Wouldnt most of the activities that go on the in flaming pit be considered "Cyber-bullying"?
Wouldnt most of the activities that go on the in flaming pit be considered "Cyber-bullying"?
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
The flaming pit was made for people to "have fun, diss each other, and all the other shit we don't let you do outside."
Different actions carry a different meaning in different settings. In cyber bullying, you really mean it. It can be read by the public. You ain't kidding.
But the main thing is, it hurts.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Cyber-bullying is a good alternative to real life bullying because there is no threat of physical violence. It's also completely a battle of wits, and the mentally strong survive which is how the world should be.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
In short, no, they're not the same thing at all. Cyberbullying refers more to constant harassment. Archangel and Animeniax trading petty insults in the Flame Pit is not an example of that.Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber-b...llying_defined
The best example I can think of is the Megan Meier case, which I linked to earlier in this thread.
Edit: And the Xbox guy Sapphire linked to on page 4 .
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
To be honest I do feel like I'm bullying sometimes because I'm older and more experienced that some of these kids here. But they started it, so it's their own fault.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
That's a load of crap. Bullying is not restricted to physical violence. Some people may be physically weak and for them physical violence is bullying. Others may not be used to verbal bitching and to them that is bullying. Neither is acceptable and if that happened at Gotwoot then it should be stopped. I would say the mods should be the ones to do it but after being here for so long I know some of the mods take part in it themselves.
And to say the world should be about wits, well that's never going to happen. You use all assets you have, physical and mental, to get what you want.
Now you're arguing against Darwin, and you just can't win that argument. Cyber-bullying is easy enough to avoid, just log off or go elsewhere. Physical bullying not so much.
The thing about mental bullying is that you can lose but you'll live, then recuperate and join the fight again. Physical bullying causes physical and mental anguish, and leads to escalating violence.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
People can be douches over the internet where else they wouldn't dare in the real world due to anonymity. People shouldn't care about losing an internet argument because it just shows the person lacks confidence. Because at the end of the day, getting your ass kicked over the internet just really doesn't make any sense.
In the future you'll be able to punch someone through the internet. I could only hope.
Works both ways. You're not the most popular poster either.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I don't see how this has anything to do with my popularity. I can take hits. And I'm sure 90% of the trolls on the internet would cry after getting a bitch slap across their face.
Bullying is bullying, mental or physical. This is not about people's preferences on what way they would like to get bullied. Its wrong to pick on someone just because they are weaker than you in anyway.
And I pretty much agree with what animus said. Cyber bullying is pathetic becuase you are sitting far away from the person you are picking on, and is even more cowardly than normal.
Tell that to the animals and Darwin. There are alpha males and then there are the rest of the pack. In the information age, it is the thinkers who will rule, and cyberspace is just another medium in which to display their dominance.
I don't disagree that bullying is for shit, but at least with cyber-bullying the victim can log off or find some other forum or irc channel to visit. Real-life bullying is much tougher to deal with.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Cyber bullying isn't limited to forums though. It happens on sites like myspace and facebook etc, and there, the influence is big. It can even affect your normal life's interactions in those cases.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I agree with the statement in bold to an extent. I mean you can simply just log off and leave the forum or website if you so choose, but why should you have to? That is like saying that all the people at are getting bullied in really life should just leave their school, work, or just avoid going out all together to stay protected. Is that right? Is that fair?
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
Exactly my point. I think if you have that attitude you need to seriously think things through. Why should someone have to leave becuase someone else is being an arse? I think that person who is trying to exert their 'dominance' needs to be bitch slapped down as soon as their act becomes apparent because bullying is just a form of insecurity and its an issue the bully has to deal with. If he/she can't deal with it themselves then it needs to be made clear to them in no uncertain terms that you will not be taking out your issues on people you think are vulnerable.
if it's something like "internet-flaming" on forums and sites I agree with Animeniax
how do you say... "The cleverer give in."
Just quoting this for clarification. Cyber-bullying does not refer to occasionally flaming someone on internet forums. We actually do have rules on this forum against legitimate harassment.
Animeniax, whether you were being serious or not, you can stop patting yourself on the back for being an "Alpha Male". Calling someone out for being obnoxious, or a bad poster is not tantamount to "cyber-bullying". Repeated, and gratuitous harassment of that person, as well as making racial comments, or posting of their personal information, is.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Unless it's a site that requires payment, you get what you get from it, fight back, or you leave.
That tough guy act doesn't stop bullies in real life, and it won't work online either.
Shrug, wasn't talking about me. I don't think what goes on here counts as cyber-bullying. Problem is, it's all subjective. One man's joking around is another man's harassment.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Wow...I always love reading Gotwoot's opinions on things. They're always...well...intelligent as opposed to hndf834f3hf38fwe i haaate bulling!11
Anyway, I really like Dr DB's logic. ( and I don't think I could add anything to it that would sound awesome or intelligent)
In a sense, maybe...but at the same time, it's really different to cyber-bullying. Words always hurt more than physical pain. Scars heal but you'll always remember nasty things people say to you.Real-life bullying is much tougher to deal with.
Quoted for truth.And I'm sure 90% of the trolls on the internet would cry after getting a bitch slap across their face.
I find it sad that bullying is now even on the internet. Don't we all come here to just have fun? It's annoying that some idiots come there to boost their ego by harassing and bullying people. It's even more annoying that trolls come across so confrontational online, but offline, they're always people who avoid confrontation. I mean, what? Do you brag saying what a badass you are on the INTERNET? What's the point of that? Go work at bettering yourself offline.
Besides, the chances are, people who come on the internet are just like you. Low self-esteem bullying low self-esteem in an attempt to get higher self-esteem. That's just not...fair. At all.
This kind of thing really upsets me.It's just not fair. I've seen a lot of cyber-bullying on forums. Too much.
When I heard about cyber-bullying, I started being a LOT more nicer on the internet (more nicer than I normally was) and I try my best not to be mean (seriously) or anything. I don't want to ruin someone's internet experience because I feel like being an ass. Afterall, cruelty, like charity, begins at home. XD
I haven't seen any serious bullying here. Everything sounds like light humour to me...Anyway, I'm sure we'd tell if it was bullying. it'd be a lot more...constant?I don't think what goes on here counts as cyber-bullying. Problem is, it's all subjective. One man's joking around is another man's harassment.
/end of long post.
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