the moon. All three were spawned from Izanagi, when he washed his face clean of the pollutants of Yomi, the underworld. Amaterasu was born when Izanagi washed out his left eye, Tsukuyomi was born from the washing of the right eye, and Susanoo from the washing of the nose.

Source @ Wikipedia... (Copy Pasta)

[Abdula]

Most of us already know this, thanks anyway. I agree with you though this has gone on long enough its time for it to end and hopefully it will soon. From the way things stand I think next week most likely Itachi will use his final attack and then we'll have to wait another week to see if Sasuke survives and then Kishi will give us another week of them explaining everything and sometime to let things sink in. Hopefully one of them will die and maybe then we can see some Kisame v Suigetsu action.

[Konohamaru]

I don't get how Sasuke is in CS form when the last page text mentions he's out of chakra. Surely you need some chakra to use CS unless Oro will come through somehow.

[February]

I thought it was the other way around. Using the CS gives you Chakra while the side effects of using it is you losing yourself

[Idealistic]

The way I imagined it, was that the CS form came out subconsiously. Sasuke saw Itachi still alive and just snapped. Which makes me think either Oro is finally going to show us all that he's not dead yet, or his powers inside Sasuke just leaked out or something.

[Assertn]

Didn't oro say something way back during the sasuke vs yoroi prelims match about using up his chakra and being forced to open up the curse seal as a result?

[conquistaDan]

I think I remember that too. Briefly though.

Is anyone else thinking that not only is the last fight being shown will be the gang of 8 or whatever VS Tobi (madara), but also, show himself, beat a majority of them up without even trying, shock Kakashi, take off his mask in doing so, have Naruto unleash his 5th tail mode (for doing something he doesn't like, ie killing or hurting one of the 8), and have a huge conversation with Kakashi?

Reason being. I think that Madara is going to have to do something critical. Otherwise he wouldn't be there in front of them and wanting to fight them like that. He doesn't seem to have any real motive, but theres something going on there. Has to be. He probably doesn't want anything to do with the chuunin kids. I mean he wouldn't have to be there if there wasn't something important he was at Konoha for (I think he's there) or meeting the gang there with Kakashi.

I also think that somehow. He's going to have a sharingan cross fire with Kakashi. Just them two and no one else (advising of Kakashi for the kids to leave)

This could also be a way for kishi to try and have madara try and grab naruto himself. Like a, "fine, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself" kind of thing.

These are all just theories then again.

[DB_Hunter]

Interesting.... Kakashi with his left eyed sharingan vs Madara with his right eyed sharingan.

[conquistaDan]

@DB_Hunter:Out come....lots of swirling vortexs and gravity crap. With them holding their eyes in pain.

You know what. I would love it, if Madara somehow actually looked Naruto in the eyes, and began holding a conversation with Kyuubi that started to escalate into a fight somehow between an uncontrolled unconscious Naruto with like 9 tails or something. Whilst Madara trying to control it and have a conversation about what he did to him years ago taking control of him with his eyes. Now that! I would want to see.

[Konohamaru]

maybe madara is trying to get Kakashi's eye. It has achieved mangekyou after all, perhaps Madara only has one eternal Mangekyou. Itachi on the other hand is trying for both of Sasukes eyes.

[conquistaDan]

Possibly. But I don't think that Madara has just one eye that can control people, demons and animals. I would the that he'd need both and then thats it He'll be good to go for the rest of his life. All the amaterasu, tsukyoami, control bijuu he wants or whatever.

I also think that Zetsu has something else going on. I don't know what yet. But I think that he has something else going on behind the scenes with Madara or something special like that. I also think that kishi needs to explain more about him. I mean it's not like people are starting to lose interest in because he's got no real big fan base right now to begin with (I mean we don't even know if the guy can be called a ninja or has any fighting skills to call upon) Although he does know a lot about the main jutsus and can explain things very clearly and quickly. I also like the idea of there being "two" Zetsu's and the fact that he is talking to himself trying to explain things to his other half and is quite ingenious on Kishis part.


@AssertN: I have a question. What will you do if Itachi does die? Go out into the streets and yell from the rooftops in joy that you were right because of Kishi's little personal move that when the Akatsuki coats off they die?

I don't know I hope he lives and this last move is either really going to save him and/or he goes down with like one of the greatest Akatsuki moves in history. Bottom line. If he does die we can take hope in the fact that he was one of the best sharingan users and best Akatsuki around.

I actually wonder what will happen after. I mean, what will happen?

1) will his little brother take his body to their parents house back in Konoha and give him a proper burial?

2) will Madara send Zetsu in to "take care of the remains"?

3) would Sasuke not care about him and just leave him.

4) would Sasuke be honorable and bury him in a place where no one ever finds him because it was a brother V brother family thing?


Just some thoughts folks

[joker-kun]

If Kishi isn't lying it's been said this is the year of Sasuke, so i don't think Naruto will do anything huge, but I think his story will progress. It was also said that Naruto and Sakura have to grow up, so I think Tobi will hold the Konoha ninja's at bay until Pein arrives (since he's already said he's going for Naruto after Tobi ordered him to). Pein will try to capture Naruto, and in doing so will tell him he killed Jiraiya. naruto will either be stunned, or flip; either way he won't be doing anything. He will be escorted away by someone so that he isn't captured, Tsunade if she has talked to the frog already will leave a message for Kakashi or something, and go stop Pein and Tobi so Naruto can escape back to Konoha (probably unconscious). Tsunade will get killed. Forcing Sakura to grow up. How Konoha will keep the Akatsuki out... I don't know.

My theory^^^^^

[conquistaDan]

All good points. However I have some problems with your theories. I'll point them out to you what I mean


Agree with:
1) Tsuande will be killed and Sakura will grow up because of it. But that won't be the only important thing in Sakuras life to cause her to change. Sasukes death would only ruin the story and what Kishi has planned for the last gennin class in the future.. Itachi on the other hand, isn't important and can be replaced (he's in Uchiha, but there are other ones with red clouds and black coats on, get my drift?)

2) It is the year of Sasuke. You're right about that one.

3) The frog will reach konoha and talk to Tsunade.



Now for the disagree:


1) First, I don't think Madara will be holding the group at bay for Pein. The only reason I can see that happening is so Madara can leave with Kakashi to fight one on with him. Therefore letting him kill Kakashi and not causing someone constantly protecting Naruto from the Akatsuki's goal of acquiring Kyuubi. That way Madara can leave Pein to take care of the kids.

2) Pein will probably get a chance to tell Naruto that he killed Jiraiya. However, I don't think he won't do anything about it. I think he'll start to get the kyuubi going with almost one tail maybe two (anymore than that and Pein will have his shot and pretty much coming up with something since Naruto is out of his own control at that point) Pein will probably bust something fancy out and say, "hmm, so this is Kyuubi" or something to that extent. Then call or warn the crew that he's got new plans to tro lead the capture of him (he'll probably do this with his hologram jutsu +Zetsu) And Naruto won't just get pissed. He'll make a promise to Pein that not only won't he let him have what his papa so gratefully gave his life for. But he'll also us it to take him and the rest down. And then shock us all by also promising that he'll gain it's strength and use it to take down the Akatsuki with it.


Final Thoughts and theories:
I'm going to be the first one to break away from the mold and say that the Akatsuki are going to start a war with Konoha somehow and invade the village very soon here. Not only that but do it successfully. Very successfully. I mean come on Gai barely took out Kisame with 6 gates open! 6 GATES!! What makes you think that adding another jounin, or even half the villages jounin will do anything. Although if they don't have Itachi to fall back on. Thats one less sharingan user and member of the group they need.

Another thing I"m going to say is that I don't think Konoha will live this one down. At all. For there to be a Kage strong enough to come up with a plan to take down an Akatsuki gathered rampage is impossible nowadays. The only person able to pull that off is the 3rd. Maybe the 4th. Thats it.

Another. I think that theres going to be a huge long time skip soon coming up. It will end when Naruto masters Kyuubi and is probably one of the strongest in Konoha or any village for that matter. On the villain side. The Akatsuki will probably gain new members to try and get Naruto again and have a new plan of action. This is when the war will start. By the way Kakashi will be Hokage (as much as I think he's unqualified or ever will be) and Naruto will probably be his right hand man at this point.

Another. I think that the villages are going to help Naruto against being caught. This is really out there but I think to stop the Akatsuki some one from somewhere not necessarily Konoha will go all CNN on the countries and let them know whats up.

Another. Sasuke's going to go his own way and probably have an episode after killing his brother. The reason I think he'll stay away from Konoha is because after his lifelong goal is complete (big if we don't know yet) He'll probably want to figure somethings out. Like looking at himself and saying "what now?" This will be followed by another absence. Then him coming back. Possibly with a black coat on with red clouds. Or..the other side can happen. He can see what the Akatsuki did to his brother and help Naruto against them. The Akatsuki are the only thing left in Naruto that has to be taken care of. They're here till the end (Narutos Kagship or whatever) So kishis probably going to do everything he can to keep them in the series and get the plans they want (village domination), into full swing.

That last one is where everything in the series begins to come to end and levels itself out. Naruto gets the title he wants. Sasuke is his right hand man. And the Akatsuki are destroyed.

All just theories though folks.

[SilentSnake]

Another. Sasuke's going to go his own way and probably have an episode after killing his brother. The reason I think he'll stay away from Konoha is because after his lifelong goal is complete (big if we don't know yet) He'll probably want to figure somethings out. Like looking at himself and saying "what now?" This will be followed by another absence. Then him coming back. Possibly with a black coat on with red clouds. Or..the other side can happen. He can see what the Akatsuki did to his brother and help Naruto against them. The Akatsuki are the only thing left in Naruto that has to be taken care of. They're here till the end (Narutos Kagship or whatever) So kishis probably going to do everything he can to keep them in the series and get the plans they want (village domination), into full swing.[/B]

So basically this is the year of Sasuke v Itachi fight, unless he will not stay away from Konoha (why would it be a Sasuke year if it's going to end by the end of march or so?)

Some pretty long shot theories there, but we don't really know what Sasuke achieving his goal of killing Itachi can mean for the show itself.

As far as we can tell Kishi will not be very eager on finishing Naruto anytime soon, it's a gold mine after all and Kishi is doing whatever the higher-ups want (He didn't want to show all Suigetsu/Kisame fight for example, but was ordered to and he just agreed..).

On the other hand it makes me thinking... if it's Sasuke year, then why not make Naruto/Sakura year and after that -> rest of characters year/Kakashi year :P

with Akatsuki's dying out so fast we need more villains, that's for sure...

[chet_chetty]

More likely than not, the Itachi vs Sasuke fight will not last for the whole year. If this is the "Year of Sasuke" and this fight stretches out for at most a month or two longer, then Sasuke is going to have at least one more serious encounter.

It could happen any number of ways. His fight could end cleanly and he really does kill Itachi. Even though Sasuke winning this fight has been primed to be the resolving chapter for Sasuke in this series, it is by no mean certain that Kishi cant and wont involve Sasuke in future encounters to keep him the focal point (and grow even further) for rest of the year. He still has Oro to deal with because, you know, Oro is not dead and he still has Madara to deal with.

Also, let's not neglect the possibility that Itachi retreats only to return later. Or we're shown that he dies only for Kishi to come up with a twist to bring him back later in the year and there being a last and final battle with him and Sasuke.

Even though I am indifferent atm, most people would hate it if this last thing happened. My main point is the resolution of Sasuke's personal conflict in the series may include future [possibly plot enhancing] encounters IN ADDITION to a clean end in his fight against Itachi.