Astrology

[Assassin]

i think Death Boo Z was touched in the wrong place by tarot cards.

Anyway, in regards to astrology, i find it hard to believe that the movements of various balls of gas a bajillion miles away have an impact on my life. That being said, if you look at in a purely scientific way and take into consideration some of the modern theories about the nature of the universe, and the fact that we still dont know jack about how it really operates.....well then in that case it may be possible, although still very very far fetched.

From the point of view of newtonian physics, and every action having an equal and opposite reaction, you could say that predicting the future is possible ("but quantum mechanics blows that outta the water" - Samantha Carter, SG1 )

In short, i wont dismiss that its possible, but i also dont believe some old lady sitting in a tent can do it.

[saman]

Anyway, in regards to astrology, i find it hard to believe that the movements of various balls of gas a bajillion miles away have an impact on my life. That being said, if you look at in a purely scientific way and take into consideration some of the modern theories about the nature of the universe, and the fact that we still dont know jack about how it really operates.....well then in that case it may be possible, although still very very far fetched.

:OOO you totally stole that balls of gas thing from me! get out of my head!

("but quantum mechanics blows that outta the water" - Samantha Carter, SG1 )

ahaha such a geek

[masamuneehs]

lots of what I expected in this thread: people defending their convictions.

well, seriously, you'd have to be a dumb piece of shit if you think that everyone born in the same month is going to be more or less the same as each other. Knowing only the Zodiac signs, I rejected astrology as pure BS for a long time.

About two years ago, I met a girl who was really into astrology and all that hippy stuff, and she taught me a few things about it. She told me that, for example, horoscopes pertaining only to the main Zodiac sign are pretty much useless, but that if I did an entire horoscope using the date, time, and location, then you could draw up a star map for what it looked like when I was born. Surprisingly, there were a great deal of interesting tidbits in there that did ring true.

I use tarot cards when maybe once or twice a year, when I'm feeling confused or apprehensive. I use them as a way to find out how I really feel about certain things more than I use them to predict shit. If I "ask the deck a question", pull a card, I pay more attention to my reaction regarding the card's meaning and the question than the actual meaning of the card.

I think it's another tool you can learn to find out more about yourself. But if you're looking for guidance from the stars, you're probably just grasping at straws.

[Assertn]

Most forms of zodiacs are generic enough to suit different people, giving the perception of accuracy. Like many here, I don't believe in any of these, including chinese zodiacs, signs, feng shui, etc.

This is true....however a friend of mine was always pretty good at pulling a reverse-prediction with zodiacs: He could guess which zodiac you are based on your outward personality. He also observed that how well or how bad he gets along with someone strongly parallels the relationship between their corresponding zodiacs. Of course he usually comes to the conclusion as to whether or not he will get along with someone way before his suspicion of their zodiac is confirmed.

It's pretty strange...

[Junior]

(with absaloute no to connection to the hot pic junior posted)
Bullshit card is still on, so I get to be a jerk about the subject, I hope you weren't offended, but 'people who claim to be able to tell me how I should live my life' is one of the things that make my blood boil.

that wasn't a reading at all (simple or detailed). people are always nervous, are always faced with decisions, are always worried about the outcome, and are always effected by the past. it's the normal human condition. it's like saying: "you've been experincing some diffculties in your life, but this isn't the end of the road".
it's so vague that it fits anywhere in my life, or in my cat's life.
dabbleing in psychology (note: if you use an online spelling program, be sure to drop the Capital P ) shouldn't teach you to do a reading (meanning of cards, meanning of the order of draw, etc), it is possible to lie better and become a better salesman with it,though.

what I tried to say earlier, is that if I challenge a reader to tell me "facts" about me without direct connection, they'll have a 50% to be right on the easiest questions; and if I can't trust the cards on telling you my gender/age, how can I trust the cards to reveal (and suggest about) more complex issues? I'd be better off just talking to the 'reader' on my problems and drop the 'middleman' (the cards).

If someone goes to get a reading for fun, that's non of my buisness, but I'm entitled to have an opinion about it, and that's what I'm sharing with you (= point of the topic, what we think about astrology).

did I mention that graphology (the "science" of getting information based on hand writings) is also idioticy? and so is numbrology (information based of numbric values of the name/date of birth). becuase we can argue on those as well.

(haha thanks ^^; )

haha, you're actually getting it now! XD It's all about method and making the person believe you're a OMG REAL TAROT CARD READER. That's kinda what a skilled tarot reader is basically. I think they call it...the 'warm and cold reading' method, or something. Like that John Edward used to do. o_O

And yeah, you kinda got a point. *shrugs* I don't really think too much on it. Things like this shouldn't be taken too seriously. That just...causes problems. =/

Well...I don't know about Numerology, but graphology? I heard about that, but does it have any real...uh...credibility? o.o

Assertn, this friend of yours sounds amazing. D: I'm jealous.

[Death BOO Z]

Junior, if that's the point, why can't I go and SPEAK to this person, and have him analyize me the normal way? why do I need the middleman (middleman being the cards)? I didn't say that people aren't smart and emphatic and what not, I merely said that Tarot cards are crap.

Graphology, suprisingly, has a majorr acceptence and credibilty, a lot of job 'tests'/'auditions'
use it. It can tell you alot about a person, but if you hear someone saying that the writing hints perssonality traits ("this guy has a napoleon complex" or "this guy just broke up with his girlfriend"), then he's probably wanking your tail.

[Kraco]

Junior, if that's the point, why can't I go and SPEAK to this person, and have him analyize me the normal way? why do I need the middleman (middleman being the cards)? I didn't say that people aren't smart and emphatic and what not, I merely said that Tarot cards are crap.

When you go to a psychiatrist or psychologist I doubt they will approach you with a deck of cards. However, an intuitive layman may need something like the cards as a medium to be able to "analyse" you, especially and maybe essentially if the person believes in those cards. Such a person might be unable to consult you without the cards (or other medium) because of the lacking special training (in psychology or psychiatry or something else) or because it wouldn't exactly fill the same purpose.

If an average person happens to pay a tarot card reader for some probing, I doubt he/she is really doing (or should be doing) it instead of going to a psychiatrist or psychologist or some special consultant (bankruptcy, marriage crisis, whatever). So, it's also a matter of attitude on both sides.

Well, that's just how I see it. No doubt there are also people who see tarot cards with dead seriousness.